Same here re The Wire. Bill Cosby doc is really good, creepy as hell, but I think you would like it Marv. It's a historical in part on the genesis of stand up comedy
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Gotta get through the first 4 episodes or so. Super slow burn. 2nd season is jarring b/c you realize the story isn't real linear. But the payoffs are amazing.
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Kanuckistani wife fancies herself as a Brit once removed, so we watch all kinds of those shows. Yes, Line of Duty is a good one.
We've been watching Silent Witness on and off for a couple years now. In season 14 now, I believe, with lots more to go. Always a fun watch. Episodes are two parters of an hour each, so they're well developed without becoming ponderous, and are always resolved in the end.
My favorite show ever. I’ve seen it four times all the way through. I’ve never watched another series more than once. You learn an awful lot in that show, with different themes every season. I don’t think anything will ever stand up to it. The only thing that makes it aged is the technology and clothes. And so much phenomenal acting.
Fighting words. It’s so good it’s impossible to be overrated. Everything else is a distant second.
I'm getting scared. First we have Marvin getting into a pissing contest with some dipshit, and now you and Goat are at odds?
The End is Nigh?
It's a very good show, maybe top ten of modern TV shows. But it's nothing like what the fanboys say about it. Sopranos is better. Rome is better. Westworld is better. Deadwood is better. The Americans is better. BSG is better.
Please tell me BSG is not what I fear it is. If so, we agree for roughly season 1. After that I started hoping it would end before I forgot that I once liked it.
Two things:
1. I think you are probably displacing your hatred of the finale backwards into previous episodes and hating it more than you should as a whole.
2. I actually liked the finale. #SorryNotSorry.
Nope, I started getting disappointed early on, after Pegasus. It seemed for me that was the high water mark.
Yeah, I'm not there with you. I thought it stayed strong, especially Baltar's trial and Gaeta's mutiny.
Did the religious stuff turn you off? I ignored it at first sticking with the other parts of the story. Which made me hate the ending. Until the second time through once I understood the religious stuff was the story.
I'm surprised you didn't like it.. it was a lot of things, but part fighter pilot, part aircraft carrier show too. Probably the only TV show to do either and fairly well. Loved the Scar episode. Loved Baltar as a character.
It's not, technically better than the wire though. The Wire bores me after season 1. Not that it's bad, there's a difference in what someone likes and what is well made. It was well made, I just couldn't relate to the story or the characters ... so it bored me.
BSG is a Sci fi niche and a classic .. maybe not best shows ever made, but surely one of the best sci fi shows.
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The Opera House scene really pulled the entire series together. Cheesy and religious? Maybe. But it was epic. Baltar and Six were the heroes of the entire series.
"You know, I know about farming" brought me to tears.
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I was a fan of the original because I loved the idea of BSG. The original had the problem that humanity was near extinction but everyone was beautiful, clean, and accompanied by powerful theme music. But I still watched it. The new one had the feeling to me it wanted to tell black holes, "hold my beer" in going for darkness. For a while, I got past the majorly depressive aura, but it outlasted me. I think it was too far dark as much as the original wasn't dark enough.
It captured the post 9-11 fear and paranoia way too well. If someone could sit down and merge the two BSG series they probably would hit perfection. And while everyone is fallible, the show seemed to enjoy making everyone deeply flawed. So I appreciate no James Kirk, but at some point, some human (and eventually some cylon) needs to be more than just a hot mess.
The decision during Baltar's trial to reveal a gaggle of cylons was the Fonzie in midair moment for me. I was already not LOVING it but still enjoyed it, but after that, it became a slog. It was as if D&D kept going after Tyrion's "Bran the Broken" speech.
BSG would probably have been better suited to a more modern idea, fewer episodes. The first season was what, 13? It went to 20 after that. Maybe fewer, tighter episodes would have helped my opinion of it.
Peaky Blinders is absolutely great. I guarantee you will love it.
Boy, that's a tough one - Sopranos v. Peaky Blinders. There are fewer seasons of Peaky Blinders, so you could get through it quicker. The other advantage to PB is that you will learn a bit of history while watching it.
caught an episode of "The Gilded Age" on HBO the other day.
"searing" would be a huge understatement for the dialog, and a passive aggressive fest for sure.
have only caught one full episode, but it was quite good.
did i mention the "searing" thing?
ouch!
"searing" would be a huge understatement for the dialog, and a passive aggressive fest for sure.
have only caught one full episode, but it was quite good.
did i mention the "searing" thing?
ouch!
It's really a difficult pretzel twist to whine about The Wire fanboys and then post really anything about BSG, let alone the fluffing of the series you do...well, unless you're trying to be intentionally ironic.
It seems like you like your TV highly stylized. I agree about Deadwood. That's one of my favorite series of all time, but IMHO the rest of that list falls WAY short of The Wire...like not even in the conversation short. The Americans is a nice show, but that's like saying Sons of Anarchy or The Tudors is one of the best shows of the modern era.
Finished the first 1/2 of the final season of Ozark. Still disappointed. COVID really must have killed their momentum. Sure hope Better Call Saul doesn't suffer a similar fate.
It's been a minute since I watched the whole thing, but I think so. Ian McShane is amazing and there's not a ton to age about it since it isn't contemporary but doesn't rely on many visual effects.
Better Call Saul has really long gaps between seasons. I think this is the last season
At this point I'm gonna have to re watch the most recent season just to know wtf is going on.
Again, we're only 1/2 way through Season 4 with Ozark - but, if you're going to cap the number of episodes left to tell the story at 14, then you need to make sure you can tell a good story in 14 episodes. They should have cut some stuff out or let it fade into the background. The FBI stuff this season is nonsensical.
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I haven’t watched any BSG, but I concur with your comment about dark scripts, dialogue, and characters enhanced with music and lighting techniques. Except for the Hallmark channel, bright sunny outdoor scenes are rare.
There have always been characters who deal with baggage, but it never seemed as overwhelming as it is now. My stoker notices the same thing. Can’t tell if it is a reflection of the background of the story-tellers and script writers, or if they think this is what the audience wants to see. Either way it doesn’t appeal to me.
Just finished the current season of Cobra Kai. Campy for sure. And the characters have baggage. But I don’t consider it “dark” and there seems to be an emphasis on coping and changing.
West World? Rome? No, no , no. Sopranos is the only one even close. Americans good, but maybe outside my top ten.
You've worked hard to earn that credibility you have, so burn it at your own peril. 🤣
Really, all of these shows we are talking about are top-notch, objectively. So everything we're arguing about is purely subjective.
