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BradStevens said:
I've never read his books. Good?
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Very good so far, I am only 2 in. Smiley is the Bond antithesis. He is described as short, fat, ugly (but that is probably an exaggeration). The Brits ideal spy was someone who could sit next to you on a train and you would have no idea it wasn't some other bloke. Smiley fit that.

Le Carre created many terms that spy agencies picked up and used, mole being the most famous. Honeytrap being another.

For various reasons, his novels were considered more realistic than Bond. After the Spy That Came in from the Cold, Le Carre had to go out of his way to reassure his readers the novel was fiction.

I have really liked the series so far, but it is not Captain America dressed as an agent (how one might describe Bond).

And I loved No Time to Kill. I have two quibbles, I did not like the opening theme as much as many and an issue that would be a spoiler. But overall, A-.
 
Marvin the Martian said:
Very good so far, I am only 2 in. Smiley is the Bond antithesis. He is described as short, fat, ugly (but that is probably an exaggeration). The Brits ideal spy was someone who could sit next to you on a train and you would have no idea it wasn't some other bloke. Smiley fit that.

Le Carre created many terms that spy agencies picked up and used, mole being the most famous. Honeytrap being another.

For various reasons, his novels were considered more realistic than Bond. After the Spy That Came in from the Cold, Le Carre had to go out of his way to reassure his readers the novel was fiction.

I have really liked the series so far, but it is not Captain America dressed as an agent (how one might describe Bond).

And I loved No Time to Kill. I have two quibbles, I did not like the opening theme as much as many and an issue that would be a spoiler. But overall, A-.
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Sounds like I need to read these books.

Thanks for not spoiling No Time to Kill. Taking my son to see it in the theater soon, maybe tonight. It will be his first Bond in the theater. So far he's only seen the Craig version (which I think is my favorite).
 
Marvin the Martian said:
Yes.

I cannot believe he missed final. But beyond that, when he fell behind he panicked.
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Bingo. He had a couple of categories he didn't like, and he was facing opponents who were good on the buzzer timing for first-timers, but mostly he just lost his composure when he wasn't in the lead.

But, yeah, Poland? I thought that was an easy final.
 
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TheOriginalHappyGoat said:
Bingo. He had a couple of categories he didn't like, and he was facing opponents who were good on the buzzer timing for first-timers, but mostly he just lost his composure when he wasn't in the lead.

But, yeah, Poland? I thought that was an easy final.
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I wonder if he thought it was Austria but said Poland knowing the other two would say Austria and hope it was wrong. Metagaming. But Poland was too obviously wrong, there are no alps. Which was the problem he faced, there was only one possible answer.
 
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Marvin the Martian said:
I wonder if he thought it was Austria but said Poland knowing the other two would say Austria and hope it was wrong. Metagaming. But Poland was too obviously wrong, there are no alps. Which was the problem he faced, there was only one possible answer.
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The only geographically possible answers would be:

France: which the Allies obviously never split up
Switzerland: which was neutral
Italy: which was Hitler's ally
Austria: which we all know Hitler invaded and the allies occupied

It was the only possible answer.

I don't think he picked the wrong answer as a tactic. That's a dumb tactic. I do think his bet makes it clear that he understood his only hope was for the other two to get it wrong. But picking a wrong answer himself doesn't help that cause in anyway. I think he was just completely spent at that point, mentally.
 
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TV. Ya'll should go find Andy Griffith "Opie's Newspaper" and watch it. Season 5, Episode 26 if that helps.
 
TheOriginalHappyGoat said:
The only geographically possible answers would be:

France: which the Allies obviously never split up
Switzerland: which was neutral
Italy: which was Hitler's ally
Austria: which we all know Hitler invaded and the allies occupied

It was the only possible answer.

I don't think he picked the wrong answer as a tactic. That's a dumb tactic. I do think his bet makes it clear that he understood his only hope was for the other two to get it wrong. But picking a wrong answer himself doesn't help that cause in anyway. I think he was just completely spent at that point, mentally.
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I thought the answer was Rhineland. In my defense, I was watching it very early in the morning, right after I woke up (had it recorded), and was only vaguely paying attention. The fact that it was a nation that included both the Danube and the Alps truly left only one possible answer. The Danube does not flow through the other countries you mentioned (France, Switzerland, and Italy).
 
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I thought the answer was Rhineland. In my defense, I was watching it very early in the morning, right after I woke up (had it recorded), and was only vaguely paying attention. The fact that it was a nation that included both the Danube and the Alps truly left only one possible answer. The Danube does not flow through the other countries you mentioned (France, Switzerland, and Italy).
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Vader was Luke’s father
 
So has anyone watched the latest Dave Chappelle special that people are making such a fuss about? I'm going to have to now.
 
And Squid Games on Netflix.....anyone? It’s become quite a sensation. I’m still not sure what I thought about it, but I blasted through it. Very violent, so beware, but tense and intriguing, visually stimulating. Unlike most anything I’ve seen.
 
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And Squid Games on Netflix.....anyone? It’s become quite a sensation. I’m still not sure what I thought about it, but I blasted through it. Very violent, so beware, but tense and intriguing, visually stimulating. Unlike most anything I’ve seen.
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Lol I loved it
 
zeke4ahs said:
I did not see that ending coming. Not going to spoil it. Definitely will be another season.
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I had a feeling the ending would involve that character. Not exactly what I thought would happen though.
 
mcmurtry66 said:
I watched it. Dave's always entertaining but this wasn't as good as his past shows
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USA culture warriors have destroyed comedy and comity in the country by micro-scrutinizing every utterance and pronouncing it socially acceptable or cancellable. Can you refer to me a comedy movie in the last few years that is funny? Used to be we could make comedy that the targeted understood it to be crazy stuff..Last time you heard a blonde joke? last time you heard an ethnic origin joke? Making fun of our-selves was a strength of our culture …now we build walls where by we cannot possibly find any humor in our self images… including semi-retired,whiteboy grand fathers with many failures and many successes in the rear view mirror. So don’t take yourself so serious…life on this planet has existed for many centuries with natural outcomes.
 
Watched Dune this morning on HBO Max.
I'll be interested to see how it does with people who haven't read the books. As for me, I liked it, even though it was a little slow. It only skimmed the surface of all the political aspects of the story (Great Houses, Landsraad, the monopoly of the Guild Navigators, the Imperium, etc), but gave enough to provide context. Much more, and this would have to be about 10 movies. Obviously, this was only Part One. I thought the casting was pretty good, too.
It's obviously a huge budget film.
Has anyone seen when the next one will come out?
 
Bulk VanderHuge said:
Watched Dune this morning on HBO Max.
I'll be interested to see how it does with people who haven't read the books. As for me, I liked it, even though it was a little slow. It only skimmed the surface of all the political aspects of the story (Great Houses, Landsraad, the monopoly of the Guild Navigators, the Imperium, etc), but gave enough to provide context. Much more, and this would have to be about 10 movies. Obviously, this was only Part One. I thought the casting was pretty good, too.
It's obviously a huge budget film.
Has anyone seen when the next one will come out?
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I am going to it on Sunday. I have started Dune twice, made it to about page 75 twice, and decided that watching paint dry was a better use of time twice. Maybe the movie will give me the incentive to try a third time. The 1984 version sure didn't.

The next film hasn't started filming yet so I cannot imagine it being out before 2023, if then.
 
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Marvin the Martian said:
I am going to it on Sunday. I have started Dune twice, made it to about page 75 twice, and decided that watching paint dry was a better use of time twice. Maybe the movie will give me the incentive to try a third time. The 1984 version sure didn't.

The next film hasn't started filming yet so I cannot imagine it being out before 2023, if then.
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You gotta wonder if they'd have let David Lynch direct that had it been 1994 instead of 1984.

Haha
 
Marvin the Martian said:
I am going to it on Sunday. I have started Dune twice, made it to about page 75 twice, and decided that watching paint dry was a better use of time twice. Maybe the movie will give me the incentive to try a third time. The 1984 version sure didn't.

The next film hasn't started filming yet so I cannot imagine it being out before 2023, if then.
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I read the first 3 books in high school. (Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune) and thoroughly enjoyed them. They were kind of the sci-fi/political LOTR. Once the paint does dry, it's an interesting story that does not depend on lasers, spectacular fights, and green-skinned aliens to move the story along (although, there is all of that). The characters are compelling, and the study of the human race, in the distant future, after thinking machines (computers) had been outlawed, and how religious fervor filled the gaps, was fascinating to me.
That being said, Dune certainly is not everyone's cup of tea...and like I said, I'll be interested to see how that plays out with this movie franchise.
 
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Bulk VanderHuge said:
I read the first 3 books in high school. (Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune) and thoroughly enjoyed them. They were kind of the sci-fi/political LOTR. Once the paint does dry, it's an interesting story that does not depend on lasers, spectacular fights, and green-skinned aliens to move the story along (although, there is all of that). The characters are compelling, and the study of the human race, in the distant future, after thinking machines (computers) had been outlawed, was fascinating to me.
That being said, Dune certainly is not everyone's cup of tea...and like I said, I'll be interested to see how that plays out with this movie franchise.
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My daughter really wants to see it for polar opposite reasons from myself (Chalamet for her, Villeneuve for me).

I'm going to try and get into an IMAX theater for it though.
 
Marvin the Martian said:
I am going to it on Sunday. I have started Dune twice, made it to about page 75 twice, and decided that watching paint dry was a better use of time twice. Maybe the movie will give me the incentive to try a third time. The 1984 version sure didn't.

The next film hasn't started filming yet so I cannot imagine it being out before 2023, if then.
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Me too. I can count on one hand the number of books I never finished. Dune is one of those. Page 75 sounds about right.
 
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Bulk VanderHuge said:
I read the first 3 books in high school. (Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune) and thoroughly enjoyed them. They were kind of the sci-fi/political LOTR. Once the paint does dry, it's an interesting story that does not depend on lasers, spectacular fights, and green-skinned aliens to move the story along (although, there is all of that). The characters are compelling, and the study of the human race, in the distant future, after thinking machines (computers) had been outlawed, and how religious fervor filled the gaps, was fascinating to me.
That being said, Dune certainly is not everyone's cup of tea...and like I said, I'll be interested to see how that plays out with this movie franchise.
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It is funny, Lord of the Rings (books, not movies) is paint drying, and I love it. Same for Foundation. I am not sure why Dune struck me that way more.
 
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Watched first half of The Many Saints of Newark last night (Sopranos prequel). Good movie, and I can see why David Chase urged people to see it in a theater (I did not). The cinematography is spectacular. I really liked Ray Liotta (my doppelganger, according to some).
 
Bulk VanderHuge said:
Watched Dune this morning on HBO Max.
I'll be interested to see how it does with people who haven't read the books. As for me, I liked it, even though it was a little slow. It only skimmed the surface of all the political aspects of the story (Great Houses, Landsraad, the monopoly of the Guild Navigators, the Imperium, etc), but gave enough to provide context. Much more, and this would have to be about 10 movies. Obviously, this was only Part One. I thought the casting was pretty good, too.
It's obviously a huge budget film.
Has anyone seen when the next one will come out?
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I was pretty impressed with Dune. I do not think it is great, but pretty good and well worth seeing.
 
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Marvin the Martian said:
I was pretty impressed with Dune. I do not think it is great, but pretty good and well worth seeing.
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Theater or HBO? If theater, how much do you think the visuals and audio would translate to a run of the mill small screen?

Reviews I've seen say it's slow and ponderous, but the effects make up for it.
 
UncleMark said:
Theater or HBO? If theater, how much do you think the visuals and audio would translate to a run of the mill small screen?

Reviews I've seen say it's slow and ponderous, but the effects make up for it.
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I watched it at home.
Dune is a slow and ponderous book, so they got that right. But, slow and ponderous isn't always bad. Look at me.
 
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UncleMark said:
Theater or HBO? If theater, how much do you think the visuals and audio would translate to a run of the mill small screen?

Reviews I've seen say it's slow and ponderous, but the effects make up for it.
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It is slow, but I like slow if done well.
I saw it at the theater, and I think that helps as the visuals are excellent.
 
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Marvin the Martian said:
It is slow, but I like slow if done well.
I saw it at the theater, and I think that helps as the visuals are excellent.
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I think this is a must see in the theater. Between the visuals and the Hans Zimmer score, you want to be blown away with the size and power of a theater.

If you are a fan of the novel, I think you will really like this movie. If you have not read the book, I'm not sure if you will.
 
BradStevens said:
I think this is a must see in the theater. Between the visuals and the Hans Zimmer score, you want to be blown away with the size and power of a theater.

If you are a fan of the novel, I think you will really like this movie. If you have not read the book, I'm not sure if you will.
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I couldn't get through the book and really liked the movie. My wife liked it well enough.
 
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Marvin the Martian said:
I couldn't get through the book and really liked the movie. My wife liked it well enough.
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Do you think seeing the movie will now make you want to get through the book? The movie was pretty faithful to the book and if you get by the opening set up and into the Harkonen's move on the Atriedes, I think the pacing picks up.
 
BradStevens said:
Do you think seeing the movie will now make you want to get through the book? The movie was pretty faithful to the book and if you get by the opening set up and into the Harkonen's move on the Atriedes, I think the pacing picks up.
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I plan on starting again. It may be a month or so before I get to it. Both times before I quit at the gom jabber.
 
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