More about corrupt Federal Agencies...

[Mas-sa-suta]

The FBI recently very quietly 'updated' the 2022 violent crime statistics on their website.
Yes, the old data reflected a 2.1% decrease in violent crimes in the USA, and was touted by dead Joe in his 2024 SOTU address as representing the Biden-Harris administration's 'tough on crime' policy.
Only one problem. It was a big LIE!
The FBI's revision shows that somehow, the Bureau missed:

1,699 murders
7,780 rapes
33,000 robberies
37,000 aggravated assaults

The revised data shows the INCREASE in violent crimes
of about 4.5 %.

The Bureau has to this point refused to comment on the 6.6% change.

Can anything emanating from this corrupt-to-the-core enterprise be trusted?

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

The FBI recently very quietly 'updated' the 2022 violent crime statistics on their website.
Yes, the old data reflected a 2.1% decrease in violent crimes in the USA, and was touted by dead Joe in his 2024 SOTU address as representing the Biden-Harris administration's 'tough on crime' policy.
Only one problem. It was a big LIE!
The FBI's revision shows that somehow, the Bureau missed:

1,699 murders
7,780 rapes
33,000 robberies
37,000 aggravated assaults

The revised data shows the INCREASE in violent crimes
of about 4.5 %.

The Bureau has to this point refused to comment on the 6.6% change.

Can anything emanating from this corrupt-to-the-core enterprise be trusted?

I don't understand overlooking 1700 murders. Granted I'm no expert on FBI reporting procedure.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

I don't understand overlooking 1700 murders. Granted I'm no expert of FBI reporting procedure.

They won't talk about it.

 

[hoot1]

The FBI recently very quietly 'updated' the 2022 violent crime statistics on their website.
Yes, the old data reflected a 2.1% decrease in violent crimes in the USA, and was touted by dead Joe in his 2024 SOTU address as representing the Biden-Harris administration's 'tough on crime' policy.
Only one problem. It was a big LIE!
The FBI's revision shows that somehow, the Bureau missed:

1,699 murders
7,780 rapes
33,000 robberies
37,000 aggravated assaults

The revised data shows the INCREASE in violent crimes
of about 4.5 %.

The Bureau has to this point refused to comment on the 6.6% change.

Can anything emanating from this corrupt-to-the-core enterprise be trusted?

Mass, this whole crime reporting system used for decades can be labeled "garbage in, garbage out" if you believe Ramsey Clark's book Crime in America written back in the 1960s.

Read the book back in the day as Clark hit on a couple of my hot buttons at the time, civil rights and pacifism. Found the book fascinating because at the time I was a systems analyst for a large company and was sensitive to how statistics can be manipulated.

Mass, the controversial Clark can generally be described as a liberal. However, in reading about him think you will find some of his passions to fit your philosophy along with others at The Cooler not fond of either GWB or progressives.

Clark is definitely one of a kind.

 

[mattndallas]

"Honest mistake". 😄

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

Mass, this whole crime reporting system used for decades can be labeled "garbage in, garbage out" if you believe Ramsey Clark's book Crime in America written back in the 1960s.

Read the book back in the day as Clark hit on a couple of my hot buttons at the time, civil rights and pacifism. Found the book fascinating because at the time I was a systems analyst for a large company and was sensitive to how statistics can be manipulated.

Mass, the controversial Clark can generally be described as a liberal. However, in reading about him think you will find some of his passions to fit your philosophy along with others at The Cooler not fond of either GWB or progressives.

Clark is definitely one of a kind.

Mistakes on this scale are unprecedented. That’s what makes it noteworthy.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Mistakes on this scale are unprecedented. That’s what makes it noteworthy.

Confidence has been lost in gov since Covid

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Confidence has been lost in gov since Covid

Not only government.
Trust in medical professionals has fallen from roughly 70% in 2020 to a troubling 40% today.

Imagine, less than half of American healthcare consumers, which is everyone, trust their provider.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Not only government.
Trust in medical professionals has fallen from roughly 70% in 2020 to a troubling 40% today.

Imagine, less than half of American healthcare consumers, which is everyone, trust their provider.

i'm not surprised.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

"Honest mistake". 😄

I'm not a firm believer in 'coincidence '.

How coincidental is it that every reporting 'error' was favoring the corrupt Biden-Harris administration?

 

[larsIU]

Not only government.
Trust in medical professionals has fallen from roughly 70% in 2020 to a troubling 40% today.

Imagine, less than half of American healthcare consumers, which is everyone, trust their provider.

Why?

Because it's for profit?

Or do we just trust nothing anymore? We drink information these days from a fire hose and we're not very good at it. As an aside, I trust my doctor and health care providers. To not do so would introduce further insecurities and worries I just don't need. Do I know I'm but pawn in game of medicine? Yes, but what else can I do?

 

[mcmurtry66]

Why?

Because it's for profit?

Or do we just trust nothing anymore? We drink information these days from a fire hose and we're not very good at it. As an aside, I trust my doctor and health care providers. To not do so would introduce further insecurities and worries I just don't need. Do I know I'm but pawn in game of medicine? Yes, but what else can I do?

bureaucracy. the way things are done. i spend a ton of time in the hospital. a week every three months ish and i can tell you that i have very little faith and it's not in any actual doctor it's in the system, operations, etc. it's hard to explain

 

[snarlcakes]

I don't understand overlooking 1700 murders. Granted I'm no expert on FBI reporting procedure.

My best guess is Betty at the Bureau forgot her glasses and missed a zero or two when adding the numbers on her calculator.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Why?

Because it's for profit?

Or do we just trust nothing anymore? We drink information these days from a fire hose and we're not very good at it. As an aside, I trust my doctor and health care providers. To not do so would introduce further insecurities and worries I just don't need. Do I know I'm but pawn in game of medicine? Yes, but what else can I do?

In my community, a number of us have been building our own parallel society of faith-based providers. Since February of last year, our primary care is provided by a Wellness based collaborative practice consisting of an O.D., holding a Family Practice certificate, a Neurologist, a Family Practice MD, and a coordinator. It is fee for services, with no insurance accepted.
Yesterday, my wife and I were scheduled for a 5pm appointment. Through no fault of his own, our Doc was held up in a meeting and our appointment was canceled.
His offer to make it right?
We have a 10am appointment Saturday.
He is coming to our house!

I walked away from over 35 years at a Family Practice at IU Health
to go with people I trusted.

 

[larsIU]

In my community, a number of us have been building our own parallel society of faith-based providers. Since February of last year, our primary care is provided by a Wellness based collaborative practice consisting of an O.D., holding a Family Practice certificate, a Neurologist, a Family Practice MD, and a coordinator. It is fee for services, with no insurance accepted.
Yesterday, my wife and I were scheduled for a 5pm appointment. Through no fault of his own, our Doc was held up in a meeting and our appointment was canceled.
His offer to make it right?
We have a 10am appointment Saturday.
He is coming to our house!

I walked away from over 35 years at a Family Practice at IU Health
to go with people I trusted.

But that's not scalable Mas. However, I applaud your efforts.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

In my community, a number of us have been building our own parallel society of faith-based providers. Since February of last year, our primary care is provided by a Wellness based collaborative practice consisting of an O.D., holding a Family Practice certificate, a Neurologist, a Family Practice MD, and a coordinator. It is fee for services, with no insurance accepted.
Yesterday, my wife and I were scheduled for a 5pm appointment. Through no fault of his own, our Doc was held up in a meeting and our appointment was canceled.
His offer to make it right?
We have a 10am appointment Saturday.
He is coming to our house!

I walked away from over 35 years at a Family Practice at IU Health
to go with people I trusted.

That's nice. Seriously.

 

[snarlcakes]

But that's not scalable Mas. However, I applaud your efforts.

I beg to differ. We have a similar apparatus in Auburn.

 

[larsIU]

I beg to differ. We have a similar apparatus in Auburn.

Beg all you like, and it might work in a smaller footprint, but scaling this in a metro area sounds incredibly difficult.

Are you amenable to a Singapore type solution? Is something like that even viable in a country this big (population and georgraphy), diverse, and (quite frankly) fat?

 

[UncleMark]

As an aside, I trust my doctor and health care providers. To not do so would introduce further insecurities and worries I just don't need. Do I know I'm but pawn in game of medicine? Yes, but what else can I do?

bureaucracy. the way things are done. i spend a ton of time in the hospital. a week every three months ish and i can tell you that i have very little faith and it's not in any actual doctor it's in the system, operations, etc. it's hard to explain

I don't distrust mine, but I question everything and make them justify it to my satisfaction. I know full well the business model revolves around providing as much "care" as they can -- i.e. order up any test or scan or procedure they can think of that Humana will pay for. I don't believe my primary and urologist have ordered up anything totally unnecessary, but I have had to push back on them doing as many as they can as often as they can.

A little over a year ago my primary ordered up a colonoscopy. It was non-eventful; they took out one big ol' ugly pylop (I named it DANC) and gave me a clean bill of health. A couple weeks ago the proctologist's office called wanting to schedule another one. I said WTF, I just had one a year ago. She said oh yes, you need to have one done every year.

I took a pass on that.

 

[snarlcakes]

JoBeg all you like, and it might work in a smaller footprint, but scaling this in a metro area sounds incredibly difficult.

Are you amenable to a Singapore type solution? Is something like that even viable in a country this big (population and georgraphy), diverse, and (quite frankly) fat?

I was talking about Auburn, Indiana where the Dream Team retreat is being held. @Spartans9312 is the new MD after whyisiucursed was uninvited for his hurtful words. I’m pretty sure it would scale. Now so sure about outcomes.

 

[TomEric4756]

My best guess is Betty at the Bureau forgot her glasses and missed a zero or two when adding the numbers on her calculator.

Some Federal systems may be antiquated enough to still use calculators to collate data.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I don't distrust mine, but I question everything and make them justify it to my satisfaction. I know full well the business model revolves around providing as much "care" as they can -- i.e. order up any test or scan or procedure they can think of that Humana will pay for. I don't believe my primary and urologist have ordered up anything totally unnecessary, but I have had to push back on them doing as many as they can as often as they can.

A little over a year ago my primary ordered up a colonoscopy. It was non-eventful; they took out one big ol' ugly pylop (I named it DANC) and gave me a clean bill of health. A couple weeks ago the proctologist's office called wanting to schedule another one. I said WTF, I just had one a year ago. She said oh yes, you need to have one done every year.

I took a pass on that.

I was looking at a bill my ex wife got recently. Pregnancy test. She’d had a hysterectomy 🤪

 

[UncleMark]

I was looking at a bill my ex wife got recently. Pregnancy test. She’d had a hysterectomy 🤪

What was the copay?

 

[mcmurtry66]

What was the copay?

I’m not sure

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

I was talking about Auburn, Indiana where the Dream Team retreat is being held. @Spartans9312 is the new MD after whyisiucursed was uninvited for his hurtful words. I’m pretty sure it would scale. Now so sure about outcomes.

Yes, whyisiucursed was unceremoniously dumped for his hurty words. Last seen hitchhiking out of town muttering something about deplorables. We even took his fez.

 

[larsIU]

I don't distrust mine, but I question everything and make them justify it to my satisfaction. I know full well the business model revolves around providing as much "care" as they can -- i.e. order up any test or scan or procedure they can think of that Humana will pay for. I don't believe my primary and urologist have ordered up anything totally unnecessary, but I have had to push back on them doing as many as they can as often as they can.

A little over a year ago my primary ordered up a colonoscopy. It was non-eventful; they took out one big ol' ugly pylop (I named it DANC) and gave me a clean bill of health. A couple weeks ago the proctologist's office called wanting to schedule another one. I said WTF, I just had one a year ago. She said oh yes, you need to have one done every year.

I took a pass on that.

I have to have another colonoscopy this year in f/u from last year. Same thing, polyp. This year will determine if I have to go back yearly.

If it’s what I have to do so be it. Is that trust? Yes. Do I ask questions? Yes. Do I fight over doing a test? No. Would I if I did t have insurance? Yes.

What to do with all that?

 

[Spartans9312]

I was talking about Auburn, Indiana where the Dream Team retreat is being held. @Spartans9312 is the new MD after whyisiucursed was uninvited for his hurtful words. I’m pretty sure it would scale. Now so sure about outcomes.

I’m thinking the only drugs prescribed will be those Joe shows up with.

Its beer beer and more beer

 

[Stuffshot]

I was looking at a bill my ex wife got recently. Pregnancy test. She’d had a hysterectomy 🤪

I took my 80-year + mother to the hospital and the two female nurses started whispering their check list to her.

My sister started laughing. She was closer to the interrogators. I couldn't hear. They were asking my 80-year-old mother whether she thought she might be pregnant.

 

[UncleMark]

I have to have another colonoscopy this year in f/u from last year. Same thing, polyp. This year will determine if I have to go back yearly.

If it’s what I have to do so be it. Is that trust? Yes. Do I ask questions? Yes. Do I fight over doing a test? No. Would I if I did t have insurance? Yes.

What to do with all that?

IIUC, benign polyps are commonplace and nothing to to be excited about. If they clean them out and send you on your way, then there shouldn't be anything to worry about. But I could be wrong. I'll check with my primary next time I see her. I've got her trained to not provide more "care" than is absolutely necessary.

 

[Spartans9312]

IIUC, benign polyps are commonplace and nothing to to be excited about. If they clean them out and send you on your way, then there shouldn't be anything to worry about. But I could be wrong. I'll check with my primary next time I see her. I've got her trained to not provide more "care" than is absolutely necessary.

Anyone that tells you that you shouldn’t have the follow up colonoscopy is a quack

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

I don't distrust mine, but I question everything and make them justify it to my satisfaction. I know full well the business model revolves around providing as much "care" as they can -- i.e. order up any test or scan or procedure they can think of that Humana will pay for. I don't believe my primary and urologist have ordered up anything totally unnecessary, but I have had to push back on them doing as many as they can as often as they can.

A little over a year ago my primary ordered up a colonoscopy. It was non-eventful; they took out one big ol' ugly pylop (I named it DANC) and gave me a clean bill of health. A couple weeks ago the proctologist's office called wanting to schedule another one. I said WTF, I just had one a year ago. She said oh yes, you need to have one done every year.

I took a pass on that.

Generally, the interval is, should they remove any polyps , 1,3,5 and every 5 years afterwards.
My Mother died of metastatic colon cancer at 62.
Wake up call of the worst kind..

 

[mcmurtry66]

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Generally, the interval is, should they remove any polyps , 1,3,5 and every 5 years afterwards.
My Mother died of metastatic colon cancer at 62.
Wake up call of the worst kind..

close buddy did a few years ago. Late 40s. Not just the death but years of misery prior thereto.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

close buddy did a few years ago. Late 40s. Not just the death but years of misery prior thereto.

Sorry to hear that...
Facing down death is such a profound, life altering experience.
It can harden, or ruin you...

 

[hoot1]

I don't distrust mine, but I question everything and make them justify it to my satisfaction. I know full well the business model revolves around providing as much "care" as they can -- i.e. order up any test or scan or procedure they can think of that Humana will pay for. I don't believe my primary and urologist have ordered up anything totally unnecessary, but I have had to push back on them doing as many as they can as often as they can.

A little over a year ago my primary ordered up a colonoscopy. It was non-eventful; they took out one big ol' ugly pylop (I named it DANC) and gave me a clean bill of health. A couple weeks ago the proctologist's office called wanting to schedule another one. I said WTF, I just had one a year ago. She said oh yes, you need to have one done every year.

I took a pass on that.

Uncle, just curious.

Did a pathologist look at your ugly polyp?

Not all polyps are the same and pathologists who examine organs and tissue are called the doctor's doctor.

Getting a call from " someone" at the doctor's office is typical, but a lousy way to communicate in my view.

 

[UncleMark]

Uncle, just curious.

Did a pathologist look at your ugly polyp?

Not all polyps are the same and pathologists who examine organs and tissue are called the doctor's doctor.

Getting a call from " someone" at the doctor's office is typical, but a lousy way to communicate in my view.

I got no feedback whatsoever after the procedure a year ago other than a "you're fine, nothing to be concerned about" immediately afterwards. If there was something to be concerned with, I have to believe I would have been informed by the specialist or my primary.

I get they're covering their asses and want to "catch it early," whatever "it" may be. They keep ordering lung scans and keep coming up empty. They keep ordering MRIs and biopsies on my prostate, nothing to worry about (Gleason score of 6). They keep ordering colonoscopies, no signs of anything abnormal. At some point enough is enough. I'm going to be 70 years old soon. There was a time I thought that wouldn't be possible. I have to die of something eventually.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

I don't distrust mine, but I question everything and make them justify it to my satisfaction. I know full well the business model revolves around providing as much "care" as they can -- i.e. order up any test or scan or procedure they can think of that Humana will pay for. I don't believe my primary and urologist have ordered up anything totally unnecessary, but I have had to push back on them doing as many as they can as often as they can.

A little over a year ago my primary ordered up a colonoscopy. It was non-eventful; they took out one big ol' ugly pylop (I named it DANC) and gave me a clean bill of health. A couple weeks ago the proctologist's office called wanting to schedule another one. I said WTF, I just had one a year ago. She said oh yes, you need to have one done every year.

I took a pass on that.

Don't pass on it.