She single?
She's too old for McMurt, but I'm scouting second wives. I have a combine coming up, so . . .
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She's too old for McMurt, but I'm scouting second wives. I have a combine coming up, so . . .
Unlikely to stay that way for long. There are center left and center right parties, but a middle party whose principles are what? Compromise? Splitting the difference? You still need some sort sort of political ideology to stand on and coalesce behind.
Run.
Monstrously high maintenance.
Had a bad breakup with a lobbyist/lawyer in DC, with whom she bought a house. The immature ass missed his apartment close to the Hill, where he could roll out of bed and bike to work or to get coffee.
There’s a contract out.
Sounds like just the kind of woman who I will end up with.
I better let her age a little more so she's more desperate though.
So, there are now no rules?
If the law ignores the rules then rules no longer exist.
This is good to know.
Free Cray. Free Lucy.
They have had for some time. I'm just going to wreak havoc with my out of control hammer.
I suspect a Romney administration would have resulted in much the same effects as the second Obama administration.
Yep, a well rounded president or governor should have experiences outside of just serving in elected office.
Past presidents with such a background include some twenty five who were lawyers Other fields include military, haberdashery, peanut farming, movie acting, engineering, and real estate developing.
CoH, do you have any thoughts about why so many lawyers are attracted to politics ?
interesting question.
First of all, most of the politicians to whom you refer are not really lawyers. They are just people with a law degree. They never made a career of practicing law. Biden and Obama are examples.
But your larger point is important in that lawyers deal with the results of government and law making daily. They are familiar with the problems and probably think they can do it better.
For partly the same reasons as you posted, I think we generally have better Presidents if they either come from Congress or have served as governor. To me, it's important that a President accept that he's not king-of-the-world and needs to work with people to get things done when acting in a government role. It doesn't matter so much if Presidents are actually trained as lawyers or not.
FDR, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Bush Jr. were all Governors. As Governors (and as Presidents), they did not always get their way and had to adapt accordingly. Some of them were good and some were not so good.
The only recent Presidents I can think of who were not Governors or from Congress were Eisenhower and Trump. However, General Eisenhower previously dealt for at least 6-7 years with politics (think Roosevelt and Marshall) and getting along with competing interests of powerful pricks (think Patton, McArthur, Montgomery and Churchill), plus operating on a limited budget and limited supplies coming to him from 3500 miles away.
That leaves you-know-who, who never worked in government, who inherited a non-corporate family business that never required him to learn how to bargain with adverse opponents (like boards of directors or shareholders) and whose signature negotiating tactic is to threaten to walk away from the negotiation if he doesn't get his way.
His paramount campaign promise in 2016 was that, on his first day in office, he would demand he be presented with legislation to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare with something better.
Fact-checking Trump's 'repeal and replace' Obamacare timeline
The president claimed Friday that he hadn't promised such quick action.
He never came close, because he never accepted that Congress can't act that fast, that a President has no power to enact laws and that walking away from negotiation doesn't do a President any good.
Love him if you want to. But Trump doesn't know how to give you the government his supporters say they you want.
Obama wasn't a Governor. His resume was probably the thinnest of any President in my lifetime.For partly the same reasons as you posted, I think we generally have better Presidents if they either come from Congress or have served as governor. To me, it's important that a President accept that he's not king-of-the-world and needs to work with people to get things done when acting in a government role. It doesn't matter so much if Presidents are actually trained as lawyers or not.
FDR, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Bush Jr. were all Governors. As Governors (and as Presidents), they did not always get their way and had to adapt accordingly. Some of them were good and some were not so good.
The only recent Presidents I can think of who were not Governors or from Congress were Eisenhower and Trump. However, General Eisenhower previously dealt for at least 6-7 years with politics (think Roosevelt and Marshall) and getting along with competing interests of powerful pricks (think Patton, McArthur, Montgomery and Churchill), plus operating on a limited budget and limited supplies coming to him from 3500 miles away.
That leaves you-know-who, who never worked in government, who inherited a non-corporate family business that never required him to learn how to bargain with adverse opponents (like boards of directors or shareholders) and whose signature negotiating tactic is to threaten to walk away from the negotiation if he doesn't get his way.
His paramount campaign promise in 2016 was that, on his first day in office, he would demand he be presented with legislation to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare with something better.
Fact-checking Trump's 'repeal and replace' Obamacare timeline
The president claimed Friday that he hadn't promised such quick action.abcnews.go.com
He never came close, because he never accepted that Congress can't act that fast, that a President has no power to enact laws and that walking away from negotiation doesn't do a President any good.
Love him if you want to. But Trump doesn't know how to give you the government his supporters say they you want.
No one would be less relatable to every day Americans than a man who has spent 50 years in gov. No one. The less gov gets done and the more it leaves people alone the better. I’ll add no one is as gross having watch that romney doc as a lifelong politician. And finally no one has more fed gov experience than Biden and he’s been the worst president in my lifetimeFor partly the same reasons as you posted, I think we generally have better Presidents if they either come from Congress or have served as governor. To me, it's important that a President accept that he's not king-of-the-world and needs to work with people to get things done when acting in a government role. It doesn't matter so much if Presidents are actually trained as lawyers or not.
FDR, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Bush Jr. were all Governors. As Governors (and as Presidents), they did not always get their way and had to adapt accordingly. Some of them were good and some were not so good.
The only recent Presidents I can think of who were not Governors or from Congress were Eisenhower and Trump. However, General Eisenhower previously dealt for at least 6-7 years with politics (think Roosevelt and Marshall) and getting along with competing interests of powerful pricks (think Patton, McArthur, Montgomery and Churchill), plus operating on a limited budget and limited supplies coming to him from 3500 miles away.
That leaves you-know-who, who never worked in government, who inherited a non-corporate family business that never required him to learn how to bargain with adverse opponents (like boards of directors or shareholders) and whose signature negotiating tactic is to threaten to walk away from the negotiation if he doesn't get his way.
His paramount campaign promise in 2016 was that, on his first day in office, he would demand he be presented with legislation to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare with something better.
Fact-checking Trump's 'repeal and replace' Obamacare timeline
The president claimed Friday that he hadn't promised such quick action.
He never came close, because he never accepted that Congress can't act that fast, that a President has no power to enact laws and that walking away from negotiation doesn't do a President any good.
Love him if you want to. But Trump doesn't know how to give you the government his supporters say they you want.
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CoH, if you like presidential candidates who have accomplishments in addition to having been elected and appointed to office, you have to love Gavin Newsom
as per this Wiki link.According to the link, Newsom's accomplishments include creating a business venture called PlumpJack Associates with more than 700 employees
Newsom sold this share of his San Francisco businesses when he became mayor in 2004.
In terms of appointments Newsom was supervisor of the San Francisco Health Department
Elective offices include Mayor of San Francisco (2004–2011). Lieutenant governor of California (2011–2019). Governor of California (2019–present)
Because they know how to find the loop holes to make as much $$ from the tax payers as possible and then gift it to their kids?
Isn't he related to some DC politician?CoH, if you like presidential candidates who have accomplishments in addition to having been elected and appointed to office, you have to love Gavin Newsom
According to the link, Newsom's accomplishments include creating a business venture called PlumpJack Associates with more than 700 employees
Newsom sold this share of his San Francisco businesses when he became mayor in 2004.
In terms of appointments Newsom was supervisor of the San Francisco Health Department
Elective offices include Mayor of San Francisco (2004–2011). Lieutenant governor of California (2011–2019). Governor of California (2019–present)
Yep, according to my Wiki link, Newsom's Aunt was married to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law.
A few points:For partly the same reasons as you posted, I think we generally have better Presidents if they either come from Congress or have served as governor. To me, it's important that a President accept that he's not king-of-the-world and needs to work with people to get things done when acting in a government role. It doesn't matter so much if Presidents are actually trained as lawyers or not.
FDR, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Bush Jr. were all Governors. As Governors (and as Presidents), they did not always get their way and had to adapt accordingly. Some of them were good and some were not so good.
The only recent Presidents I can think of who were not Governors or from Congress were Eisenhower and Trump. However, General Eisenhower previously dealt for at least 6-7 years with politics (think Roosevelt and Marshall) and getting along with competing interests of powerful pricks (think Patton, McArthur, Montgomery and Churchill), plus operating on a limited budget and limited supplies coming to him from 3500 miles away.
That leaves you-know-who, who never worked in government, who inherited a non-corporate family business that never required him to learn how to bargain with adverse opponents (like boards of directors or shareholders) and whose signature negotiating tactic is to threaten to walk away from the negotiation if he doesn't get his way.
His paramount campaign promise in 2016 was that, on his first day in office, he would demand he be presented with legislation to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare with something better.
Fact-checking Trump's 'repeal and replace' Obamacare timeline
The president claimed Friday that he hadn't promised such quick action.
He never came close, because he never accepted that Congress can't act that fast, that a President has no power to enact laws and that walking away from negotiation doesn't do a President any good.
Love him if you want to. But Trump doesn't know how to give you the government his supporters say they you want.
The skills needed to be an effective legislator are not the skills needed to be an effective executive.
Walking away from negotiations or making the other side believe you will walk away is a very effective negotiating strategy. The more the other side wants you to give or do “X” the more leverage you have.
I think Trump knows how to make government better. He has no patience for government administrative bloat. One who has spent a career in government doesn’t see what is plain to see. We are all familiar with the bureaucratic burdens government places on all of us. The burdens government places on itself are worse. Trump began to slice and dice that and the swamp didn’t like it.
Art of the Deal son. I’m convinced a successful executive can be dropped in damn near any environment and thrive. It’s a skill set that I suspect just translates. You could drop that cocksucker Marcus lemonis in Biden’s chair and he’d get the gov working inside of a month.
Given two democrats with the same ideology, one with Obama’s resume and one with Newsom’s I’ll take Newsom any day.CoH, if you like presidential candidates who have accomplishments in addition to having been elected and appointed to office, you have to love Gavin Newsom
According to the link, Newsom's accomplishments include creating a business venture called PlumpJack Associates with more than 700 employees
Newsom sold this share of his San Francisco businesses when he became mayor in 2004.
In terms of appointments Newsom was supervisor of the San Francisco Health Department
Elective offices include Mayor of San Francisco (2004–2011). Lieutenant governor of California (2011–2019). Governor of California (2019–present)
M66, trust neither you or I would be excited to have Elon Musk as president in site of his success in several fields with owning and running companies such as PayPal, SpaceX, Tesla Motors, Neuralink, and Boring Company as per this link,
What about a Democrat with Newsom's resume vs. a Republican with Obama's?
MM 66, your willingness to elect a guy like Musk tells me electing a non traditional candidate such as Trump is no longer a passing fancy.
Can't agree here Murt Tsu..
Guy out of Finance in NJ isn't going to shine in West Texas Petro , or Valley Tech, or Ag..
Regional social/other barriers..
Actually, Obama was both a U.S. Senator and an Illinois State Senator before President. So, he was a President with prior experience in Congress, which does fit the pattern my post discussed.
From memory, Truman, Nixon, Kennedy, Johnson, Ford, Bush Sr. were all former members of Congress. I may have left out a recent President or two. I still believe Eisenhower and Trump are the only Presidents since 1950 who were never in Congress and never served as Governor either.
Government experience matters. I don't think business experience has much relevance to serving in public office. Things like charging people $100 to reserve a picnic table in a city park in the summer is offensive -- the purpose of government is not to make a profit and I have no respect for a candidate that says he intends to run his offce "like a business." Privatization of prisons and highways is also offensive.
People in a cube on the general schedule getting colas are serving. “Serving in public office” for politicians is serving themselves
The public has more faith in crooked as hell trump to run the economy than 50 year gov ee Biden. Any argument of benefit of years in gov is thrown right out the window with the patent ineptitude Biden has demonstrated on all fronts
Good question. All I can say is I voted fit Hickenlooper 3 times based upon his private sector experience.
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