Minneapolis post Floyd. Quite an indictment on

[mcmurtry66]

Progressive policies and their lingering consequences. Interesting read. Surprised to see that from cnn

Once nicknamed ‘Murderapolis,’ the city that became the center of the ‘Defund the Police’ movement is grappling with heightened violent crime

Marnette Gordon was doing laundry at home in Minneapolis one summer morning last year when a call came from her 36-year-old son.

www.yahoo.com

 

[BradStevens]

Progressive policies and their lingering consequences. Interesting read. Surprised to see that from cnn

Once nicknamed ‘Murderapolis,’ the city that became the center of the ‘Defund the Police’ movement is grappling with heightened violent crime

Marnette Gordon was doing laundry at home in Minneapolis one summer morning last year when a call came from her 36-year-old son.

www.yahoo.com

All of that was so obvious, so predictable.

 

[mcmurtry66]

All of that was so obvious, so predictable.

So obvious and so predictable. The consequences of kids out of school within that context was interesting to read as well

 

[T.M.P.]

Progressive policies and their lingering consequences. Interesting read. Surprised to see that from cnn

Once nicknamed ‘Murderapolis,’ the city that became the center of the ‘Defund the Police’ movement is grappling with heightened violent crime

Marnette Gordon was doing laundry at home in Minneapolis one summer morning last year when a call came from her 36-year-old son.

www.yahoo.com

I see it as police being petty and vindictive to certain communities.. and not doing the f**king job they were hired to do.

You are so completely FOS ...

 

[mcmurtry66]

I see it as police being petty and vindictive to certain communities.. and not doing the f**king job they were hired to do.

You are so completely FOS ...

You see it 🤣🤣🤣. Remember context is important. You post with the knowledge of a fifth grader. Your posts are of no value because you know nothing. You had no idea about soros’ funding. 990s. Policing. Yet you continue to post. You’re a vapid blinkard progressive who doesn’t even live in a city lmao - that’s your foundation dummy. What’s sad is that it doesn’t stop you.

Stick to monosyllabic grunts

 

[hoosboot]

Progressive policies and their lingering consequences. Interesting read. Surprised to see that from cnn

Once nicknamed ‘Murderapolis,’ the city that became the center of the ‘Defund the Police’ movement is grappling with heightened violent crime

Marnette Gordon was doing laundry at home in Minneapolis one summer morning last year when a call came from her 36-year-old son.

www.yahoo.com

Terrific article. All kinds of nuance in the conversation. Very few platitudes and it treats a complex subject thoughtfully.

So, of course, it's the kind of threadstarter that doesn't get much conversation. 🤨

 

[mcmurtry66]

Terrific article. All kinds of nuance in the conversation. Very few platitudes and it treats a complex subject thoughtfully.

So, of course, it's the kind of threadstarter that doesn't get much conversation. 🤨

good, thorough article with insight from actual residents. as a tangent i have noticed a trend from cnn of far more balanced reporting. you can read a headline and know immediately that it'll be a fox article. cnn was that way as well - not as much anymore.

 

[hoosboot]

good, thorough article with insight from actual residents. as a tangent i have noticed a trend from cnn of far more balanced reporting. you can read a headline and know immediately that it'll be a fox article. cnn was that way as well - not as much anymore.

Zucker and Licht were personality content people. Thompson is much more of a serious news guy. I'm not sure how Thompson is going to coexist with Zas, but initial indications suggest it is one positive development at WBD.

 

[stollcpa]

Progressive policies and their lingering consequences. Interesting read. Surprised to see that from cnn

Once nicknamed ‘Murderapolis,’ the city that became the center of the ‘Defund the Police’ movement is grappling with heightened violent crime

Marnette Gordon was doing laundry at home in Minneapolis one summer morning last year when a call came from her 36-year-old son.

www.yahoo.com

White progressives are a problem.

 

[ulrey]

I see it as police being petty and vindictive to certain communities.. and not doing the f**king job they were hired to do.

You are so completely FOS ...

Liar.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

good, thorough article with insight from actual residents. as a tangent i have noticed a trend from cnn of far more balanced reporting. you can read a headline and know immediately that it'll be a fox article. cnn was that way as well - not as much anymore.

Agree. I actually am starting to respect CNN as an actual news organization again. Imagine a loss of those who keep law and order leading to increased violent crime. In the words from Princess Bride…. Inconceivable

 

[VanPastorMan]

Progressive policies and their lingering consequences. Interesting read. Surprised to see that from cnn

Once nicknamed ‘Murderapolis,’ the city that became the center of the ‘Defund the Police’ movement is grappling with heightened violent crime

Marnette Gordon was doing laundry at home in Minneapolis one summer morning last year when a call came from her 36-year-old son.

www.yahoo.com

93 people getting murdered in a city of 425K is a lot. I did the math. That is 7.75 a month. As the article said the police pull out the criminals celebrate and then there is violence and anarchy. Very sad.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

I see it as police being petty and vindictive to certain communities.. and not doing the f**king job they were hired to do.

You are so completely FOS ...

Humans are going to human. If you berate and belittle someone for doing their job long enough, they’ll stop doing it.

Maybe you and your Marxist pals should stop treating people like shit and expecting them to be angels in return.

 

[mcmurtry66]

93 people getting murdered in a city of 425K is a lot. I did the math. That is 7.75 a month. As the article said the police pull out the criminals celebrate and then there is violence and anarchy. Very sad.

The city here was 200 with a population of 280,000. And that’s a tiny fraction compared to the shootings.

 

[jet812]

The city here was 200 with a population of 280,000. And that’s a tiny fraction compared to the shootings.

Reparations would make it go away though. 🙄

 

[BradStevens]

Reparations would make it go away though. 🙄

See Chicago politics thread.

 

[ulrey]

Not sure why you’d wanna live in that liberal shit hole.

 

[VanPastorMan]

Hey, I am glad Gloria Howard survived. The bullets went clean through. She was just trying to bring joy and encouragement to people. Those who shot the bullets should be round up.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Reparations would make it go away though. 🙄

I’m not risk averse at all jet. I wouldn’t mind having the gov say we are going to suspend X programs, and not fund X, Y, z, and we’re going to roll out one time fat reparations checks to those who qualify.

And see what happens. Maybe inflation will go crazy. Maybe theyll piss it away. Maybe they’ll start businesses and buy properties. I don’t know. But I don’t want progressives involved. I want smart people to oversee it and be sensible about its implementation.

And then never hear about it again. I’m always up for trying shit but if it fails admit it.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

93 people getting murdered in a city of 425K is a lot. I did the math. That is 7.75 a month. As the article said the police pull out the criminals celebrate and then there is violence and anarchy. Very sad.

It's all in certain pockets (e.g., North Minneapolis, Cedar Riverside). No different than Chicago or other cities.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

Not sure why you’d wanna live in that liberal shit hole.

It's like Denver. Start to move outside of the city and it becomes red fast.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

It's all in certain pockets (e.g., North Minneapolis, Cedar Riverside). No different than Chicago or other cities.

Walking down my tree lined streets every morning as the waves from the lake gently crest on the shore, I’m often met with the the thought “Chicago ain’t so bad”. But alas, it is. Don’t let the topography fool you.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Walking down my tree lined streets every morning as the waves from the lake gently crest on the shore, I’m often met with the the thought “Chicago ain’t so bad”. But alas, it is. Don’t let the topography fool you.

You’ve made all the right moves thus far young man. Your scenery will only get better as the years pass. Just keep your pecker in your pants. That’s the key.

 

[mrhighlife]

Like many other things the pendulum swung way too far. Looks like we are all course correcting. Violent crime rates are plummeting across the country. And we got a lot of reforms and updated training. The "defund the police" crowd the "shoulda just complied" crowd are usually equally stupid and naive. We should all respect law enforcement and understand their importance all while holding them accountable to do their job correctly and not abuse the position. Not rocket science.

What the data says about crime in the U.S.

Federal statistics show dramatic declines in U.S. violent and property crime rates since the early 1990s.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

I’m not risk averse at all jet. I wouldn’t mind having the gov say we are going to suspend X programs, and not fund X, Y, z, and we’re going to roll out one time fat reparations checks to those who qualify.

And see what happens. Maybe inflation will go crazy. Maybe theyll piss it away. Maybe they’ll start businesses and buy properties. I don’t know. But I don’t want progressives involved. I want smart people to oversee it and be sensible about its implementation.

And then never hear about it again. I’m always up for trying shit but if it fails admit it.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

Walking down my tree lined streets every morning as the waves from the lake gently crest on the shore, I’m often met with the the thought “Chicago ain’t so bad”. But alas, it is. Don’t let the topography fool you.

I spent several years thinking the same, although it wasn't as bad in those days. The difference is, I'm in the suburbs. Relatively insulated. Think of me as Winnetka.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Like many other things the pendulum swung way too far. Looks like we are all course correcting. Violent crime rates are plummeting across the country. And we got a lot of reforms and updated training. The "defund the police" crowd the "shoulda just complied" crowd are usually equally stupid and naive. We should all respect law enforcement and understand their importance all while holding them accountable to do their job correctly and not abuse the position. Not rocket science.

What the data says about crime in the U.S.

Federal statistics show dramatic declines in U.S. violent and property crime rates since the early 1990s.

www.pewresearch.org

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We are course correcting because people recognize how stupid progressives are. But have the progressives learned? Or will Biden and Harris go back to their old ways?

Also summer is here. Numbers will be back up and reporting has been a mess the last few years so I wouldn’t rely too much on them. Carjackings etc are up. But again reporting itself has become an issue.

Do t vote for progressives. Crime. Border. It’s pretty simple.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I know. I’ll try anything once and again wouldn’t be opposed to it once. Just to see

 

[mrhighlife]

We are course correcting because people recognize how stupid progressives are. But have the progressives learned? Or will Biden and Harris go back to their old ways?

Also summer is here. Numbers will be back up and reporting has been a mess the last few years so I wouldn’t rely too much on them. Carjackings etc are up. But again reporting itself has become an issue.

Do t vote for progressives. Crime. Border. It’s pretty simple.

Reporting is not an issue. Summer is always the high point for crime. Has been literally since the beginning of man. Doesn't change the year over year reductions.

Blind eye bootlickers are equally stupid and naive. Don't vote for them either.

 

[mrhighlife]

Walking down my tree lined streets every morning as the waves from the lake gently crest on the shore, I’m often met with the the thought “Chicago ain’t so bad”. But alas, it is. Don’t let the topography fool you.

How old are you? You think the city is bad now? You should have seen the 70s/80s/early 90s. 100 times worse than no. And the lake front was a polluted mess then too.

 

[Bowlmania]

Like many other things the pendulum swung way too far. Looks like we are all course correcting. Violent crime rates are plummeting across the country. And we got a lot of reforms and updated training. The "defund the police" crowd the "shoulda just complied" crowd are usually equally stupid and naive. We should all respect law enforcement and understand their importance all while holding them accountable to do their job correctly and not abuse the position. Not rocket science.

What the data says about crime in the U.S.

Federal statistics show dramatic declines in U.S. violent and property crime rates since the early 1990s.

www.pewresearch.org

View embedded media

Excellent.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Reporting is not an issue. Summer is always the high point for crime. Has been literally since the beginning of man. Doesn't change the year over year reductions.

Blind eye bootlickers are equally stupid and naive. Don't vote for them either.

Reporting is an issue. Don’t say things you don’t know. This is a top five dangerous city. Not the only one with reporting issues.

FBI publishes wrong crime numbers for St. Louis again amid technology woes for city police

The FBI report for the first quarter of 2023 contained artificially low totals for St. Louis after the city police department failed to submit crime data for more than three

www.stltoday.com

 

[mcmurtry66]

How old are you? You think the city is bad now? You should have seen the 70s/80s/early 90s. 100 times worse than no. And the lake front was a polluted mess then too.

So what. We have to go back that many years. The topic is the spike that attended defunding bail projects and the attacks on police.

 

[Bowlmania]

Reporting is not an issue. Summer is always the high point for crime. Has been literally since the beginning of man. Doesn't change the year over year reductions.

Blind eye bootlickers are equally stupid and naive. Don't vote for them either.

Violent Crime Is Falling Nationwide — Here’s How We Know

Preliminary FBI data, however imperfect, confirms a sharp downward trend in crime, undercutting attempts to blame criminal justice reform for pandemic-era spikes in violence.

www.brennancenter.org

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

How old are you? You think the city is bad now? You should have seen the 70s/80s/early 90s. 100 times worse than no. And the lake front was a polluted mess then too.

That’s simply untrue. Perhaps you’re mistaking Chicago with NYC. But the Daley’s didn’t abide nonsense. By what metric was Chicago worse off in the 70’s and 80’s?

Violent crime up 18%, arrests down 43% in Chicago over 10 years

The Illinois Policy Institute finds cases of violent crime increased by 11.5% in 2023, while violent crime arrest rates dropped

www.illinoispolicy.org

 

[mcmurtry66]

Violent Crime Is Falling Nationwide — Here’s How We Know

Preliminary FBI data, however imperfect, confirms a sharp downward trend in crime, undercutting attempts to blame criminal justice reform for pandemic-era spikes in violence.

www.brennancenter.org

I dont think you and @mrhighlife get it. Police were defunded cops attacked and crime hit decade high levels. Cities then began funding the police again and reverting back to pre progressive policy policing. This is an indictment on progressive policies. You don’t get to say hey crime is good now. It’s better now because people are beginning to understand voting for progressives is bad for policy. You don’t go back to supporting politicians who supported that idiocy. You’ll get those same results

This isn’t hard. You both would do well to read the cnn Minneapolis article. It’s excellent

Cities Reverse Defunding the Police Amid Rising Crime

With an increase in crime, new funds from the economic revival and federal stimulus dollars, many U.S. cities are restoring previous cuts to police departments or are proposing to spend even more.

www.wsj.com

 

[VanPastorMan]

Reporting is not an issue. Summer is always the high point for crime. Has been literally since the beginning of man. Doesn't change the year over year reductions.

Blind eye bootlickers are equally stupid and naive. Don't vote for them either.

So during the Ice Age crime went up when the temp was only 10 below? lol

 

[Bowlmania]

I dont think you and @mrhighlife get it. Police were defunded cops attacked and crime hit decade high levels. Cities then began funding the police again and reverting back to pre progressive policy policing. This is an indictment on progressive policies. You don’t get to say hey crime is good now. It’s better now because people are beginning to understand voting for progressives is bad for policy. You don’t go back to supporting politicians who supported that idiocy. You’ll get those same results

This isn’t hard. You both would do well to read the cnn Minneapolis article. It’s excellent

Cities Reverse Defunding the Police Amid Rising Crime

With an increase in crime, new funds from the economic revival and federal stimulus dollars, many U.S. cities are restoring previous cuts to police departments or are proposing to spend even more.

www.wsj.com

LIfe's analysis was spot on, particularly his observation that the pendulum had swung too far and there was a quick course correction.

Bottom line is that violent crime has been trending down for three years. And that's not just according to the FBI. It's also the finding of the BJS and other researchers. Stop perpetuating the Trump/MAGA bullshit talking point that the numbers are fake and that violent crime is actually up.

Trump's Bogus Attack on FBI Crime Statistics - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump said FBI data that show homicides and other violent crimes trending down are "fake numbers." They're not.

www.factcheck.org

 

[mcmurtry66]

LIfe's analysis was spot on, particularly his observation that the pendulum had swung too far and there was a quick course correction.

Bottom line is that violent crime has been trending down for three years. And that's not just according to the FBI. It's also the finding of the BJS and other researchers. Stop perpetuating the Trump/MAGA bullshit talking point that the numbers are fake and that violent crime is actually up.

Trump's Bogus Attack on FBI Crime Statistics - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump said FBI data that show homicides and other violent crimes trending down are "fake numbers." They're not.

www.factcheck.org

I haven’t said that so don’t mischaracterize what I said. Do you understand? What I said was that full reporting hasn’t occurred as there have been reporting problems. What’s more I agree there was a course correction AWAY from progressive policies backed by Harris and the progressives. So why on earth would we vote for them again? Why would anyone vote for progressive policies.

 

[mcmurtry66]

LIfe's analysis was spot on, particularly his observation that the pendulum had swung too far and there was a quick course correction.

Bottom line is that violent crime has been trending down for three years. And that's not just according to the FBI. It's also the finding of the BJS and other researchers. Stop perpetuating the Trump/MAGA bullshit talking point that the numbers are fake and that violent crime is actually up.

Trump's Bogus Attack on FBI Crime Statistics - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump said FBI data that show homicides and other violent crimes trending down are "fake numbers." They're not.

www.factcheck.org

There’s been reporting issues all over the country after the spike. You’re again grossly uninformed.

St. Louis police have crime data they won’t share. Researchers call it ‘embarrassing.’

Three years ago, the St. Louis police department abruptly turned off its public spigot of detailed geographic crime data. It’s left community groups and researchers in the lurch.

www.stltoday.com