but that is hypocritical.
I don't think you know what "hypocritical" means.
Inconsistent, perhaps, is the word you're looking for.
but that is hypocritical.
hopefully not watford. do you really want a guy seriously considering playing for will wade, a proven cheater? i don't. perhaps watford also wants to get paid
Tuition, room and board, books and supplies? Not being paid? Ask the student who is working part-time jobs and going to school who will end up with a huge student loan to repay if a full-ride athlete is not being paid. .Even small schools like Valpo and Evansville have probably been cheating since the 80’s. It’s very common and while I don’t agree with cheating, the players should get paid.
Kids have to work night and day if they even want to make their high school team now. If students spent as much time studying and working on their schoolwork as a college athlete does playing basketball they’d be able to go through college for free as well. Also, the players bring in so much money for our school. They get no return. It’s only fair.Tuition, room and board, books and supplies? Not being paid? Ask the student who is working part-time jobs and going to school who will end up with a huge student loan to repay if a full-ride athlete is not being paid. .
It’s not inconsistent at all. The players deserve to be paid, and don’t blame them if they do. I blame the program for cheating, however.I don't think you know what "hypocritical" means.
Inconsistent, perhaps, is the word you're looking for.
you don't think watford is considering playing for wade?
It’s not inconsistent at all. The players deserve to be paid, and don’t blame them if they do. I blame the program for cheating, however.
so you don't believe watford is considering lsu any longer?
Perhaps you have no idea about Watford. Sources he wants paid or shut up and stop spreading bullshit.
They get no return??? They get a schollie that many non-athletic students don't get. Room and tuition. Just because they have athletic talent. I'm happy they get those opportunities but they have a chance to get a degree without mounting loans for college.If they want to be one and dones for a stepping stone without any desire to go to classes,allow them to go to NBA directly from high school. It eliminates bagmen.Any coaches proven to help pay for players get a lifetime ban -no matter who they are!Kids have to work night and day if they even want to make their high school team now. If students spent as much time studying and working on their schoolwork as a college athlete does playing basketball they’d be able to go through college for free as well. Also, the players bring in so much money for our school. They get no return. It’s only fair.
then you don't believe the audio clip of the fbi wiretap of wade confirming his offer of a boatload of cash to get a player?It's a school in the list. Maybe he will be showcased in that system and it's local for him compared to most other schools. But to automatically assume he's on the take after what Christian Watford achieved with no rumors of him on the take, I find it hard to believe the father of the Watford family plays that kind of game.
And I dont know why I'm responding to you, I've already seen how stupid and salacious many of your comments are. I just have an extremely pissed off position when a family chose IU. And now his younger brother is on take??? With no facts, I just consider you're a bad representive of legacy families now and to act like shoe companies arent involved in at least the top 25 players is sticking your head in the sand. Put some substance behind your post with facts on who truly is corrupt and I may actually listen. Otherwise its an uninformed opinion and makes you look paranoid.
because it is against the rules and they know it. their parents also know itI dont want IU going that route either...as I said the punishment follows the coach and university....
The kid though...how can you blame them?
and that would be whom exactly? you say no need to speculate and you leave us to do just thatNo need for speculation. I know of a recruit that was offered six figures when Sampson was here. Seems unbelievable but his brother said “IU got out-bid”.
whit. lol. you should just stop saying wordsPerhaps your whit trumps your humor?
Or maybe your humor belies the forgiveness of your ignorance.
They get no return??? They get a schollie that many non-athletic students don't get. Room and tuition. Just because they have athletic talent. I'm happy they get those opportunities but they have a chance to get a degree without mounting loans for college.If they want to be one and dones for a stepping stone without any desire to go to classes,allow them to go to NBA directly from high school. It eliminates bagmen.Any coaches proven to help pay for players get a lifetime ban -no matter who they are!
and starting next year players will be allowed to go straight to the nba or g league. hopefully that will do a lot to clean up the recruiting mess. i'm surprised at the number of iu fans who openly are in favor of indiana illegally paying players to comeThey get no return??? They get a schollie that many non-athletic students don't get. Room and tuition. Just because they have athletic talent. I'm happy they get those opportunities but they have a chance to get a degree without mounting loans for college.If they want to be one and dones for a stepping stone without any desire to go to classes,allow them to go to NBA directly from high school. It eliminates bagmen.Any coaches proven to help pay for players get a lifetime ban -no matter who they are!
because it is against the rules and they know it. their parents also know it
They get no return??? They get a schollie that many non-athletic students don't get. Room and tuition. Just because they have athletic talent. I'm happy they get those opportunities but they have a chance to get a degree without mounting loans for college.If they want to be one and dones for a stepping stone without any desire to go to classes,allow them to go to NBA directly from high school. It eliminates bagmen.Any coaches proven to help pay for players get a lifetime ban -no matter who they are!
then you don't believe the audio clip of the fbi wiretap of wade confirming his offer of a boatload of cash to get a player?
i pin it on anybody who considers playing for duke, lsu, arizona, unc, et alAnd your agenda is to pin this on the Watford's. With no facts. Until you present ANY real information you are kist a bag of gas with limited idea of how the entire system works.
i never said that. that is no who wade was talking about. are you even following the investigation?Amd you believe that was Trendon. With again, no substance
i never said that. that is no who wade was talking about. are you even following the investigation?
Probably a lot of truth to this. Don’t forget Archie spent several years on Sean’s staff.and unfortunately and probably derailing Archie’s plans, is that his brother who gave him the blueprint was busted just as Archie took over. He is probably walking on eggshells and limited to his initial recruiting plans.
is he interested in playing for a proven cheater who can still be sent to prison for illegally paying players? then that is a reasonYes, and you have already said several times in this thread you believe trendon is toxic for no reason.
the player would be guilty of money laundering and tax evasion.It’s not inconsistent at all. The players deserve to be paid, and don’t blame them if they do. I blame the program for cheating, however.
is he interested in playing for a proven cheater who can still be sent to prison for illegally paying players? then that is a reason
Interesting post. I have not followed the FBI investigation at all. That said I’m not sure it would be either of these things. If the money isn’t coming from the school the player isn’t an employee so no tax implications. Further the player isn’t an EE of the guy giving him money. From the player’s perspective isn’t it just a gift? I’m sure it’s couched as same (I.e. not Income). And the player isn’t laundering money. Again I haven’t followed the investigation so maybe I’m missing where the dots are connected re evasion and/or laundering.the player would be guilty of money laundering and tax evasion.
not a lawyer and not certain but the coaches indicted and on trial are facing those charges. even if a gift the player would still be required to declare it, no?Interesting post. I have not followed the FBI investigation at all. That said I’m not sure it would be either of these things. If the money isn’t coming from the school the player isn’t an employee so no tax implications. Further the player isn’t an EE of the guy giving him money. From the player’s perspective isn’t it just a gift? I’m sure it’s couched as same (I.e. not Income). And the player isn’t laundering money. Again I haven’t followed the investigation so maybe I’m missing where the dots are connected re evasion and/or laundering.
It’s not inconsistent at all. The players deserve to be paid, and don’t blame them if they do. I blame the program for cheating, however.
It's inconsistent to say that it is right for the players to get paid, but wrong for the schools to pay them.
It is but I agree. Such is the relationship between these naive players and all these bloodsucking adults. Everyone is using everyone but it’s asymmetrical af.
This is the old apples and oranges comparison. Few that excel in the classroom actually get full rides. Others get huge student loan debt.Kids have to work night and day if they even want to make their high school team now. If students spent as much time studying and working on their schoolwork as a college athlete does playing basketball they’d be able to go through college for free as well. Also, the players bring in so much money for our school. They get no return. It’s only fair.
If they want a cheap tuition and easier scholarship go to IUPUI.This is the old apples and oranges comparison. Few that excel in the classroom actually get full rides. Others get huge student loan debt.
This argument presupposes the validity of exorbitant tuition costs. If public college was free how would you argue that players are getting what they deserve?They get no return??? They get a schollie that many non-athletic students don't get. Room and tuition. Just because they have athletic talent. I'm happy they get those opportunities but they have a chance to get a degree without mounting loans for college.If they want to be one and dones for a stepping stone without any desire to go to classes,allow them to go to NBA directly from high school. It eliminates bagmen.Any coaches proven to help pay for players get a lifetime ban -no matter who they are!
i never said that. that is no who wade was talking about. are you even following the investigation?
Tony Benford the top assistant at LSU just bailed for TCU. He definitelyYou must despise Keion Brooks.
I agree with all your statements. I just want to comment onI do agree with this and have always maintained that what you say here is the essence of amateur athletics.
What do they get?
They get a free education and a degree that allows opportunity for a job for the 98% of them that will never play professional sports.
AND, for those that do make the next level, the opportunity for life in something after their joints are torn to shreds and arthritic from the sport they love.
Believe it or not, many of these guys look back at college, as they grow older and wiser, and say that their biggest achievement wasn’t making it to the NFL or NBA.....it was being the first in their family to graduate college.
Unfortunately, the new era is all about instant success. Kids want paid and they want paid right now.
I’m not sure we ever go back to how it should be.
Brooks father's quote was, "Time to get greedy" Translation: time to get paid as fast as possible as a pro player. Brooks and dad are only focused now on getting paid. Not on winning games as a team in a long term college careeer. I don't wish Kentucky good luck as long as Calipari is there.Tony Benford the top assistant at LSU just bailed for TCU. He definitely
knows that the program is in big trouble. LSU is mentioned on Watford's
list but he knows better to go there.
I love Keion ?Brooks, he passed on IU but I wish him the very best.