Legal challenges to Trump funding freezes--will the elimination of Chevron deference limit Trump's goal?

[HurryingHoosiers]

Well, to answer your question, I didn't. I honestly don't read many of your posts.

But, now that I've looked back through the exchange, what he asked you to "bring data" about was your rhetorical question about recalling Clinton, Bush or Obama doing something similar to Trump regarding federal employment. That wouldn't be a matter of opinion, it would be a matter of fact. You were making a factual assertion by posing a rhetorical question -- the assertion was that those previous presidents didn't do this, at least to this level.

Sorry, next time I will says it is my opinion that the previous presidents didn't do this to this level. Most people would assume that is implied.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

Sorry, next time I will says it is my opinion that the previous presidents didn't do this to this level. Most people would assume that is implied.

You mean to say that it's a guess -- not an opinion. Because whether or not they actually did would be a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion.

Anyway....carry on.

 

[Cortez88]

Small government conservative?

I’ve always valued efficiency and effectiveness over just making government smaller. Sometimes they go hand in hand. Other times increasing headcount of raising salaries to attract top level talent is necessary to provide top level service. That should be the goal.

 

[jet812]

There are always improvements to be made, but very unlike a business, in the federal government, only 8% of expenditures are for employee compensation, the lion's share is which is military. If you really want to shrink the size of the government, you have to decrease the services it provides. Simply becoming more efficient won't do much.

I don’t know that anyone has claimed that this is all that is needed. More likely it is low hanging fruit that can yield immediate dividends. If they only save billions, so be it. It’s not either or relative to entitlements…

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

I don’t know that anyone has claimed that this is all that is needed. More likely it is low hanging fruit that can yield immediate dividends. If they only save billions, so be it. It’s not either or relative to entitlements…

Low hanging fruit is another way to say distraction. Makes it look like they are doing something when they really aren't, because, as crazed is fond of reminding us, tackling this issue will require difficult choices no one wants to be responsible for.

 

[jet812]

Low hanging fruit is another way to say distraction. Makes it look like they are doing something when they really aren't, because, as crazed is fond of reminding us, tackling this issue will require difficult choices no one wants to be responsible for.

That’s not what low-hanging fruit means. If they save money, they are doing something, & time will tell. One thing is for certain, no matter the results you’ll claim the actions that led to them were ineffective.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

I’ve always valued efficiency and effectiveness over just making government smaller. Sometimes they go hand in hand. Other times increasing headcount of raising salaries to attract top level talent is necessary to provide top level service. That should be the goal.

I can’t honestly say I’ve ever gotten something I’d call “top level service” from any public entity.

I was glad when Indiana’s BMV made it possible to do a lot of things online. I hate having to go to a physical license branch to accomplish a simple task. So I’ll give them that. But headcount wasn’t a factor - just a common sense use of modern technology did the trick.

But anybody who thinks the typical government agency provides efficient service should try buying, licensing, and operating a tractor-trailer for a year or two. They’ll be disabused of that nonsense very quickly.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

Low hanging fruit is another way to say distraction. Makes it look like they are doing something when they really aren't, because, as crazed is fond of reminding us, tackling this issue will require difficult choices no one wants to be responsible for.

I’d say it’s difficult choices no one will (ever) be willing to be responsible for.

But I hope I’m wrong about that.