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Pulling him was complete bullshit. Complete computer analytics chickenshit. Not the first time Roberts has done this too.

I am not stupid enough to say that Roberts should be fired. Overall he is a great manager. Arguably the best in the game today. However he needs and deserves a good ol fashioned clubhouse ass kicking.
 
He’s always hurt. You’re not stretched out in April. I don’t get the hate. A perfect game is so overblown. If Kershaw has someone make an error in the 9th and throws 115 pitches, then shuts it down in June people would be killing him.
 
It’s a different era man. We’re not throwing 90 anymore. Arms can’t physically take 100 pitches every 5 days. It’s just not worth the risk in a guy who’s always injured.
 
I wasn’t aware human physiology has changed so radically over the past few decades. Do you think we’re on the verge of an evolutionary regression?
Apparently. It was said in the early 2010’s 1/3 of all pitchers in MLB had Tommy John surgery or some form of significant elbow surgery. That count has come down in the last 10 years mainly due to lower pitch counts. The expanded rosters should help this problem too.
 
Tangentially related. The analytics era of baseball has made it a tough watch for the average fan. The pitching strategies are annoying and the shift is plain dumb. Throwing 2-3 innings is so different from what I grew up on.
 
Baseball talk? Is that still a thing? I thought someone posted something about the quaint little SC town...
 
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It’s a different era man. We’re not throwing 90 anymore. Arms can’t physically take 100 pitches every 5 days. It’s just not worth the risk in a guy who’s always injured.
Juan Marichal beat Warren Spahn 1-0 in a 16 inning game (On a Willie Mays home run), in which they were the only pitchers. Two future Hall of Famers with 243-142 and 363-245 lifetime wins/losses. Those days are long gone.
 
Juan Marichal beat Warren Spahn 1-0 in a 16 inning game (On a Willie Mays home run), in which they were the only pitchers. Two future Hall of Famers with 243-142 and 363-245 lifetime wins/losses. Those days are long gone.
Didn’t Kofax retire at 30 because of “dead arm” aka a significant elbow injury?
 
Tangentially related. The analytics era of baseball has made it a tough watch for the average fan. The pitching strategies are annoying and the shift is plain dumb. Throwing 2-3 innings is so different from what I grew up on.
Shift is gone in 2023. Also the new reliever rule has helped a ton. No more lefty on lefty or vice versa as a 1 off.
 
Yes, He did. He had to ice his arm after a game. His elbow was severely arthritic. Still the greatest pitcher I've ever seen. I have a baseball signed by: Koufax, Feller and Ryan. 14 no hitters between them.
What an amazing keepsake that is. Care to share the story about acquiring those signatures on that ball?
 
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What an amazing keepsake that is. Care to share the story about acquiring those signatures on that ball?
Well, my wife and I went on baseball tour. We saw 10 or 11 fields. It was in the last year of the original Yankee Stadium. As part of the tour, we went to Cooperstown. There was a large baseball memorabilia store there. At the time, I collected left-Handed pitchers (as I am a lefty). I was telling the sore owner about the various signatures and baseballs I had. He then said, "You might want look at a ball I have." It was that ball. I already had signatures of all three pitchers (My exception to lefty signatures were, Marichal, Gibson, Ryan and Feller). My wife, who knows her baseball, "forced" me to get it. My two favorite balls in my collection are that ball and my Johnny Vandermeer ball.
 
Like, balls all time?

I have a different answer.
Remember, They're in my collection and it's 97% pitchers. The only non-pitchers are Willie Mays (shadow box) and Bobby Richardson, all the rest are great pitchers, and most are lefties. There certainly other balls that would be amazing to have.
 
There certainly other balls that would be amazing to have.

Must.Not.Respond.

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Well, my wife and I went on baseball tour. We saw 10 or 11 fields. It was in the last year of the original Yankee Stadium. As part of the tour, we went to Cooperstown. There was a large baseball memorabilia store there. At the time, I collected left-Handed pitchers (as I am a lefty). I was telling the sore owner about the various signatures and baseballs I had. He then said, "You might want look at a ball I have." It was that ball. I already had signatures of all three pitchers (My exception to lefty signatures were, Marichal, Gibson, Ryan and Feller). My wife, who knows her baseball, "forced" me to get it. My two favorite balls in my collection are that ball and my Johnny Vandermeer ball.
wow, that's cool. Do you ever just sit back and think about that trip and stroke your balls?
 
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Kershaw said he talked with the manager Dave Roberts after the 6th inning

Roberts consulted with Kershaw after the sixth, and the three-time National League Cy Young Award winner told him his preference: one more inning with an 85-pitch limit.

It didn't surprise him or upset him, it seems. It was the player's preference, not Dave Robert's, or it was at least BOTH.

Just a new mindset, these days. No more Ryan / Carlton / Seaver bulldogs

 
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