James o’Keefe nails it.

[Marvin the Martian]

Marv you should’ve been a social media influencer instead.

I could still make good money at it. Pepsi has offered me a 7 figure contract to endorse Coke.

 

[stollcpa]

Not really. To do well in the area I was most qualified, you had to be able to charge big bucks. Once people started using phones for most of their actual computing needs, and/or laptops became disposable, the market I catered to dried up. I was never a full fledged IT guy, doing networking and admin type stuff like @Marvin the Martian . I was more a computer mechanic.

For years I floated from IT contractor to contractor as most were self taught and
quit after a few years.

I finally found my current IT contractor who’s self trained. I’ve lost tract of time but I’d guess I’ve used him 10-15 years. I’ve set him up with hundreds of my clients plus he’s gathered many other clients. He’s become very wealthy. He’s expanded into security systems for homes and businesses as well as making homes smart homes.

He’s living the American Dream. I can call him anytime day or night. He deserves the success he’s had.

 

[bawlmer]

I think you’re missing what he’s saying. He’s saying Fox doesn’t mask their bias like CNN does.

Fox doesn't warn it's viewers that it's giving them a one-sided perspective. It's no more honest than CNN.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

Fox doesn't warn it's viewers that it's giving them a one-sided perspective. It's no more honest than CNN.

I think that’s cognitive dissonance. Everybody knows Fox is off the rails.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

I think that’s cognitive dissonance. Everybody knows Fox is off the rails.

Do you think Fox is more off the rails than CNN?

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

Do you think Fox is more off the rails than CNN?

Yes I do. But again it’s a known quantity.

 

[hoosboot]

I think you’re missing what he’s saying. He’s saying Fox doesn’t mask their bias like CNN does.

They just have two biases, right? Being fair AND balanced. They just report and let you decide and are totally transparent about it. 🤣

 

[hoosboot]

"Social media influencers" are professional shills. You could make a bundle.

Is this what you mean with all this newfangled "influencer" talk?

 

[anon_6hv78pr714xta]

Is this what you mean with all this newfangled "influencer" talk?

I think Don Draper did that ad

 

[larsIU]

I think Don Draper did that ad

Now he's doing Fletch. Last thing I thought would ever be revived

 

[larsIU]

Is this what you mean with all this newfangled "influencer" talk?

That ad is so masculine I think i might be pregnant.

 

[mcmurtry66]

After spending time here at the Cooler with my conservative friends and trying to walk in their shoes, I see bias everywhere.

PBS Frontline, PBS Newshour, 60 Minutes, local TV news, Indianapolis Star, to name a few. Sources which I still consider worth watching and reading. Am I completely woked out ?

No you're spot on per usual. It's not always how they cover but what they cover

 

[UncleMark]

No you're spot on per usual. It's not always how they cover but what they cover

NPR spends way too much time on the latest millennial outrage. But the alternative is Clay and Buck, so I'm kind of stuck.

 

[Cortez88]

On the subject of differences between Republicans and Democrats in regard to the media, I found this Gallup poll interesting. In part the poll discovered the following,,.

Sixty-seven percent of Republicans but far fewer Democrats (20%) and independents (48%) have an unfavorable opinion of the news media. Across all measures, Republicans express more negative sentiments about the media than do Democrats and independents.

So whether you believe in the "fake news" and/or the media lies conclusions depends on your politics. Just another reason why the country is so divided since we don't have a common source for the news that the great majority can trust.

This begs the question about why people distrust the media. I think there are good reasons that smart folks should be critical and/or skeptical of certain media at certain times.

However, I wonder how many people’s distrust results directly from what the media THEY consume tells them. Responding to the data you include, could these Republicans distrust “media” because Fox News (as an example) tells them that all other media cannot be trusted?

 

[mcmurtry66]

This begs the question about why people distrust the media. I think there are good reasons that smart folks should be critical and/or skeptical of certain media at certain times.

However, I wonder how many people’s distrust results directly from what the media THEY consume tells them. Responding to the data you include, could these Republicans distrust “media” because Fox News (as an example) tells them that all other media cannot be trusted?

I think people with even a hint of discernment can see how bad the media is in the sense that you don't have to watch it long to see an agenda/narrative being pushed. hell the new guy at cnn admitted as much. journalists from the NYT have admitted as much. obviously you watch msnbc you can see they have an agenda. flip over to fox and bam same drill. an agenda.

the good thing is that for many subjects you can go right to the source and see for yourself. so if fox news says crime is out of control and msnbc says it's exaggerated you can bypass these channels and go to the source and find out for yourself. the problem is most people don't take the time

 

[Cortez88]

I think people with even a hint of discernment can see how bad the media is in the sense that you don't have to watch it long to see an agenda/narrative being pushed. hell the new guy at cnn admitted as much. journalists from the NYT have admitted as much. obviously you watch msnbc you can see they have an agenda. flip over to fox and bam same drill. an agenda.

the good thing is that for many subjects you can go right to the source and see for yourself. so if fox news says crime is out of control and msnbc says it's exaggerated you can bypass these channels and go to the source and find out for yourself. the problem is most people don't take the time

I get that. But if YOUR media tells you you can never believe a story in the NYT or WSJ, then that is wrong. Many on this site take the bait hook line and sinker.

 

[anon_6hv78pr714xta]

NPR spends way too much time on the latest millennial outrage. But the alternative is Clay and Buck, so I'm kind of stuck.

Find non-partisan podcasts. Infinitely better.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

I think that’s cognitive dissonance. Everybody knows Fox is off the rails.

Unless one tunes into FNC, you would have no clue of the magnitude of the problem at our southern border.

 

[Cortez88]

Find non-partisan podcasts. Infinitely better.

We seem to listen to a lot of the same podcasts. I’d recommend Plain English with Derek Thompson. He’s probably left of center but is an interesting thinker and has interesting guests on. Give a listen to the recent one with Chuck Klosterman. So many thought provoking ideas in that one. Also loved the one about old music eating new music.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

Unless one tunes into FNC, you would have no clue of the magnitude of the problem at our southern border.

Exactly my point

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Exactly my point

IT'S A CRISIS.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

NPR spends way too much time on the latest millennial outrage. But the alternative is Clay and Buck, so I'm kind of stuck.

I think I've said this before, but I'm really getting sick of Jenn White.

 

[UncleMark]

I think I've said this before, but I'm really getting sick of Jenn White.

Here and Now is the other one that's on during my driving time. They don't seem so bad, more news than commentary.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Here and Now is the other one that's on during my driving time. They don't seem so bad, more news than commentary.

Here and Now is more acceptable than 1A.

 

[jet812]

IT'S A CRISIS.

I wouldn’t expect that a group that can’t define what a woman is to recognize or define what is or isn’t a crisis either though to be fair.🤷

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Unless one tunes into FNC, you would have no clue of the magnitude of the problem at our southern border.

yes, immigration is obviously a problem.

but conservative's solution creates a much greater problem.

but then conservatives care only about themselves, and "f" everyone else.

and downside to Tucker Conservative by immigrants is one thousandth the downside to immigrants of conservatives.

what about the magnitude of the problem of those at the border.

conservative = me me me me me me me me me us us us us us us us us.

really dude, try and be a better person in the future.

shouldn't be tough.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

yes, immigration is obviously a problem.

but conservative's solution creates a much greater problem.

but then conservatives care only about themselves, and "f" everyone else.

and downside to Tucker Conservative by immigrants is one thousandth the downside to immigrants of conservatives.

what about the magnitude of the problem of those at the border.

conservative = me me me me me me me me me us us us us us us us us.

really dude, try and be a better person in the future.

shouldn't be tough.

This not an immigration problem.

Trump had the border under control. I don’t know what Tucker has to do with this.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Trump had the border under control.

LOL.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

I think people with even a hint of discernment can see how bad the media is in the sense that you don't have to watch it long to see an agenda/narrative being pushed. hell the new guy at cnn admitted as much. journalists from the NYT have admitted as much. obviously you watch msnbc you can see they have an agenda. flip over to fox and bam same drill. an agenda.

the good thing is that for many subjects you can go right to the source and see for yourself. so if fox news says crime is out of control and msnbc says it's exaggerated you can bypass these channels and go to the source and find out for yourself. the problem is most people don't take the time

CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CBS, right wing hate radio, etc, all have an agenda, and all have the exact same agenda.

keep everyone fighting each other over things Wall St doesn't care about, so the viewers/listeners of all don't fight Wall St over things Wall St does care about.

the definition of insanity, is expecting a CORPORATION to behave as anything but a CORPORATION, and in the interests of the OWNERS of CORPORATIONS, not the consumers and employees of CORPORATIONS.

real journalism was killed off when literally all media of reach became CORPORATE owned and controlled.

to expect anything different, is just not grasping what CORPORATIONS are, and what they aren't and literally never can be, even if everyone at the CORPORATION including the CEO wished otherwise..

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

This not an immigration problem.

Trump had the border under control. I don’t know what Tucker has to do with this.

Do you have data to back that up?

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Do you have data to back that up?

By FY 2020, The Trump agreements with the Northern Triangle countries were finally in place, the remain in Mexico policy was in full effect, catch and release was terminated, and wall construction was under way.

Biden put all of that effort in the dumpster on day 1. The result is worsening border chaos.

Southwest Land Border Encounters

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

​

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

By FY 2020, The Trump agreements with the Northern Triangle countries were finally in place, the remain in Mexico policy was in full effect, catch and release was terminated, and wall construction was under way.

Biden put all of that effort in the dumpster on day 1. The result is worsening border chaos.

Southwest Land Border Encounters

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

​

Looks pretty damning to me.

 

[DANC]

Do you have data to back that up?

Prima facia

 

[bawlmer]

I think that’s cognitive dissonance. Everybody knows Fox is off the rails.

I know lots of people who take it at face value.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

false choice.

beyond ridiculous assertion by the guest that has zero basis in fact or logic, with no push back from Slen.

one does not have to deceive their subject to be journalist, and to state they do is just lying or stupidity.

and one can quote someone telling lies, without endorsing or promoting said lies, just by adding other background and data, and pointing out what could be untrue or misleading in the quote, and why.

that said, all journalism of any reach has become based in money and nothing else, because all journalism of reach today is corporate, and a corporation does not have the freedom to serve any interest other than itself and and it's owners.

if the CEO, the editor, and every employee of the corporation wanted to serve journalism first, and not it's corporate ownership, it still wouldn't be able to for any length of time, because the corporation itself will never allow that, just because of what a corporation is..

no exceptions, and to think there are is just deceiving yourself, and not grasping what a corporation is.

doesn't make the corporation bad or good, as a corporation can be neither, as it's an inanimate thing with only one prime objective, and literally no ability to alter that primary objective.

and truth, or the whole truth, is not that objective, nor can it ever be, just due to what a corporation, any corporation, is and isn't.

gone are the days of where a newspaper or radio or tv station or network is privately owned and operated, and can serve the interests, or even try to serve the interests, of the reader, listener, viewer, truth, first.

and while we like to think of CSpan as something it actually isn't, let's not forget that CSpan is both completely funded and distributed primarily by AT&T and Comcast, and to lesser degree by other telecom corps with the same interests as AT&T and Comcast, both domestic and foreign, and all multinational.

CSpan likes to give out the illusion it's unbiased, but no 100% multinational corporate conglomerate controlled entity so much as has the ability to be unbiased, or serve any interest other than the corporation and it's ownership first.

we would all like to believe otherwise, but that would just be deceiving ourselves as to what large multinational conglomerate corporations actually are, and the only rules and end objectives they can pursue.

Why do you bother posting?

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Why do you bother posting?

Why don't you just put him on ignore like the rest of us? He's harmless if no one reads him or responds to him.

 

[Lucy01]

Why don't you just put him on ignore like the rest of us? He's harmless if no one reads him or responds to him.

Weak.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Why do you bother posting?

Why don't you just put him on ignore like the rest of us? He's harmless if no one reads him or responds to him.

i notice neither of you disagreed with a thing i said, (nor credibly could you, which is no doubt why), you just didn't like my saying it.

truth is unpopular with many here.

you 2 are often among that "many".

that doesn't make it less true though.

how sad. and we wonder how we got to this point.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

i notice neither of you disagreed with a thing i said, (nor credibly could you, which is no doubt why), you just didn't like my saying it.

truth is unpopular with many here.

you 2 are often among that "many".

that doesn't make it less true though.

how sad. and we wonder how we got to this point.

Who knows what you posted? I don’t.