jai lucas reneau and agents

[kurt cloverdales]

Hopefully when you say pros you mean Europe. He doesn't project to the NBA as a 3,4 or 5. He is a good college player, he would probably do well at Miami but it depends on who is around him.

I'm interested who else is leaving, MM and Tucker I would suspect? Any idea where they will land? I would like to have Goode, Rice and Reneau back but if you are correct the last one is off the table.

tucker Maryland, Cupps Dayton MM will throw is name in the draft, which is delusional, ultimately think he ends up back east. agree Reneau not an NBA player but he thinks he is which is understandable.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

There might not be a mass exodus if the new coach is someone that 1)wants our current guys...and 2)is a guy they'd want to play for

There's no way to know that right now. Even if you have legit sources that are saying the current players are planning on leaving. They'll all give the new guy at least a conversation or two, I'm sure.

not sure you realize how influential agents have become

 

[kurt cloverdales]

Is Newton even real? Right now I'd classify him with leprechauns, yetis, and the Easter Bunny.

throw in Lucy's intelligence

 

[abraxis]

Is Newton even real? Right now I'd classify him with leprechauns, yetis, and the Easter Bunny.

Didn’t he play for what…5 minutes in one game? The question remains, why?

 

[IUNorth]

not sure you realize how influential agents have become

I have a pretty clear understanding of agents, family persuasion, NIL initiative contacts, NIL independent contacts...

Indiana is still very powerful, and presents as high a potential return for all these invested parties, as anyone would. The new IU coach will get a chance to consider and re recruit all the players, I'm sure.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

I have a pretty clear understanding of agents, family persuasion, NIL initiative contacts, NIL independent contacts...

Indiana is still very powerful, and presents as high a potential return for all these invested parties, as anyone would. The new IU coach will get a chance to consider and re recruit all the players, I'm sure.

we will see, I agree the new coach may very well try to re-recruit some players, I also think a few of them have already made decisions. imo the more that stay the better, I actually think we have some great potential already here, they take a lot of shit for their performance, but we actually have a pretty good group of student athletes

 

[IUNorth]

we will see, I agree the new coach may very well try to re-recruit some players, I also think a few of them have already made decisions. imo the more that stay the better, I actually think we have some great potential already here, they take a lot of shit for their performance, but we actually have a pretty good group of student athletes

I'm sure some have made decisions already. But even those players will meet with the new coach when the time comes. And you never know what happens at that point.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Maybe Leal can get his 6th year and third coach 🤞🏽

Do it

 

[mohoosier]

There's lots of players that score 1,000 points and you definitely have to have good talent to do that. But Reneau doesn't = wins. But you raise a good point - one that perpetually bad teams always have: Is it the players? The coaches? The systems? Etc. But a Reneau that is held to account for his defense, not moving the ball, throwing up shots so bad you couldn't even articulate them before you saw them? Maybe.

People attribute greatness to Reneau simply because he’s an above-average down-low player. Can he score and does he have good footwork? Yes. Can he play defense? No. Is he a rim defender? No. Is he a good passer? No. Can he put the ball on the floor and get to the rim? Oh please, don’t ask this one.

Ballo leads the team in scoring, rebounding and blocks, per game. So, just by definition Reneau is not great. If one conducts a true assessment of MR, they will conclude that overall he’s an average player at best. It’s like calling Mackenzie Mgbako a great player because he can shoot, sometimes.

To be great, a player has to be above average in several categories, and they have to make their team better every time they step on the floor. We don’t have any great players, even with a better coach. Every one of them are severely limited in one or more areas. Could they get better with a better coach, sure and the team would most definitely improve, but individually none have a high ceiling. Put it this way, are there any NBA players on this team? If TJD struggled getting in, what’s that say for this group?

 

[kurt cloverdales]

People attribute greatness to Reneau simply because he’s an above-average down-low player. Can he score and does he have good footwork? Yes. Can he play defense? No. Is he a rim defender? No. Is he a good passer? No. Can he put the ball on the floor and get to the rim? Oh please, don’t ask this one.

Ballo leads the team in scoring, rebounding and blocks, per game. So, just by definition Reneau is not great. If one conducts a true assessment of MR, they will conclude that overall he’s an average player at best. It’s like calling Mackenzie Mgbako a great player because he can shoot, sometimes.

To be great, a player has to be above average in several categories, and they have to make their team better every time they step on the floor. We don’t have any great players, even with a better coach. Every one of them are severely limited in one or more areas. Could they get better with a better coach, sure and the team would most definitely improve, but individually none have a high ceiling. Put it this way, are there any NBA players on this team? If TJD struggled getting in, what’s that say for this group?

Reneau would be in high demand on the open market, all kinds of top 20 teams don't have NBA type players. Reneau is a very good college player.

 

[Coach Pete Bell]

I am all for second chances. For instance Coach Hart who used to be at Linton/Stockton was fired for drinking and driving. He is now the coach at Cloverdale. I would say Beard should get another shot. He paid a big price for doing what he did. He lost his dream job

Hart should be in jail not coaching high school ball.

 

[ulrey]

Watch Drake's pick and roll offense. Malik would average 20ppg in that offense probably, as their 5 man. The only question would be could McCollum get Malik to kick to opposite wings more when closely guarded...and then would he be willing to play defense how McCollum's teams play.

The guy they use now, Banks, is smaller, less skilled, and less refined around the basket than Malik. And he does very well in it.

It would also help Bennett Stirtz too, as other teams couldn't hard hedge on him as much as they do, and/or trap and double him coming off those screens. Malik would have a field day, and I'm sure Stirtz would be more than willing to get him the ball regularly.

McCullum to Virginia.

 

[Pryght]

Terrible players do not score 1000 points in less than 3 years in the Big 10.

It's too bad that box scores don't list how many points each individual player gave up on the defensive end. I'd be interested in seeing Malik and Mgbako's data.

 

[ams66]

Hart should be in jail not coaching high school ball.

What good would that do? Did he hurt anybody? Did he change his life?

 

[luviubball]

Who do we currently have that can play another year?

MR
Rice
carlyle
MM
Tucker


Cupps/Newton - will Newton ever play?

feel bad for him