tucker Maryland, Cupps Dayton MM will throw is name in the draft, which is delusional, ultimately think he ends up back east. agree Reneau not an NBA player but he thinks he is which is understandable.
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I have a pretty clear understanding of agents, family persuasion, NIL initiative contacts, NIL independent contacts...
Indiana is still very powerful, and presents as high a potential return for all these invested parties, as anyone would. The new IU coach will get a chance to consider and re recruit all the players, I'm sure.
we will see, I agree the new coach may very well try to re-recruit some players, I also think a few of them have already made decisions. imo the more that stay the better, I actually think we have some great potential already here, they take a lot of shit for their performance, but we actually have a pretty good group of student athletes
I'm sure some have made decisions already. But even those players will meet with the new coach when the time comes. And you never know what happens at that point.
People attribute greatness to Reneau simply because he’s an above-average down-low player. Can he score and does he have good footwork? Yes. Can he play defense? No. Is he a rim defender? No. Is he a good passer? No. Can he put the ball on the floor and get to the rim? Oh please, don’t ask this one.
Ballo leads the team in scoring, rebounding and blocks, per game. So, just by definition Reneau is not great. If one conducts a true assessment of MR, they will conclude that overall he’s an average player at best. It’s like calling Mackenzie Mgbako a great player because he can shoot, sometimes.
To be great, a player has to be above average in several categories, and they have to make their team better every time they step on the floor. We don’t have any great players, even with a better coach. Every one of them are severely limited in one or more areas. Could they get better with a better coach, sure and the team would most definitely improve, but individually none have a high ceiling. Put it this way, are there any NBA players on this team? If TJD struggled getting in, what’s that say for this group?
Reneau would be in high demand on the open market, all kinds of top 20 teams don't have NBA type players. Reneau is a very good college player.
It's too bad that box scores don't list how many points each individual player gave up on the defensive end. I'd be interested in seeing Malik and Mgbako's data.
Nba type? He gets his shot blocked all the time. He will be lucky to be in the G league. Good college player with no upside no outside shot can't jump lacks quickness to guard bigs that can move.
Again terrible players do not score 1000 points in 3 years. IU’s defense is bad overall, the past two years we have had zero guard play with no defense. Hard to fault bigs when the defense breaks down out front.
you misread, he's not close to being an NBA player. I was replying to someone who said you have to have NBA types to be good.
Ok well don’t know anything more than what was posted here about him having a DUI. Never heard of him so if there’s more to the story I wouldn’t know.
On what open market, the portal? And that makes you a great player? Rice and Carlyle were highly sought after, remember?
Malik has some great attributes but he is not a great player and will have serious issues fitting into an NBA roster. He is not a great 5, read my above post, and is nowhere near and NBA 4.
When he's defending perimeter players, and/or out on the perimeter having to go through perimeter defender type rotations...yes.
He isn't a great, or even all that good, of a post defender. But he isn't terrible there.
A good coach would 1)teach him how to play better defense all over the court 2)put him in the best position to be a successful defender. Woodson doesn't seem to care much about either one of those things.
Somebody was going to score those 1,000 points TD, and who got the benefit of having an offense completely designed around getting them the ball? Malik did.
Again, he's not a high-level 5 and he's not at all a 4. There's no way he'll be the same type of scorer at the next level.
I don't think he can make the next level, and I don't think he is "great" but I also do not think he is awful as some suggest. He will be a hot commodity in the portal if he goes that route. He is 6'9 can score with both hands and is above average in most facets of the game.
Very few make the NBA, that is the unrealistic view of many college players.
Gotcha, but where is he above average in most facets of the game? I'm not seeing that.
He really hasn't been coached, his offensive game in college is pretty good given the fact he hasn't been coached. If will end his three year stint at IU with probably close to 1100 points, over 500 rebounds and close to 180 assists. Those are good numbers. I do agree he is not a rim protector but he didn't come in with that skill and he is limited athletically but again he came to IU with that being known.
I just wish he had a coach that could take his skill set and make him better.
On Malik, he's averaging 13 points this year, 5 rebounds and 2 assists. He's scored over 20 points in 3 games. That is very average for someone who gets as many touches as he does. I doubt he even makes the 2nd team this year.
He came in with above average footwork and post moves. His development hasn’t been that high. But, he had good post moves, footwork and ability to score inside from the get go.
Definitely not making 2nd team all Big 10. He does shoot it at close to 60% so touches are one thing, running the offense to get you a shot is another. He would be a good foundation piece for the new coach, if he goes to the portal he would be a valued commodity.
Hell the kid from Purdue transferred to Duke and gets valued minutes, he was way less than average last year at Purdue.
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