IU out

[dbmhoosier]

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Weak non-con schedule bit you. There is a message being sent.

Got in as a four

Run to IU board

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Michigan was screwed. How does Purdue, who finished 3 spots lower than Michigan in the conference, get a 4 seed?

Michigan beat the PUkes ass hard, and the PUkes look like they are running on fumes at this point. Hell, IU beat their ass. UM is clearly playing better and better than the PUkes. I'm amazed and puzzled.

 

[steelyvan]

Not sure I agree with Oklahoma or Arky getting in. To go along with UNC and X.

 

[ams66]

Only 2 of our Q1 wins were really good ones. A number of our Q1 losses were blowouts

 

[4IUSox2]

Does this mean we’re not gonna make that Elite 8 run to send Woody off on a high note?!?!

 

[kmathum]

Does this mean we’re not gonna make that Elite 8 run to send Woody off on a high note?!?!

And I had such high hopes. TIC

 

[Tscurlo]

Well..... I only have two things to say.... one positive and one negative.

1. We should have won more games and let us decide if we were in or not,,,, not leave it to a Committee,

2. Is this the NCAA Committee's final "Screw You finger" over RMK's Grave???

 

[abraxis]

Michigan was screwed. How does Purdue, who finished 3 spots lower than Michigan in the conference, get a 4 seed?

I think there’s always been a Keady/Painter lovefest at play here amongst the NCAA basketball committee members. After Bob Knight’s ignominious exit, scorned as a bad person, it’s easy for them to dismiss IU. Any basketball fan across the country old enough to remember still loves to hate IU basketball.

 

[ce36ei]

Only 2 of our Q1 wins were really good ones. A number of our Q1 losses were blowouts

NC beat UCLA by 2. That’s it!

 

[Mobes]

If IU is shit canning their coach for poor performance, why should the NCAA do anything different? It's called a mercy flush. Way past time to move on. I'm glad I don't have to watch it anymore.

NIT?

 

[Tscurlo]

NIT?

I think it's already been posted on Twitter that we Won't accept an NIT bit.

 

[iubud]

True but I don't see a compelling reason for us to make it either

Ballo's last presser showed the mood of the team. The team has been broken for a long time. The committee could have paired us up against a mid major to embarrass us in a play in game, but luckily they didn't. The committee rightfully left us out even though our body of work should have gotten us in.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Weak non-con schedule bit you. There is a message being sent.

Question is…who bit you? Mom and wife jokes don’t qualify. Was it the 4-4 record against Woodson?

 

[ryoder1]

UNC in because they chaired the selection, only reason. ACC sucks. How do they and Texas make it???

For some reason we had no room to spare vs Texas and UNC. Just barely ahead of both heading to conference tourneys. Then we lose and they both beat higher seeds and that's it folks. Lunardi called it. We don't deserve anything and need to mercifully end the season officially now, send Woodson packing and hopefully make a great new hire. The state of our program is pathetic.

 

[BBallDad02]

I think it's already been posted on Twitter that we Won't accept an NIT bit.

True

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

The powers that be decided to run this clown show back, and the exact same result as last year happened this year: whodathunkit?

Woodson did this year what Woodson does every year. The true litmus test of the year was in the Bahamas. When we came out of that thing cooked, chewed up and spit out, I knew it was over.
Don’t care to contemplate why Xavier and Texas and UNC were among the last-4 in and IU had slipped to the 2nd team of the first-4 out. Poetic justice for a lousy staff and program.
Now, the new era begins. Burn it down like they did football. Go after a good coach who sets standards and doesn’t settle. Have a program that is fundamentally sound, tough and plays with a chip on its shoulder.

Hey, we may even get to see a 2nd round game of Purdue vs. The Great Brownell!

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

For some reason we had no room to spare vs Texas and UNC. Just barely ahead of both heading to conference tourneys. Then we lose and they both beat higher seeds and that's it folks. Lunardi called it. We don't deserve anything and need to mercifully end the season officially now, send Woodson packing and hopefully make a great new hire. The state of our program is pathetic.

Lunardi had us back in in his final bracket. Along with 89 other bracketologists out of 113.

 

[raar2]

Committee didn't want a Uni with a hostile fan base. If we went and played the way we did too many times this year, there would be booooooos -- Not what the NCAA wants.

Plus IU has Vegas to fall back on.

 

[gator mcCluskey]

Lunardi had us back in in his final bracket. Along with 89 other bracketologists out of 113.

That’s kind of head-turning. Makes you wonder what criteria the committee was using that the vast majority of bracketologists were not.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Committee didn't want a Uni with a hostile fan base. If we went and played the way we did too many times this year, there would be booooooos -- Not what the NCAA wants.

Plus IU has Vegas to fall back on.

This is pure gold!
(and they deserved to be boo’d. You make big money, you get big boos!)

 

[GeorgeStrait IU]

Ya conference tourney games don't mean shit when we need it to, this year, they thought otherwise.

They beat two medicore teams in conf tourney.. Would be like IU beating Minnesota and USC

 

[apm1003]

Got in as a four

Run to IU board

Getting in as a four was not unexpected. It was hardly unexpected as it had been predicted by bracketologists for a while. IU's failure was less certain, at least to many posters here and many bracketologists. The lesson that should be learned is to step up your non-con schedule because the terrible one usually played bit you big-time. With a better non-con, you likely made the cut.

I remember clearly the claims here that your NIL warchest was going to make IU dominant. That has turned out not to be the case. Might want to re-think the strategy.

 

[ams66]

Getting in as a four was not unexpected. It was hardly unexpected as it had been predicted by bracketologists for a while. IU's failure was less certain, at least to many posters here and many bracketologists. The lesson that should be learned is to step up your non-con schedule because the terrible one usually played bit you big-time. With a better non-con, you likely made the cut.

I remember clearly the claims here that your NIL warchest was going to make IU dominant. That has turned out not to be the case. Might want to re-think the strategy.

Glad we're still on your mind if not in the tournament, though there was never really any doubt.

 

[UTFO]

Getting in as a four was not unexpected. It was hardly unexpected as it had been predicted by bracketologists for a while. IU's failure was less certain, at least to many posters here and many bracketologists. The lesson that should be learned is to step up your non-con schedule because the terrible one usually played bit you big-time. With a better non-con, you likely made the cut.

I remember clearly the claims here that your NIL warchest was going to make IU dominant. That has turned out not to be the case. Might want to re-think the strategy.

Nobody here ever said any Woodson-run team would be "dominant". lol

Hell half the board wanted him gone last year, the other half just accepted it was his last season.

 

[IUAONE]

It’s obvious that the committee is biased towards a few teams and IU and WV paid the price!

 

[outside shooter]

Weak non-con schedule bit you. There is a message being sent.

That sounds good, until you look at the non-con schedule of Xavier. Biggest non-conf game was a 25-point loss to Michigan.

 

[T.M.P.]

Weak non-con schedule bit you. There is a message being sent.

had nothing to do with it ..

That sounds good, until you look at the non-con schedule of Xavier. Biggest non-conf game was a 25-point loss to Michigan.

The blow outs screwed our metrics. Lose those games by 10 or less instead of 15 or more and the NET is in the low 30s.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Getting in as a four was not unexpected. It was hardly unexpected as it had been predicted by bracketologists for a while. IU's failure was less certain, at least to many posters here and many bracketologists. The lesson that should be learned is to step up your non-con schedule because the terrible one usually played bit you big-time. With a better non-con, you likely made the cut.

I remember clearly the claims here that your NIL warchest was going to make IU dominant. That has turned out not to be the case. Might want to re-think the strategy.

Get lucky seed, run to IU board on a daily basis

 

[apm1003]

Get lucky seed, run to IU board on a daily basis

Purdue as a four had been expected for at least 2 weeks. Also, if you look at the preseason expectations in the polls, Purdue was ranked around 14-16. That puts them as a 4, which is what it turned out to be. So how is that lucky? It turned out as expected.

Expectations occurring isn't really breaking news.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Purdue as a four had been expected for at least 2 weeks. Also, if you look at the preseason expectations in the polls, Purdue was ranked around 14-16. That puts them as a 4, which is what it turned out to be. So how is that lucky? It turned out as expected.

Expectations occurring isn't really breaking news.

I would argue losing 6 of 9 to end the regular season, including getting pasted by Michigan in the BTT, is a better gauge than anything that happened in November.

 

[apm1003]

I would argue that performance over a season is a better indicator than the outcomes of a 2-3 week period. If you recall a class in statistics, which I will guess that you either never took or else paid little attention to, you would know that the larger the sample set, the more likely it is to be representative of the real set. But that's just math.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

I would argue that performance over a season is a better indicator than the outcomes of a 2-3 week period. If you recall a class in statistics, which I will guess that you either never took or else paid little attention to, you would know that the larger the sample set, the more likely it is to be representative of the real set. But that's just math.

Receive fantastic draw...run to IU board daily.

 

[IUNorth]

I would argue that performance over a season is a better indicator than the outcomes of a 2-3 week period. If you recall a class in statistics, which I will guess that you either never took or else paid little attention to, you would know that the larger the sample set, the more likely it is to be representative of the real set. But that's just math.

Interesting...coming from a fan of one of the bigger choking programs in NCAA tournament history. I guess there are outliers to every theory... strange that many of the outliers to yours are produced by your own favorite team.

The only thing I like about this years "mis seeding" is if they choke again, it'll be more embarrassing to the Fat Painter.

 

[RowdyHoosier]

I would argue that performance over a season is a better indicator than the outcomes of a 2-3 week period. If you recall a class in statistics, which I will guess that you either never took or else paid little attention to, you would know that the larger the sample set, the more likely it is to be representative of the real set. But that's just math.

The NCAAT isn't played in November or December. How a team is playing at the end of the year is more important. In sports, it is; "What have you done for me lately". I like the teams that enter the tourney with some momentum. It will be interesting to see if Purdue can create some momentum b/c they certainly aren't entering the tourney with much.

 

[frikkenfrakken]

Getting in as a four was not unexpected. It was hardly unexpected as it had been predicted by bracketologists for a while. IU's failure was less certain, at least to many posters here and many bracketologists. The lesson that should be learned is to step up your non-con schedule because the terrible one usually played bit you big-time. With a better non-con, you likely made the cut.

I remember clearly the claims here that your NIL warchest was going to make IU dominant. That has turned out not to be the case. Might want to re-think the strategy.

Or, maybe we'll use the same strategy but with a coach that knows how to execute it.

 

[GThomas]

Interesting...coming from a fan of one of the bigger choking programs in NCAA tournament history. I guess there are outliers to every theory... strange that many of the outliers to yours are produced by your own favorite team.

The only thing I like about this years "mis seeding" is if they choke again, it'll be more embarrassing to the Fat Painter.

Are you referring to the "choking program" the reached title game last season? I can't stand Purdue, but at least they haven't missed the NCAAT 70% of the time in the last decade.

People who live in glass houses...

 

[apm1003]

Receive fantastic draw...run to IU board daily.

Many analysts have cited HPU as one of the best choices to pick if you are looking for a mid-major to pull an upset in the first round. Given that fact, your post claiming a fantastic draw for Purdue is somewhat silly. But given your history is hardly surprising.

 

[apm1003]

The NCAAT isn't played in November or December. How a team is playing at the end of the year is more important. In sports, it is; "What have you done for me lately". I like the teams that enter the tourney with some momentum. It will be interesting to see if Purdue can create some momentum b/c they certainly aren't entering the tourney with much.

You are correct to not judge based on just the early seasonal results. That is why I cited the total season. You may like what you may like, but if you are looking for a gauge of performance, which was cited and to which I responded, then math says that the larger sample set is likely to be more representative. Your argument is not with me, it is with math.

You might like to bet on longshots over favorites, but math tells you that they are respectively longshots and favorites for good reason.

 

[apm1003]

Interesting...coming from a fan of one of the bigger choking programs in NCAA tournament history. I guess there are outliers to every theory... strange that many of the outliers to yours are produced by your own favorite team.

The only thing I like about this years "mis seeding" is if they choke again, it'll be more embarrassing to the Fat Painter.

I guess that you missed the post here from a few months ago that cited quite a surprising number of losses by IU under RMK to double-digit seeds. IIRC, it was not that significantly different from Painter's. Upsets happened all the time in the NCAA. However, the recent evolution of the tournament with NIL development is likely to make the probability of big upsets significantly more rare.