It was DeSantis -- Praise the Lord and Pass the Contributions

[Stuffshot]

Hope Florida scandal puts obstacle in Casey DeSantis' pathway to governor | Opinion

Casey DeSantis' Hope Florida charity embroiled in financial dealings that put a harsh light on her hopes to follow her husband as Florida governor

www.usatoday.com

Keep in mind that DeSantis was the Republicans first choice before Trump showed them how to do it.

 

[Bowlmania]

Hope Florida scandal puts obstacle in Casey DeSantis' pathway to governor | Opinion

Casey DeSantis' Hope Florida charity embroiled in financial dealings that put a harsh light on her hopes to follow her husband as Florida governor

www.usatoday.com

Keep in mind that DeSantis was the Republicans first choice before Trump showed them how to do it.

Sounds like a self-dealing scam. Problem is …. who’s going to investigate? The Florida AG? Bondi? Not a chance.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

Hope Florida scandal puts obstacle in Casey DeSantis' pathway to governor | Opinion

Casey DeSantis' Hope Florida charity embroiled in financial dealings that put a harsh light on her hopes to follow her husband as Florida governor

www.usatoday.com

Keep in mind that DeSantis was the Republicans first choice before Trump showed them how to do it.

It’s truly a shame he didn’t win the nomination.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Hope Florida scandal puts obstacle in Casey DeSantis' pathway to governor | Opinion

Casey DeSantis' Hope Florida charity embroiled in financial dealings that put a harsh light on her hopes to follow her husband as Florida governor

www.usatoday.com

Keep in mind that DeSantis was the Republicans first choice before Trump showed them how to do it.

It’s truly a shame he didn’t win the nomination.

Definitely. He would have been a competent president

 

[Marvin the Martian]

I don't understand the concept that government aid is bad and teaches people to be lazy and let us take care of them, but church aid doesn't? If someone else is buying the burrito, isn't the sit back and let them buy it problem the same?

I have heard someone on the far right make that point, no one should be helping the poor as all help is contrary to self-reliance. I disagree with that. At a minimum, it violates what my religion believes that we are to help those less fortunate. But at least it is internally consistent.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I don't understand the concept that government aid is bad and teaches people to be lazy and let us take care of them, but church aid doesn't? If someone else is buying the burrito, isn't the sit back and let them buy it problem the same?

I have heard someone on the far right make that point, no one should be helping the poor as all help is contrary to self-reliance. I disagree with that. At a minimum, it violates what my religion believes that we are to help those less fortunate. But at least it is internally consistent.

Dependency. Church feels like a gift gov an entitlement. Cradle to grave.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Ron and his wife are both a couple of snakes. If Trump makes him SoD he will lose a lot of support.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Dependency. Church feels like a gift gov an entitlement. Cradle to grave.

How is that different? Churches have run orphanages and old folks homes and soup kitchens and homeless shelters throughout somewhat modern history.

 

[mcmurtry66]

How is that different? Churches have run orphanages and old folks homes and soup kitchens and homeless shelters throughout somewhat modern history.

It’s different in so many ways. And I know. Salvation Army is a church. Church is charity designed to fill gaps. Gov is different in purpose scope duration on and on. Gov confers a benefit one can ostensibly rely on that creates dependency vs the vagaries of charitable giving

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

It’s different in so many ways. And I know. Salvation Army is a church. Church is charity designed to fill gaps. Gov is different in purpose scope duration on and on. Gov confers a benefit one can ostensibly rely on that creates dependency vs the vagaries of charitable giving

Someone has been taking good notes and studying hard at COHU.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Someone has been taking good notes and studying hard at COHU.

Or a masters in public administration and years at United way

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Or a masters in public administration and years at United way

(You're exhausting.)

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

I don't understand the concept that government aid is bad and teaches people to be lazy and let us take care of them, but church aid doesn't? If someone else is buying the burrito, isn't the sit back and let them buy it problem the same?

I have heard someone on the far right make that point, no one should be helping the poor as all help is contrary to self-reliance. I disagree with that. At a minimum, it violates what my religion believes that we are to help those less fortunate. But at least it is internally consistent.

1) People usually don’t become permanently dependent on private charity.

2) And the people running the charities aren’t motivated to bring that about.

3) Charitable funds are given voluntarily

 

[snarlcakes]

I don't understand the concept that government aid is bad and teaches people to be lazy and let us take care of them, but church aid doesn't? If someone else is buying the burrito, isn't the sit back and let them buy it problem the same?

Government aid is someone else's money that was taken from them and church aid comes from people who choose to donate it. Also, governments have the ability to print their own money, run up deficits, and pass on the inflation to the populace to maintain their programs, which is theft in my opinion. Churches don't have that ability.

 

[mcmurtry66]

(You're exhausting.)

You’re like an ex at this point 🤣

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

You’re like an ex at this point 🤣

Ex-cellent judge of character, I assume.

 

[Morrison]

You’re like an ex at this point 🤣

Don’t start the “Gonna fuc* up a lib McMurtry” persona until I get home and crack a beer. 😊

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Don’t start the “Ima fuc* up a lib McMurtry” persona until I get home and crack a beer. 😊

He knows better than to sell wolf tickets with me.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Don’t start the “Gonna fuc* up a lib McMurtry” persona until I get home and crack a beer. 😊

Stoll left. We’re a crabby crew

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Stoll left. We’re a crabby crew

He left?

 

[mcmurtry66]

He left?

Gone

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Gone

Seriously?
Did he ban himself?

 

[mcmurtry66]

Seriously?
Did he ban himself?

Yup. Take care and gone.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

1) People usually don’t become permanently dependent on private charity.

2) And the people running the charities aren’t motivated to bring that about.

3) Charitable funds are given voluntarily

Accepting charitable assistance is a far greater motivator to become self-sufficient than an impersonal government distribution.

That charity has a name often a face or personal relationship attached. Most people of good consience wouldn’t want to be reliant on that for too long.

Like when Russel Crowe returns his welfare check at the end of Cinderella Man. People don’t do that in real life because why give your money back to a bloated government? They might do it if they’re receiving assistance from their local parish.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Yup. Take care and gone.

Good for him. New bride, golf, tax season, living a double life (Amish/English). That's quite a bit for anyone's plate.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Good for him. New bride, golf, tax season, living a double life (Amish/English). That's quite a bit for anyone's plate.

Gets old like anything else. I get it. And in fairness I suspect he can only take so much of the English

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Gets old like anything else. I get it. And in fairness I suspect he can only take so much of the English

Just their money.

 

[Morrison]

Gets old like anything else. I get it. And in fairness I suspect he can only take so much of the English

Nah. @UncleMark contacted his employer to let him know Stoll was posting here on his time, so Stoll fired himself.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Just their money.

Eh. I cant think of a more brutal way to make a buck

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Hope Florida scandal puts obstacle in Casey DeSantis' pathway to governor | Opinion

Casey DeSantis' Hope Florida charity embroiled in financial dealings that put a harsh light on her hopes to follow her husband as Florida governor

www.usatoday.com

Keep in mind that DeSantis was the Republicans first choice before Trump showed them how to do it.

Never was 'first choice'.

Never.