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It was a coup.

'Trump' didn't pass anything - and you say I'M the one who doesn't understand how Washington works.

Look, I get you want to blame Trump for not being 'conservative' enough, but his tax cuts were pretty damn conservative and the economy was humming when he was President. Where you get that he's not 'conservative' enough for you is just inexplicable, considering tax reduction policies are a standard for conservatives.

The frustration with the Republican Party is that they collapse when the media criticizes them for their policies. Wimps like Ryan would just go along to get along. Did he even stick around to push conservative policies after he was Speaker? Hell no - he withdrew from politics. What a fighter.....

There is no place in the Trump world for someone like Ryan. That's the problem
 
There is no place in the Trump world for someone like Ryan. That's the problem
Baloney. The problem is Republicans like Ryan who shrink from being labeled as 'mean' when their proposed polices require cost cutting. So they don't fight for anything.
 
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'Trump' didn't pass anything - and you say I'M the one who doesn't understand how Washington works.

Look, I get you want to blame Trump for not being 'conservative' enough, but his tax cuts were pretty damn conservative and the economy was humming when he was President. Where you get that he's not 'conservative' enough for you is just inexplicable, considering tax reduction policies are a standard for conservatives.

The frustration with the Republican Party is that they collapse when the media criticizes them for their policies. Wimps like Ryan would just go along to get along. Did he even stick around to push conservative policies after he was Speaker? Hell no - he withdrew from politics. What a fighter.....
Yes, there are two or three of these squishes infesting this back water board..
 
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So, in order for it to be coup, you and Maureen Dowd must think Biden is competent to run and serve 4 more years if he wins? Because it’s not like she’s taken control now as president.

I’d give this theory credence if Biden was remotely in the ballpark of serving anymore than his January 20th exit date.

He’s fine until Jan 20th and then , magically, he’s unfit?

There has been a lot of pretzel twisting….or maybe it’s nothing more than lying
He's been senile and incapable of being President for years. He was only replaced because they knew he was going to lose. If he was winning he'd still be the nominee. Dems don't give a damn about the country.
 
Oh bullshit. Ryan could have done anything he wanted to - Trump had very few political allies in 2016.

Ryan diddled and didn't get shit done. Instead of working with House members to pass legislation, he whined about Trump. He was a total pussy when it came to the budget. Don't try to paint him as some fiscal conservative now.
You continue your reign as the WC’s foremost bad faith poster.
 
'Trump' didn't pass anything - and you say I'M the one who doesn't understand how Washington works.

Look, I get you want to blame Trump for not being 'conservative' enough, but his tax cuts were pretty damn conservative and the economy was humming when he was President. Where you get that he's not 'conservative' enough for you is just inexplicable, considering tax reduction policies are a standard for conservatives.

The frustration with the Republican Party is that they collapse when the media criticizes them for their policies. Wimps like Ryan would just go along to get along. Did he even stick around to push conservative policies after he was Speaker? Hell no - he withdrew from politics. What a fighter.....
There are several things that need changed to the tax code…neither party has the guts to do so. That includes the Trump-led Republican Party and the Harris-led Democratic Party.

Neither of them have the guts to properly budget and pay for all the “services” they want to bloviate about
 
There are several things that need changed to the tax code…neither party has the guts to do so. That includes the Trump-led Republican Party and the Harris-led Democratic Party.

Neither of them have the guts to properly budget and pay for all the “services” they want to bloviate about
I agree, but that wasn't the discussion.
 
They are both terrible…not a single conservative candidate.

You have a progressive vs old school Democrat
I'm over labels. Yes, I agree with conservative PRINCIPLES, but I'm not a slave to the philosophy.

I like workable solutions. I've seen more workable solutions out of Trump than anyone on the Democrat site.

Trump's philosophy isn't conservative or liberal or libertarian or socialist or communist - it's about finding solutions and MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN (ok, I threw that last part in there just to trigger certain people.
 
I'm over labels. Yes, I agree with conservative PRINCIPLES, but I'm not a slave to the philosophy.

I like workable solutions. I've seen more workable solutions out of Trump than anyone on the Democrat site.

Trump's philosophy isn't conservative or liberal or libertarian or socialist or communist - it's about finding solutions and MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN (ok, I threw that last part in there just to trigger certain people.
He’s the best of the available options….but anyone that thinks he will advocate for small government is kidding themselves

There are people on this board that if Trump walked into the room…they would drop down and suck his d*ck.

There are people on this board that wouldn’t complement anything he says or does even if they agree with the outcome.

It’s asinine.

We have TDS vs Idol worship.
 
He’s the best of the available options….but anyone that thinks he will advocate for small government is kidding themselves

There are people on this board that if Trump walked into the room…they would drop down and suck his d*ck.

There are people on this board that wouldn’t complement anything he says or does even if they agree with the outcome.

It’s asinine.

We have TDS vs Idol worship.
I get you don't like him, but no one here is 'sucking his dick'. You're an educated man - you're not some leftist who loves to use that kind of language.
 
You evidently think he's competent enough to run the country through this year. That's just burying your head in the sand for political purposes. You don't really care if he's competent or not - you just didn't want to lose the next election.
So then, are you suggesting that the country should unbury its head from the sand and force Biden to resign right now and make Harris president immediately?

At this point, why chastise someone for possibly thinking Biden is competent to finish his term? Biden is a lame duck.
 
I get you don't like him, but no one here is 'sucking his dick'. You're an educated man - you're not some leftist who loves to use that kind of language.
That language may not be correct, but there has never been a President in my lifetime with followers so willing to defend him for absolutely everything. It’s cultish and disturbing.
 
For sure. Listen to his speech tonight. He'll be filled with rage and seething with anger and hatred for his hand-picked Vice President and personally-endorsed successor.
He'll be pumped full of happy juice before the speech don't worry.
 
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He'll be pumped full of happy juice before the speech don't worry.
Hilarious that you and Catturd (lol) think the fact that he won't be in Chicago on Thursday is a big deal.

I know where he'll be on January 20 - - - attending Harris' inauguration. Pub leadership foolishly stuck with Trump and they will lose with Trump.
 
Hilarious that you and Catturd (lol) think the fact that he won't be in Chicago on Thursday is a big deal.

I know where he'll be on January 20 - - - attending Harris' inauguration. Pub leadership foolishly stuck with Trump and they will lose with Trump.
Biden quite clearly is not happy about being forced aside. A soft coup would be a fair description. The entire power structure of the Democratic party was turned on him. I don't think he has any love for Harris either which is why he kept her on the shelf his whole presidency.
 
He's been senile and incapable of being President for years. He was only replaced because they knew he was going to lose. If he was winning he'd still be the nominee. Dems don't give a damn about the country.
Oh, they give a damn about the country or they wouldn’t be trying to save us from the hell that is in your corner. The “coup” belief is only going to play in the MAGA camp. Rest of us are okay with what’s happened.
 
Biden quite clearly is not happy about being forced aside. A soft coup would be a fair description. The entire power structure of the Democratic party was turned on him. I don't think he has any love for Harris either which is why he kept her on the shelf his whole presidency.
Biden gave the worst performance, by far, in the history of televised presidential debates. The writing was immediately on the wall. He understands that but of course isn't thrilled about it. No one wants to cede the power of the presidency. That's why it's happened only three times previously (Truman, LBJ and Nixon) in the past 100 years.
 
Biden quite clearly is not happy about being forced aside. A soft coup would be a fair description. The entire power structure of the Democratic party was turned on him. I don't think he has any love for Harris either which is why he kept her on the shelf his whole presidency.
See two of our most brilliant posters are not only posting the same load of crap, but relying on Posobiec's usual level of acumen to support their position... Let's for a second adopt the blind squirrel/nutl theory and suppose JP is right about Biden disliking Harris...

The fact remains that even if Biden somehow resents Harris over being "forced out", he chose of his own volition to ENDORSE her. Even though that was not necessary and some of the people who "pushed" him out likely would have preferred, (due to their own political aspirations), an open convention, that is not the path Biden chose.

Instead Biden chose to put the woman he supposedly "despises" into the catbird seat in 2028 to secure a 2nd term based on her benefits of incumbency of being both a VP and a POTUS. Now I know in the midst of a slimeball like Trump and his unwillingness to do what is best for both his country and party that degree of service is unfathomable, esp to Trumpers...

But Biden has an understanding of historythat Trump's 5th grade level brain can't comprehend. He is aware of the 13 keys and the role incumbency plays in the success/failure of the WH party. By withdrawing from the race Biden eliminated the incumbency benefit for the Dems.

But he definitely didn't want to see the Dems compound that error (and lose a 2nd key) by engaging in a contemptuous convention brawl, say like 1968 or 2016. So if he does hate Harris he hates Trump more (like many of us do) so he still took the course of action that would limit the damage from his withdrawl...

The reality is that an open seat with no incumbency compounded by a contested primary has been the death knell for the WH party in every election since 1900.Not a single WH party (Dem or GOP) has been able to retain the WH with that dynamic in place.

Clinton came close to bucking that trend in 2016 by winning the popular vote. But ultimately the bitter primay battle between her and Bernie and her own lack of popularity left the party fractured and millions of Bernie supporters in key swing states either staying home or voting for 3rd party candidates. And as a tragic result we got Trump.

The reality is that had Biden been the nominee in 2016, he would have won with Obama's blessing and a united party. My own theory is that deep down Biden knows and accepts this and it is a huge part of his abhorrence of Trump. Deep down he blames himself for not running (for personal reasons) and Trump being thrust upon us.

I believe that he was resolved not to make the same mistake twice (of allowing the party to be fractured). And he knew that was exactly what an "open" convention would bring. He probably didn't anticipate how quickly KH would turn the race on it's ear, even before the convention and put herself in position to win pretty handily. But if he does "detest" her he showed a level of service to the country someone like Trump is utterly incapable of...
 
Biden gave the worst performance, by far, in the history of televised presidential debates. The writing was immediately on the wall. He understands that but of course isn't thrilled about it. No one wants to cede the power of the presidency. That's why it's happened only three times previously (Truman, LBJ and Nixon) in the past 100 years.
Yeah and why did the Dems insist on a debate in June? They knew.
 
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Yeah and why did the Dems insist on a debate in June? They knew.
But it was a huge risk to oust Biden and pick Harris when she practically finished dead last in the 2020 primaries. You can’t predict or manufacture such excitement from your party in this situation. Once they got lucky and her popularity soared the right yelled, COUP!
 
How do you constantly get it wrong? None of that is emotion. Anti-NATO is not a talking point. For one thing. It has been reported that he told his senior military advisors he wanted to pull out of NATO in 2020. I know it’s true because I heard it directly from one of the attendees of the meeting. He was talked into waiting until after the election. That’s a reason to be thankful he lost.

“Scorched earth bargaining” is a stupid Trump supporter talking point from those that know pulling out of NATO would be a huge mistake. Besides, who the hell was he bargaining with? Dumb.
NATO needs to go away. Ron Paul was right.
 
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NATO needs to go away. Ron Paul was right.
Its time for a total reorg ! It's became just another money laundering scheme for the legacy republican, John McAin / Cheney members. I don't know anyone in that party ( :) ), but they are fighting like hell to not lose their gravy train. They have taken such control that the Marxist democrats are pissed because they are loosing some of their $$. Now that we have the legacy Pubes fighting the Marxist Dem's to who get's all of the under the table money... MAYBE, we can finally open peoples eyes before they are invited to a great working vacation with free cattle car transportation.
Cheney pubes and Marxist Dem's will not go quietly into the night. We will all pay, for allowing our servants, become controllers of the information. I sure hope that you all are ready.
 
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Well there was this from the New York Times:


Don't really care what they did to Joe (he deserves whatever he gets) aside from the fact that what they did was clearly only about retaining Power...
Y-A-W-N.

And your opposition to "what they did" is clearly only about taking power. So what?

Face it -- you guys moaned and whined about Joe Biden's ability to serve as President, but you were pitifully unprepared for what to do if Biden resigned. Biden's resignation caught you weaklings totally unprepared.

Who would entrust the launch codes to any such ridiculously unprepared Republicans after seeing how silly you look after Biden resigned?

Biden surprised you. Why won't Putin and the rest of the world surprise you too? And, Putin will love it when you guys automatically call him a progressive, socialist and communist like you do everyone else.. Enjoy the convention.
 
Yeah and why did the Dems insist on a debate in June? They knew.
Why did the Republicans keep insisting for months that Biden was incapable of serving as President but did not plan for it even though they knew he might resign ??

Isn't the Republicans' failure to prepare for this just an example of their unreliability to implement their own policy proposals?
 
Its time for a total reorg ! It's became just another money laundering scheme for the legacy republican, John McAin / Cheney members. I don't know anyone in that party ( :) ), but they are fighting like hell to not lose their gravy train. They have taken such control that the Marxist democrats are pissed because they are loosing some of their $$. Now that we have the legacy Pubes fighting the Marxist Dem's to who get's all of the under the table money... MAYBE, we can finally open peoples eyes before they are invited to a great working vacation with free cattle car transportation.
Cheney pubes and Marxist Dem's will not go quietly into the night. We will all pay, for allowing our servants, become controllers of the information. I sure hope that you all are ready.
Wow. Was that post a parody of yourself? Good one !!
 
Its time for a total reorg ! It's became just another money laundering scheme for the legacy republican, John McAin / Cheney members. I don't know anyone in that party ( :) ), but they are fighting like hell to not lose their gravy train. They have taken such control that the Marxist democrats are pissed because they are loosing some of their $$. Now that we have the legacy Pubes fighting the Marxist Dem's to who get's all of the under the table money... MAYBE, we can finally open peoples eyes before they are invited to a great working vacation with free cattle car transportation.
Cheney pubes and Marxist Dem's will not go quietly into the night. We will all pay, for allowing our servants, become controllers of the information. I sure hope that you all are ready.
What in the world are you saying?
 
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