It’s back to being a great November
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I’d still say that Harris is a slight favorite.
But it was always going to be close and come down to MI, WI, and PA. In most of the likely scenarios, if Trump wins one of those he’ll win. As of now, his best chance of the 3 looks to be PA.
But he needs to watch out in NC, GA, and AZ. He’s probably a bit ahead in those. But I could easily see any of them going to Harris.
But it was always going to be close and come down to MI, WI, and PA. In most of the likely scenarios, if Trump wins one of those he’ll win. As of now, his best chance of the 3 looks to be PA.
But he needs to watch out in NC, GA, and AZ. He’s probably a bit ahead in those. But I could easily see any of them going to Harris.
I guess Trump’s FEMA lies and racist immigrant rhetoric is working. Who knew?
The Harris shine is fading and people are recognizing she’d be awful
And Kamala’s lies on her flip flops not working now.
Trump seems to be tied or even ahead in recent PA polls which I did not think was realistically in play this go around. Figured he would lose PA and have to walk a tight rope with the rest of the battleground states.
That can of course be offset if he loses NC. Of course if Trump support in the battlegrounds is being under surveyed yet again he could win this thing relatively easy.
That can of course be offset if he loses NC. Of course if Trump support in the battlegrounds is being under surveyed yet again he could win this thing relatively easy.
She’s brain dead.
Harris slammed for pledging millions to Lebanon as North Carolina suffers
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harris-slammed-pledging-millions-lebanon-north-carolina-suffers
Harris slammed for pledging millions to Lebanon as North Carolina suffers
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harris-slammed-pledging-millions-lebanon-north-carolina-suffers
The reality is immigration has been a net negative for the working class and poor. The left dismiss them as racists and dummies is why Harris is losing. Sort of what you’re doing.
What a serious interview. Lol
Alex Cooper’s ‘Call Her Daddy’ Faces Backlash Over ‘Propaganda’ Harris Interview
Some fans of the hugely popular podcast are angry that the vice president did not address the devastation caused by Hurricane Helene.
www.thedailybeast.com
The market is extremely small, but he's up by a good margin in NC, GA & AZ. I kind of want to bet on Harris to win Michigan and Wisconsin. It's basically -110 right now.
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Trump will be worse. I promise you inflation will be just as bad if not worse under Trump. The debt level will explode too. Plus he will no longer have a strong cabinet like the first term. People like Tillerson, Clark, Mattis, etc. would not consider it.
Should be fun to watch. I'll look forward to the crying and complaining when the great business man is unable to come to the rescue.
Sorry, the independents who are going to decide this are educated and more likely to vote than the poor and working class. Besides, this is Trump rhetoric, because he’s desperate. He’ll say anything.
“…evidence suggests immigrants help the overall economy. And, at a high level, they aren't taking jobs from or reducing the wages of U.S.-born (or so-called native) workers, according to economists who study the impact of immigration on the labor market.”
Are immigrants taking jobs from 'native' U.S. workers? Here's what economists say
There's a strong consensus that immigrants benefit the job market and economy. But there's a heated debate about wage impact for a subset of workers.
The debt level is likely to explode whoever wins. Entitlement financing is eroding and the will to do anything about it is non-existent.
Deficit will be $2T for this FY. And there’s nothing extraordinary going on.
Sorry, the independents who are going to decide this are educated and more likely to vote than the poor and working class. Besides, this is Trump rhetoric, because he’s desperate. He’ll say anything.
“…evidence suggests immigrants help the overall economy. And, at a high level, they aren't taking jobs from or reducing the wages of U.S.-born (or so-called native) workers, according to economists who study the impact of immigration on the labor market.”
Are immigrants taking jobs from 'native' U.S. workers? Here's what economists say
There's a strong consensus that immigrants benefit the job market and economy. But there's a heated debate about wage impact for a subset of workers.www.cnbc.com
It'd be nice if the article and the link in the article about the "evidence" didn’t conflate illegal and legal.
Feel free to explain how illegal immigrants don't suppress wages? Also the "help the overall economy" equals boosts total GDP. That doesn't necessarily help the overall economy if they are net takers from Government, which a majority of them are because they are lower income workers.Sorry, the independents who are going to decide this are educated and more likely to vote than the poor and working class. Besides, this is Trump rhetoric, because he’s desperate. He’ll say anything.
“…evidence suggests immigrants help the overall economy. And, at a high level, they aren't taking jobs from or reducing the wages of U.S.-born (or so-called native) workers, according to economists who study the impact of immigration on the labor market.”
Are immigrants taking jobs from 'native' U.S. workers? Here's what economists say
There's a strong consensus that immigrants benefit the job market and economy. But there's a heated debate about wage impact for a subset of workers.
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In his book, Trump's big advice about getting your way during negotiating was "You've got to be willing to walk away from the deal" (paraphrased).
We saw how well that strategy worked when Trump's proposal to amend the Affordable Care Act failed by a couple votes in the Senate in 2017. Although Trump's main campaign claim in 2016 was that he would reform healthcare, he walked away and never tried again. Now, 8 years later, Trump still doesn't have a plan to reform healthcare.
No matter what Trump says, there is no reason to think he has the necessary skills (or desire) to shepherd a difficult bill through Congress.
Trump’s Plan Boosts Budget Deficits by $7.5 Trillion, Double Harris’s Proposal
NC was slow in announcing a winner last time and I expect they will be the last to report, based on who needs the EC votes.....
You don’t double down on terrible policies. If trump does nothing but golf he will be a marked improvement. No one is worse than progressives
Hell, he was too big a wussy to sit down with 60 Minutes. They really exposed him for the weak pathetic man he is. Won't face Kamala and now afraid of 60 Minutes. He has no real skills other than the art of BS.
I’m sure these “plans” will just cruise through Congress.
Pay no attention to that nonsense. None of it will come to pass. It never does. What matters most fiscally is what (if anything) is done with entitlements.
Did you bother to read the whole article?Sorry, the independents who are going to decide this are educated and more likely to vote than the poor and working class. Besides, this is Trump rhetoric, because he’s desperate. He’ll say anything.
“…evidence suggests immigrants help the overall economy. And, at a high level, they aren't taking jobs from or reducing the wages of U.S.-born (or so-called native) workers, according to economists who study the impact of immigration on the labor market.”
Are immigrants taking jobs from 'native' U.S. workers? Here's what economists say
There's a strong consensus that immigrants benefit the job market and economy. But there's a heated debate about wage impact for a subset of workers.
I predict 269-269 in the EC, 25-25 in the house delegation, and Hell in the Cell at MSG!!!
Yesterday she was posting abou “trump’s project 2025.” She is the perfect combination of zero morals and dumb as a box of rocks. The absolute Fing worst. And her little troll vp lol. The pride of Chadon st 🤣 talking about the 1st amendment. My god. Dual airbags.
I’ll tell ya this right here stoll. That dipshit wins I will zone out of politics for four years AND leave the water cooler!!!! WOW WOW WOW THAT’S BIG!!!! I love this place. THAT’S BREAKING NEWS!!!!
The saddest part of this duopolistic shitshow we've been presented as a "choice" isn't that both candidates suck (that's a given), but that only one was duly chosen by the electorate. For all Trump's faults, and they are legion, he went through the primary process and was chosen by the people as the Republican nominee. Harris was able to circumvent all of that. Short of Biden's death/incapacitation, this was quite literally and unequivocally her only path to the presidency. There is no way she wins a primary against an open field to even become the nominee.
Say what you will, but Trump had to climb that mountain. Harris was dropped off at the top.
Say what you will, but Trump had to climb that mountain. Harris was dropped off at the top.
Finally I have a reason to vote.
The history of the cooler has shown that the most prolific posting is generated by the opposition party.
I genuinely believe she’s a moron and have zero interest in hearing progressive bs. I’ll avoid politics. Turn up my sports and reality tv involvement
Not this time. If Trump wins, I'm going to be like that Dad who recites their son's entire stat line at the Boys Club game.
Crazy, I was thinking about exact sane thing before logging on.
I was thinking about my goodby PMs to @UncleMark @TheOriginalHappyGoat telling them I loved them through all our acrimony.
If that vapid idiot Harris wins you and me will leave this stupid board like Thelma and Louise!!!!
And as for mark and goat. We’ll leave them like our exes left us!!! WITH FLYING F*UCK YOUS!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOHOOOOOO LFG !!!!!!!!
So when Stevenson was the Dem nominee in 1952 (only 3 yrs before I was born) was he "dropped off at the top of the mountain" ? Primary voters in 12 of 15 primaries (barely 1/4 of states even had Primaries) chose Kefauver. Stevenson didn't even run. And yet Kefauver was unable to secure the majority of delegates needed for the nomination on 2 convention ballots. At that point Stevenson's name was thrown into the mix, and emerged as the party's nominee...
Notice how that's only 70 or so years ago, and how the primary process only involved a minority of actual voters? Here's another thing about primaries,the average voter doesn't participate.. When I went to the Elections board and offered my services they didn't know what camp to put me in because I hadn't ever voted in a primary. Me the person who many on this board consider a raging Dem had never voted in a Dem Primary even though I have identified as a Dem since Nixon/Watergate.
Now whether or not I chose to exercise my right to join the minority and vote in a primary, I always had the choice to vote for my party's nominee, or the other party or just not vote. After voting for Clinton twice I did not vote in 2000. Nothing against Gore, I wanted him to win. But I just didn't vote for whatever reason. I couldn't even tell you who participated in the Dem primary (without looking it up) because I just wasn't that interested in voting in Indiana. So any idiotic Dems that decide that KH is not the legitimate nominee have the ability to vote or not vote, or even to vote for Trump.
But to claim that somehow people were disenfranchised because (like every POTUS candidate before 1916) Harris didn't run in primaries, seems pretty ludicrous if you have a basic comprehension of US electoral history. The primary system originated with Progressives around 1916, so I guess the fact that I'm not enamored with the Primary system makes me anti-Progressive? I just don't get fired up about voting in the "dress rehearsal". And primaries, because they cater to the most radical elements of both parties, actually can cause more harm than good.
No offense, but whenever I see potential Trump voters raise this issue I envision someone who is trying to justify to their conscious their own willingness to vote for a convicted felon, twice impeached insurrectionist, adjudicated sexual abuser and serial fraudster. I have no doubt that as a whole the citizenry will reject that notion, and feel pretty confidant that will be true in the swing states as well. But we won't know till November...
Cos, your bringing up the Stevenson v. Eisenhower 1952 election along with today's emphasis on primaries v. party conventions brings up an interesting conversation in my view.
The 1952 Republican convention was a close battle between conservative Robert Taft and the popular WWII hero Dwight Eisenhower.
The interesting topic being, do the MAGA Pubs today resemble the conservative Taft supporters of yester year in terms of being anti-progressives, anti government spending, somewhat isolationist, etc.?
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