IU 35
OSU 31
Rourke has fun in his return to the state of Ohio.
OSU 31
Rourke has fun in his return to the state of Ohio.
Indiana/Ohio State Prediction Thread
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As much as I would like to see a Hoosier win, I just don't see us beating OSU at their place. OSU 34 IU 17. IUbeats Purdue the following week 77-0!
Listen. Buck the nuts. Uh-hiyah State sux.
Indiana 39
Uh-hiyah State 30
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Indiana 39
Uh-hiyah State 30
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IU 21
OSU 16
Defenses rule. One of our TDs is a pick-6.
OSU 16
Defenses rule. One of our TDs is a pick-6.
IU 21
OSU 17
OSU is putting a lot of pressure on themselves to win this game. "A must win"; "A loss and we're out", etc. Per Cig and players, it's just another game, with same process as usual. In my view, too much pressure for their QB to handle.
We haven't played anybody with OSU's talent this year, nor have we played in a place like the Horseshoe. Too much to overcome:
OSU: 34
IU:13
OSU: 34
IU:13
Tricky situation for them. Moore was acting head coach last year during the title run when Coach Khaki was suspended. He held them together to ensure an undefeated season. They went the Bill Lynch route circa 2007. It came down to: do you boot the guy who was the interim last year success or boot a guy and go totally different direction with a new regime?
I’ve instructed my wife to hide my rose-colored glasses, on purpose.
Ohio State 34 - IU 14
Which IU team shows up, the one that struggled against Northeastern and Michigan, or the one that annihilated a poor Nebraska team? I expect the former. My negativity is a personal defense mechanism designed to ameliorate the depression of the broken-hearted, having lost this highly anticipated Buck-nut game.
Ohio State 34 - IU 14
Which IU team shows up, the one that struggled against Northeastern and Michigan, or the one that annihilated a poor Nebraska team? I expect the former. My negativity is a personal defense mechanism designed to ameliorate the depression of the broken-hearted, having lost this highly anticipated Buck-nut game.
Folks, GeddyHoosier hasn't predicted an Indiana win all season (0-10)--reverse psychology means Indiana WINS!
We hope Geddy predicts IU to lose in the soccer tourney too.Folks, GeddyHoosier hasn't predicted an Indiana win all season (0-10)--reverse psychology means Indiana WINS!
Go back and watch. All teams do but not to the extent as Michigan does. They don’t get called for it either. It’s the same in basketball when you play certain teams that get away with shady plays. Like Wisconsin and NW. the refs let it go.
I honestly believe that its a situation where the refs are posed with calling fouls or penalties on nearly every possession...or largely letting it go, and only then calling the most obvious or egregious penalties. For B10 bball, I think this phenomena started with the great Izzo 2000 ish teams basically becoming football teams. Refs making the decision to allow it rather than foul everyone out, and the entire league having to adjust... Its why the B10 has the reputation of being "too physical" nowadays.
That’s exactly it but not all teams will get away with it.
OSU 34 - Indy 21. The Hoosiers keep it close the 1st half but....
My theory is not all teams are as "committed to it". When the refs or officials call things early, they back off, adjust. Football programs like Harbaugh/Michigan don't adjust, they force the refs to adjust. They might have some games here and there where they get called for a couple early...but if anything, they ramp up the holds...certainly don't back off.
Officials are often looking for things that "jump out" to them. In a Michigan football game, jersey grabbing, even outside the shoulders isn't something that "jumps out". In a Wisconsin basketball game, illegal screens don't "jump out", grabs and hacks don't jump out, because its literally every possession.
ugh. The bell curve is it's just as likely we L by +20. as it is get a W.
*this started out short and grew and grew.... humor me.
Stats are very comparable however there as a couple of stand outs, specifically OSU's defense.
Red Zone
Passing yards per game and Sacks
Considering our two schedules, i would assume our numbers are somewhat padded. Let's face it, we've faced the lower 1/2 of the B18 so the stats favor OSU so overall, I discount our stats a bit.
But (rose coloring) we've out scored common opponents by 103, vs OSU's +59 ( Nwstn, MSU, Nebr). So there's that.
Other factors:
OSU is dinged and lost a key player, while IU is mended and now rested +IU
OSU has Day, IU has Cig. +IU
OSU has home field and preforms well at home. BUT IU had a bye week and time to plot = a wash
OSU has seen the tough challenge and tested multiple times, IU has been discounted and disrespected multiple times and has the "chip on the shoulder" = a wash
OSU has weaker kicking %, IU has a good FG % but in a small sample size. +IU
Overall, I think OSU very talented but I also think they are beatable. It's up to our Offensive Line period. Keep them off QB and get a handful of +10 yd carries.
If we can keep our offense on the field, and not have Michigan type showing, we keep this close and win a low scoring game on field goals.
IU 16
OSU 14
*this started out short and grew and grew.... humor me.
Stats are very comparable however there as a couple of stand outs, specifically OSU's defense.
Red Zone
| IU RZ Scoring % | 97.92% (#1) | Opp RZ Scoring % | 85.71% (#73) | OSU RZ Scoring % | 97.37% (#2) | Opp RZ Scoring % | 52.17% (#1) |
Passing yards per game and Sacks
| IU Pass Yards/Game | 265.2 (#30) | Opp Pass Yards/Game | 191.6 (#27) | OSU Pass Yards/Game | 267.6 (#27) | Opp Pass Yards/Game | 160.1 (#5) | |
| IU Int Thrown % | 1.95% (#36) | Opp Int Thrown % | 3.08% (#45) | OSU Int Thrown % | 1.75% (#21) | Opp Int Thrown % | 2.65% (#64) | |
| IU QB Sacked % | 4.10% (#30) | Sack % | 7.89% (#26) | OSU QB Sacked % | 4.04% (#28) | Sack % | 10.20% (#5) |
Considering our two schedules, i would assume our numbers are somewhat padded. Let's face it, we've faced the lower 1/2 of the B18 so the stats favor OSU so overall, I discount our stats a bit.
But (rose coloring) we've out scored common opponents by 103, vs OSU's +59 ( Nwstn, MSU, Nebr). So there's that.
Other factors:
OSU is dinged and lost a key player, while IU is mended and now rested +IU
OSU has Day, IU has Cig. +IU
OSU has home field and preforms well at home. BUT IU had a bye week and time to plot = a wash
OSU has seen the tough challenge and tested multiple times, IU has been discounted and disrespected multiple times and has the "chip on the shoulder" = a wash
OSU has weaker kicking %, IU has a good FG % but in a small sample size. +IU
Overall, I think OSU very talented but I also think they are beatable. It's up to our Offensive Line period. Keep them off QB and get a handful of +10 yd carries.
If we can keep our offense on the field, and not have Michigan type showing, we keep this close and win a low scoring game on field goals.
IU 16
OSU 14
No prediction but I delayed a haircut appt to next week after seeing that my last haircut was prior to the first game of the season.
OSU. 28
IU. 17
Offense looked less than stellar against Michigan..
And in the horseshoe...I'll be interested if our Hoosiers are still in the CFP. ..Or heading to a bowl game ..Next Tuesday..
IU. 17
Offense looked less than stellar against Michigan..
And in the horseshoe...I'll be interested if our Hoosiers are still in the CFP. ..Or heading to a bowl game ..Next Tuesday..
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My fear exactly. Size, strength and depth will wear us down in the second half. Hopefully we’ll overcome the advantage OSU has up front but imo if we lose it will be in the trenches.
You’ve been conditioned. We actually are in the plus in the 4th quarter. We are #1 in 4th quarter differential. Thats not insignificant.
I'm actually not worried about OSU outmanning us physically, in the traditional sense that you're referring to. I think the only signs, all year, that we're susceptible to that came for about 24 minutes in the second half against Michigan. And I think that happened due to a very specific few things...
1. We had to replace one of our best linemen the day before the game. If pure overall physicality were an issue, Michigan would have given us problems from the get go. They didn't, we dominated them in the first half. If not for a bogus offensive PI call, we likely would have been up 21-3 on them at halftime.
2. The main struggle that happened was 2 elite, All American level defensive tackles getting to us for a while, up the middle, in the 2nd half. The worst place a pocket passing quarterback like Rourke can get pressured is up the middle. Again, remember we had less than a day to replace one of our top linemen. Ohio State's defensive tackles are good, but they're not as good as Michigans. And give Shanahan and Bostad a full 2 weeks to prepare with the new line...I don't think giving up pressure up the middle will be a glaring weakness on Saturday.
3. Despite this, the game only got close because of 1 uncharacteristic bad mistake by Rourke...and 2 very uncharacteristic drops by Sarratt.
Further, Michigan's running game, while not quite as dynamic as Ohio State's, is still pretty darn good. We shut it down. Michigan State's is good, we shut it down. Washington's had been pretty good, shut it down. Nebraska's had been decent, shut it down. I'm not saying we'll shut down Ludkin and Henderson, maybe far from it. But nothing from what they've done and what we've done points to them dominating our DLine with their OLine and RBs.
My two biggest concerns are Will Howards passing ability. And overall OSU's big play capabilities. We've been prone to stretches where we get picked apart through the air. Washington's QB had success for a while, MSU QB had some early successes, even NW's QB got us for some chunk yardage and some points. Our defense has been opportunistic with turnovers, and our front 7 has been really good, so we've overcome that to take games over. Against an offense and well balanced and explosive as OSU's, Howard scares me a bit. And then Ludkin/Henderson's big play capability.
If we are able to stay away from giving up any big 50+ yard TD plays, and if Rourke protects the ball, I think we're in this game until the end...if not control the game for long stretches.
That’s true with the exception of Michigan and OSU has similar if not better depth.
One thing I can’t stop thinking about is just how sharp we were coming off the bye week against Nebraska.
Obviously Ohio State isn’t Nebraska, but I expect us to still play very well.
Obviously Ohio State isn’t Nebraska, but I expect us to still play very well.
A couple things that help me be more comfortable that this won't be a huge issue...2nd half against Washington. Washington isn't Michigan or OSU, but they're pretty darn close in terms of size and physicality. DeBoer didn't leave the cupboard bare when he left, and most people don't realize how physical his team was last year. We completely dominated and manhandled them in that 2nd half of that game. We ran the ball down their throats. Michigan couldn't do it to them.
And then Michigan State. Not a great team, for sure, but they have some size and talent. And they had been running the ball all over teams they had played in the recent weeks leading up to our game with them..even Oregon recently before we played them. We demolished them in every facet of the game. The gap in many areas between MSU and IU was greater, visally apparently greater, than the gap was between Oregon and MSU, and even OSU and MSU earlier in the year.
We obviously might lose Saturday. We could lose by double digits. But I honestly don't think its because Ohio State is much better. They're Ohio State...they have one of the most talented rosters they've ever had...most people have them as the best overall football team in the country...losing to them shouldn't become some sort of huge indictment on IU football. I know it will with many. But it shouldn't. And I SERIOUSLY doubt we'll get physically dominated on Saturday.
I agree with you on basketball but believe that Gene Keady started it in the Big Ten before Izzo was there. He was a football player and brought that mentality to Purdue.
Not so sure - probably not - that OSU still has an advantage with their OL vs Indy's DL with them losing their starting LT and Center for the remainder of the year just in the last week or so. And their OL was already the weak link on their team. This could be interesting
Now I'll keep calling Indiana INDY. Pi$s you off, does it ? Go INDY, beat the Suckeyes
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