I hope a bomb is dropped on the NRA convention.
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The first paragraph of the post you responded to was actually quoting Van's post. I made the mistake of not putting in the quotes, so that's my fault.
Uvalde mass shooter was not confronted by police before he entered the school, Texas official says
The 18-year-old suspect who killed 21 people at a school in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday was not confronted by police before he entered the school, a Texas law enforcement official said, contradicting earlier comments from leaders and raising further questions about the police response to the massacre.www.cnn.com
According to reports, Robb did NOT have an armed resource officer on site.
As I have posted before, the Uvalde school system has its own police department with a chief, detective, and 4 officers for 10 schools (I've heard it's 8 schools, but I found 10 listed on a website).
So there are armed officers but not enough to cover all the schools all the time.
Didn't read rest of your post. Too damn long and I already know it will be filled with half truths and inaccuracies.
And since the DPS and Law Enforcement revised their accounts and now say there was no SRO to encounter the gunman, you're correct to point that out. But I hardly think my initial claim based on the earlier accounts they provided qualifies as me getting the facts wrong.
Initially they claimed the SRO exchanged gunfire with the gunman. Later they revised it to say he encountered him but did not shoot at him. Now they've revised it to say there wasn't even an SRO on site...
They also initially said he crashed his car and immediately ran inside the school. But now they say he crashed his car at 11:28am, fired two shots at people outside of a funeral home, and walked around the outside of the school firing shots at the school, and only entered the school about 12 mins after the original crash.
Posting about this incident and relying on the Texas DPS timeline of events, is about as accurate as posting at halftime of the IU/Syracuse game and describing it as a game in which IU lost in a rout.
Yes. What is your point? I relayed the current info. That info was public prior to Cosmic's post of disinformation.
If new info is shared, I will retract my post.
Again, I like how you refer to these children as babies yet support liberals who are fine with aborting the day of birth and those are somehow not babies.
But what about…. Not dealing with your abortion ranting tonight. Sorry you can’t recognize the difference.
I was merely commenting on the fact it’s hard to know what to believe about the resource officer because the story has changed so often. No need to take it so personally.
Just what is the difference? We deal with your abortion ranting all the time . So tell us what the difference is.
I doubt you'll ever find a specific post of mine endorsing the defunding of police, but you're welcome to do a search and see what turns up. And you might not be aware but 40% of Uvalde's town budget goes to the police, so it doesn't appear as if they are underfunded...
And equating "all Democrats" with defunding the police would seem to be painting with a pretty broad stroke. It worked to some extent and helped get downline GOP candidates elected, but I'm not sure how accurate it was...
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I wonder what our country would be like if we banned all guns and all abortions
Here's the thing. You capitalized it which to me is emphasis in a fact.
If you would just act like a reasonable person and acknowledge that maybe increased school security is a good idea.
But no, you had to emphasize, in caps no less, that the idea of increased school security DID NOT WORK.
Just like the Grassley Cruz amendment. YOU HAD TO PROVE ME WRONG. Linked all sorts of stuff. Copied and pasted all you could. Probably some videos as well. But never read the amendment and what it proposed. Just relied on politifact and some articles and ran with it.
I don't think Pubs walk on water. In fact, the party is a true disappointment to me. But Dems are not any better. Both parties, IMHO, want an issue instead of a solution. And this is why we need term limits, again, IMHO.
Other than my reliance on Texas DPS's claim that an SRO exchanged fire with the gunman, what other "disinformation" did my post contain?
I try to argue in good faith and rarely post without some sort of evidence to back up any statements I made which I consider factual...
So I just went back and reread my post, and aside from the SRO issue I don't see anything that qualifies as false or disinformation. I said that the Topps shooter shot and killed an armed security guard (who btw was cited for his heroism) and I also noted that the Stoneman school in Parkland actually had an armed security guard on duty...
You may disagree with any opinions I posted, but that would not seem to qualify as "disinformation". But if you can stomach actually reading my post and want to list the "disinformation" I posted as well as the evidence that refutes it, I'll be glad to read the evidence...
Personally? Not at all.
But I have got to know, at what point in time does a fetus change to baby? Mayor Adam's says up until the day of birth. But what if the fetus/baby is out of the womb but still connected by the umbilical cord? Can that fetus/baby be aborted? What is acceptable?
You're wasting your time. Cosmic hates cops. Thinks they are racist to the person. Only reads shit that reinforces his warped beliefs. He's not worth the time. His mind is closed
Start a new thread with your nonsense if you want yet another abortion thread.
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I hope a bomb is dropped on the NRA convention.
Is that a thread that really should be taken seriously? If so OP should have some black SUVs on his front lawn.Obviously you get really riled up when people present facts you don't want to hear. So you come up with ways to avoid answering the questions brought up by your abortion rants. Is it easier for you to answer in a new thread? Well then let's start one.
The safest place for a child is the mother's womb..
First, I stated I did not read all your post as it was too long. But the armed resource officer info had been out there long before you posted at noonish today. So, that is your first piece of either misinformation or disinformation. I am going with disinformation since 1) you used it emphatically as if it were fact, and 2) current info was easily available.
Second, again, (geez why do I have to keep posting the same stuff), I stated that you did not correctly summarize the Grassley Cruz amendment. I posted a response to you...twice. I don't care if you ignore it. But you original post on the topic was misleading, at best.
Can we not have a conversation here? Or reply to my other posts in the abortion threads if you wish. No reason to hide or avoid answering. I'll gladly answer any question, any thread, any time.
I know. But if no one challenges him, he becomes emboldened. I am not trying to change his mind, only be less hardened.
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I am 100% serious in stating that this Is the greatest unintentional humor post of all time. Congrats…🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's unbelievable. If he's laughing while he writes about good faith and evidence it'd be funny. But it's not sarcasm. It's mental
Hate?? But he knows where the feed trough is, and is first in line and would actually shoot anyone trying to skip in line to get his $$$ feed.
He'll be a representative soon.
A dude who can’t go to Walmart without packing heat=mental problems.
I thought I asked it before, but seem to not be able to find it now.
Will UTFO be able to pass a background check now, with having posted this wish? Should this be a dis qualifier? Should this throw a red flag warning and trigger the feds to raid him at 4AM?
Hopefully I will be able to find this question tomorrow, unlike the first one.... Not point accusations at a certain cloven hoofed MOD, but if the hoof fits...
Will UTFO be able to pass a background check now, with having posted this wish? Should this be a dis qualifier? Should this throw a red flag warning and trigger the feds to raid him at 4AM?
Hopefully I will be able to find this question tomorrow, unlike the first one.... Not point accusations at a certain cloven hoofed MOD, but if the hoof fits...
Yes semiautomatic assault rifles designed and built for only one purpose, to kill humans quickly and in large numbers. Zero reason to have these on the streets.
I honestly think there might be some truth to that. While I don’t understand the need/want to own a gun, I do know people who check all the boxes on “responsible” gun ownership and I don’t think those people are bad people. Some of them are family. There is a guy I literally start 3 to 4 days a week with in my early morning running group I think the world of.
That said, I’m frustrated with gun violence and no meaningful action to curb it happening. I do think extreme measures are in order. I think our baseline concerning gun ownership is off and needs calibrated. Our current baseline of its every person’s right to extremely easy access to guns isn’t a good jumping off point and the possibility of “responsible” gun owners having to deal with ramifications of much stricter laws needs to be on the table. At this point it really isn’t. At least not seriously.
I own two guns and don't think we need to give them up. The actions needed to take a big chunk out of the carnage would have no impact on normal responsible gun ownership for sport or home defense.
Money, power and politics are in the way and that is a formidable three-headed monster.
I wondered about that too. I'm guessing that the air conditioner wasn't working properly for that class room.
"Before you would allow them to be armed they should have to be willing to pass a psych eval, a firearms training course and an emergency first aid course... Along with a blind evaluation from their peers as to their responsibility and reliability..."
Beyond the fact that teachers are already underpaid and many of the same people arguing for arming them, belong to the same sort of group that attacked them at heated school board meetings and rallies for promoting CRT, and lately has been labelling them as "perverts" and "groomers"...
Do you realize that you're advocating for teachers to get more specialized training than is required of the average gun owner? Including the 17 yr old loner who despite being labelled the "next school shooter" by his co workers and others in town was able to walk into a gun shop on his 18th birthday and purchase an AR-15 or two?
This kid worked at Wendys and openly boasted to co-workers who already felt he was unsafe and creepy, that he was saving up money to buy guns and ammo. He was known for being a social outcast, had reportedly got in at least 5 fights at school, posted videos of himself yelling at his mother, and the cops had even been called to his mom's house to investigate suspected domestic violence. People also mentioned that he used to egg cars and shoot a bb gun at people...
It's a small town, you'd think that a background check would have uncovered some of the multiple post mortem reports of people who if asked might have expressed the idea that he should not be allowed to possess the sort of weapons he was able to spend $4000 or so on.
But the NRA is opposed to things like Red flag laws or uniform background checks, because the politically active minority of gun owners who drive policy oppose them also. What if every legal gun dealer was required to sign some sort of affidavit acknowledging that they checked the background of every recipient of a gun they sold in a legal transaction- you think there might be an incentive to ensure that they weren't helping to arm a psychopath? Maybe a 2 week waiting period where questions could have been asked around about Ramos from people in town, at Wendys, the school he had quit after several incidents, his family- wouldn't that have made some sense?
Texas school shooter got job at Wendy's to save up $4K for guns
Salvador Ramos, 18, worked at Wendy's to save money to purchase the assault weapons he used to shoot up a Texas elementary school on Tuesday. He quit after earning the money.
Why would you advocate such seemingly common sense measures for teachers prior to entrusting them with a weapon for protection, and not extend those requirements to anyone else? You feel teachers should have a psych eval and peer review? Then why not Salvador Ramos? Why aren't you consistent in your applications of common sense principles?
We don't just let people automatically drive a car without passing both written and practical driving experience, either in an instructed course or tested by an examiner licensed by the state. Why exactly do you feel firearms such be treated any differently?
OK, I guess if you want to call this a pistol you can, but just having a pistol grip and a shortened barrel doesn't make it into what normally is thought of as a pistol.
You mean you're not like Biden, who cancels policies that make America stronger just because Trump implemented them?
Probably the same effect of banning all drugs.......
She heard the noise, ran outside to get her cellphone and called 911. Assume in her panic forgot to close door. At least that’s what I heard. Skeptical about every story right now.
