I didn't think high rated kids stayed in state?
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Where was that brightness TO then?
Northern Kentucky?
East Lansing?
Where was YOUR brightness TO?
Right here . . .
It is if you used to be, or hope to be, elite on a national level. Winning a weak-schedule, unbalanced regular season title is nice, but what exactly does it get you? A ring or banner if your coach is so inclined I suppose; maybe a net-cutting ceremony. Is that above mediocrity enough for ya?
It is funny that great coaches like Izzo or Matta could not win the conference last year with it being so weak.
And again, you cite a specific instance vs a HISTORY of results from CTC. I mean, what has Izzo accomplished that CTC hasn't?
Oh, wait a minute...
Just saying if the conference was so weak then why didn't the great coaches win the conference over the inept coach at IU.
You obviously weren't watching or you'd know the issues with both of those teams. Interesting that you would foolishly try to puff up Crean by denigrating Matta and Izzo.
He has done more with much less resources at Xavier than Crean at IU.
For example, Crean makes 3.1 million a year.....Mack makes 1.1 and Miller makes 700k.
Is Crean 3 times better than Mack? Is Crean 4 times better than Miller?
I would say he finished first twice in the last 4 years. You really asking why we did not finish in the top 4 in the first 3 years.
Year 3 counts kid....
Ok, fine....why did IU finish 8th and 9th in the last 3 years in the B10?
Let me go get some popcorn....the spin on this is going to be great....
For reference, IU finished 9th in year 2.....Crean's SECOND year
We shouldn't have finished where we did but no one thought that year 3 we should have finished in the top 4. Thanks for calling me kid but I have been following IU basketball for over 40 years.
One year was poor and the other one was average. I would not say a year was poor or terrible when you make the tournament. 2014 was a little understandable when you lose your 4 best players and 4 100 point scorers.
Worth being the 9th highest paid coach in the country?
You can even include last year on that question....
I couldn't care less what a coach gets paid and it has nothing to do with evaluating what he has done. If he was the 50th highest paid guy then you would not have a problem with him. Put it this way if he struggles this year like 2014 then replace him and hire Marshall or Mack and I will be fine with that just like I would if we have a great year.
So, you'd be willing to pay $75,000 for your Ford Focus?
Last year was Crean's best coaching job at IU. Now a cynic would argue his best coaching move was taking JBJ out of the lineup, but his hand was forced there, wasn't it? If that doesn't happen, I think we continue to be a bad defensive team and struggle. Also, we had an EXTREMELY favorable schedule last year, so there were mitigating factors, but still his best job. And yet, where did we end up: Elite 8? F4? Nope, S16 and bounced in our first BTT game. See a pattern?
People get paid what the market says it is. There are plenty of professional players who I think are overpaid but the market was there for them to get paid what they got paid.
So if the market told you to pay $20,000 for a lemon that you knew was going to have issues, you'd pay it?
Do you think Crean would get $3 million plus in the market today? Do you believe he's created value based on his compensation? Would you pay $75k for your Focus?
The thing is I don't think Crean is a lemon. If I am evaluating a coach I am looking at other things besides his salary if I am determining if there needs to be a change. I look at on court production as well as how the players are doing off the court.
Yep but he didn't get Guy or Brunk either so do you have a we are top 16 sign I can buy ??
If ROI were National Championships, we'd have less banners than Purdue.
I don't care who wins your debate here but if it's "easy to point to" then isn't it valid?
Brunk will play for 4 years Davis has yet to show up we will see how long he stays. I would take any of the 4 Indiana kids ranked in the top 50 in 2017 over Al Durham any day Plus if you will read the posts I was responding to your friend Neigo who said not getting Brunk and Guy bothered him
It's only valid if ignoring 80% of his IU coaching record is a reasonable standard. Does that make sense to you?
Can we all agree at this point with this present roster that CTC has put together very balanced roster. I would also take Davis over Brunk but i really wanted Brunk for the long term. Inside the hall just named the top 20 players in the Big . We have 3 of the top 15 and RJ would be in the top 25.
With most other coaches at or near this tax bracket, the fan base would be pumped. But IU fan has earned the right to have a wait-and-see mindset. Can we all agree on that too? I mean, as long as we're agreeing on stuff wholesale? haha
