Virginia does not have a history of winning NCAA championships with home grown players IU does 1953(all 5 starters native Hoosiers) 1976 (3 native Hoosiers starters) 1981 (4 native Hoosier starters) 1987 (the only exception but the team was built around a Hoosier native) the last really multi year team the mid 90's featured the first 7 players from Indiana. It is a fact IU had it's most successful years when they did well in state recruiting......................
Agreed.....IU needs to land more kids from Missouri. Morgan and OG are two of the most exciting recruits IU has pulled in a long time. I can't wait to see Davis added to that mix. It could be the beginning of a pipeline of talent. Those kids from MoKan really play defense!
In all of those years IU won, most of those kids never left the state before traveling to the state university to play. Your facts are certainly correct, but I would also consider that the world has become much smaller since most of those championships. That said, it would be nice to get a few local kids to root for but you can't blame TC for being gun shy after "the Movement"
One class flame out doesn't mean it still should not be a focus, Knight had them too but the fact remains IU has had it's greatest success where the foundation has been home grown Hoosiers. TC should be gun shy about not recruiting Indiana kids since he has been to 1 final four in 19 years.....
Back in the 70's and 80's kids in Indiana still did not get to see these teams on TV all the time like they do now. Also today with all the summer basketball these kids get to talk to a lot more coaches than they use to.
Agreed.....IU needs to land more kids from Missouri. Morgan and OG are two of the most exciting recruits IU has pulled in a long time. I can't wait to see Davis added to that mix. It could be the beginning of a pipeline of talent. Those kids from MoKan really play defense!
87 only had one Indiana starter and no other players who contributed. If the talent is equal I really don't care where they come from as long as they want to play at IU.
People need to realize that Indiana is not what it was 25 years ago and it started around 1995. I watched a old game from 97 the other day and that team only had one Indiana player play at all and that was a freshmen Michael Lewis who came off the bench. the starters on that team was Guyton-Illinois, Reid-Louisiana, Miller-Florida, Patterson-Texas, Collier-Ohio. So to blame Crean for the lack of interest from Indiana kids is not fair as well since it has been going on for awhile.
No they would not but would they have won the championship without the JC players from Louisiana and California.
I did not say he does not take some of the blame but to act like it was not happening before him is not correct either.
Just agree to disagree that you need Indiana players to win championships. How many of those players that did not attend IU went on to win a national championship. I would not count the Plumlee's since they went to prep school in North Carolina.
When did I say that and right now UNC is considered an elite program where IU is not to recruits. Also if you look at the last two UNC classes they have signed 1 top 50 recruit so their recruiting has gone down the last couple of years. So are you saying all of the top players in North Carolina have always went to UNC.
Xavier is a bigger name in college basketball today than it was 25 years ago. I don't mean they are bigger than IU but just bigger today than they were back then. With teams like Xavier and Butler moving up to bigger conferences it gives kids other alternatives than there were 25 years ago. Also if Scruggs was definitely going to Xavier why has he not committed to them after his visit. Last week people were saying that Scruggs was going to commit after his visit but have not heard anything yet.
they have signed 1 top 50 recruit in the last two classes and when you look at the 5 years UNC is ranked 11th and IU 16th in the nation so they are not that far ahead of us. Also why not wait until next April when all of the 2017 class is signed before we panic and say how the sky is falling.
How about RMK because he missed on some of the Indiana kids as well. Also why not wait until April until everyone is signed to make a judgment on this class. I want to get Wilkes and Scruggs but if it is Waters and Tucker I don't see that much of a difference.
That's a convenient excuse for Crean's inability to connect with Indiana kids.
