How quickly do we fold today?

[Bippy]

Even with a home game I seem to have no confidence at this point. We. Have a ton of “talent” and a system that was allegedly next man up, but this kids just aren’t mentally tough.
Woody needs to try some kids who have been sitting on the bench. Maybe they have some will to fight

 

[Sobchak_Security]

Will it be:

1. Players didn’t follow the game plan?

2. Woody’s gotta get these guys to play harder?

3. Woody’s gotta get these guys to believe they can win?

4. Woody’s gotta get them over the hump?

 

[Imsowyctcwuzbetta]

Even with a home game I seem to have no confidence at this point. We. Have a ton of “talent” and a system that was allegedly next man up, but this kids just aren’t mentally tough.
Woody needs to try some kids who have been sitting on the bench. Maybe they have some will to fight

You mean they will quit just as you have?

 

[8Stars5Banners]

Even with a home game I seem to have no confidence at this point. We. Have a ton of “talent” and a system that was allegedly next man up, but this kids just aren’t mentally tough.
Woody needs to try some kids who have been sitting on the bench. Maybe they have some will to fight

Would LOVE to see a RMK move today and start all bench players

 

[go_iu]

Would LOVE to see a RMK move today and start all bench players

That would be OK, but JHS needs to be in there with them, he's about the only starter that doesn't need to learn a lesson

 

[GThomas]

Will it be:

1. Players didn’t follow the game plan?

2. Woody’s gotta get these guys to play harder?

3. Woody’s gotta get these guys to believe they can win?

4. Woody’s gotta get them over the hump?

All of the above.

 

[GeorgeStrait IU]

Will it be:

1. Players didn’t follow the game plan?

2. Woody’s gotta get these guys to play harder?

3. Woody’s gotta get these guys to believe they can win?

4. Woody’s gotta get them over the hump?

I'll take 5. Woody's gotta take a buyout at the end of the season.

 

[Bucktown]

That would be OK, but JHS needs to be in there with them, he's about the only starter that doesn't need to learn a lesson

He doesn’t need to throw the ball away, turnovers!

 

[iubud]

Even with a home game I seem to have no confidence at this point. We. Have a ton of “talent” and a system that was allegedly next man up, but this kids just aren’t mentally tough.
Woody needs to try some kids who have been sitting on the bench. Maybe they have some will to fight

I expect to win every game. Only a loser goes into a game expecting a loss. Can't go through life with a loser's mentality!

 

[birdforbogey]

I expect to win every game. Only a loser goes into a game expecting a loss. Can't go through life with a loser's mentality!

See Indiana basketball the last 20 years +

 

[rocketo]

I expect to win every game. Only a loser goes into a game expecting a loss. Can't go through life with a loser's mentality!

Lot of negative posters on this board. Must be miserable people to be around. They can’t stand it when another poster has any type of optimistic POV.

 

[bailey777]

Even with a home game I seem to have no confidence at this point. We. Have a ton of “talent” and a system that was allegedly next man up, but this kids just aren’t mentally tough.
Woody needs to try some kids who have been sitting on the bench. Maybe they have some will to fight

I see we arent getting run out of the building yet. Not watching just looking at my phone

 

[VanPastorMan]

I see we arent getting run out of the building yet. Not watching just looking at my phone

You ought to watch. They have uniforms and everything. It's great.

 

[Imsowyctcwuzbetta]

I see we arent getting run out of the building yet. Not watching just looking at my phone

another quitter

 

[FormerRevMatt]

I see we arent getting run out of the building yet. Not watching just looking at my phone

I don't understand why people wouldn't watch. It's not life or death. It's just a basketball game.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

 

[iubud]

I don't understand why people wouldn't watch. It's not life or death. It's just a basketball game.

Exactly! There are far worse things than your team losing a game. I hate losing, but I get over it and get ready for the next.

 

[JB_Nomee]

I don't understand why people wouldn't watch. It's not life or death. It's just a basketball game.

Well, in 49 other states maybe.

 

[IUAlum]

Even with a home game I seem to have no confidence at this point. We. Have a ton of “talent” and a system that was allegedly next man up, but this kids just aren’t mentally tough.
Woody needs to try some kids who have been sitting on the bench. Maybe they have some will to fight

Well, then find another team to follow, loser.

 

[T.M.P.]

Even with a home game I seem to have no confidence at this point. We. Have a ton of “talent” and a system that was allegedly next man up, but this kids just aren’t mentally tough.
Woody needs to try some kids who have been sitting on the bench. Maybe they have some will to fight

dumb

 

[Bippy]

Lot of negative posters on this board. Must be miserable people to be around. They can’t stand it when another poster has any type of optimistic POV.

Wrong. Woody shook them up and we saw effort. The mental is to the physical as 4 is to 1.
And realism is very different from negativity. I don’t wear rose colored glasses like you

 

[Bippy]

dumb

What a sad impression of what you see in the mirror

 

[Imsowyctcwuzbetta]

Wrong. Woody shook them up and we saw effort. The mental is to the physical as 4 is to 1.
And realism is very different from negativity. I don’t wear rose colored glasses like you

The team had to adjust after losing two starters... some of you had unrealistic expectations and started the detractions on CMW. Gave up on the team... quitters!

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Even with a home game I seem to have no confidence at this point. We. Have a ton of “talent” and a system that was allegedly next man up, but this kids just aren’t mentally tough.
Woody needs to try some kids who have been sitting on the bench. Maybe they have some will to fight

How quickly do you eat crow?

 

[Bippy]

How quickly do you eat crow?

Woody rode them for 3 hours yesterday. He kicked some ass as "they weren't mentally tough" like I said. Glad I was correct.

 

[Bippy]

I expect to win every game. Only a loser goes into a game expecting a loss. Can't go through life with a loser's mentality!

They haven't been mentally tough. You can't win without effort and they were weren't in the last several games and I would hope you had noticed.
I love these kids but there is no excuse for not mentally showing up. I loved their D today and unlike others would never criticize missed shots. They worked today, period.
And I will repeat again, the mental is to the physical as 4 as to 1.

 

[Bippy]

You mean they will quit just as you have?

No, I expect them to work hard. something they hadn't done for several games. Did you watch the Penn State game? Who had far more talent.

 

[Imsowyctcwuzbetta]

No, I expect them to work hard. something they hadn't done for several games. Did you watch the Penn State game? Who had far more talent.

you quit on them admit it!

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Woody rode them for 3 hours yesterday. He kicked some ass as "they weren't mentally tough" like I said. Glad I was correct.

That's some pHD level spin right there. You live in DC?

 

[rocketo]

Wrong. Woody shook them up and we saw effort. The mental is to the physical as 4 is to 1.
And realism is very different from negativity. I don’t wear rose colored glasses like you

Wrong. I just don’t have mood swings like a 16yo girl. I can stay positive when challenges exist.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Wrong. I just don’t have mood swings like a 16yo girl. I can stay positive when challenges exist.

That’s it! The fan base is a 16 year old girl or a midlife crisis divorced male.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Lot of negative posters on this board. Must be miserable people to be around. They can’t stand it when another poster has any type of optimistic POV.

Tell us more about the culture change Woodson is instilling in the players

 

[Courtsensetwo]

That’s it! The fan base is a 16 year old girl or a midlife crisis divorced male.

Can we agree on 18?

 

[iubud]

They haven't been mentally tough. You can't win without effort and they were weren't in the last several games and I would hope you had noticed.
I love these kids but there is no excuse for not mentally showing up. I loved their D today and unlike others would never criticize missed shots. They worked today, period.
And I will repeat again, the mental is to the physical as 4 as to 1.

I expect our players to learn from the poor performances and once again play as hard as they did against UNC and Xavier.

 

[bailey777]

You ought to watch. They have uniforms and everything. It's great.

I am watching it now i taped it. My kid had a game at noon I was not at home.

 

[bailey777]

I don't understand why people wouldn't watch. It's not life or death. It's just a basketball game.

If I am not home when its on I cant watch it.

 

[Imsowyctcwuzbetta]

Tell us more about the culture change Woodson is instilling in the players

Care to share your perspective?

 

[Bippy]

Wrong. I just don’t have mood swings like a 16yo girl. I can stay positive when challenges exist.

ad hominem attack is the best you can do?
Unlike you, I don't think it's fine for a team loaded with 5 and 4 star players to lose at home to Northwestern and by 20 to Penn State. I expect mental effort and the discipline to win. But then, I still have pride in IU basketball.

 

[Imsowyctcwuzbetta]

ad hominem attack is the best you can do?
Unlike you, I don't think it's fine for a team loaded with 5 and 4 star players to lose at home to Northwestern and by 20 to Penn State. I expect mental effort and the discipline to win. But then, I still have pride in IU basketball.

Relax ... the team is adjusting without two of it's starters... your expectations and argument are unrealistic.. No logic. They are human not a machine.

 

[rikki-tikka-tava]

Even with a home game I seem to have no confidence at this point. We. Have a ton of “talent” and a system that was allegedly next man up, but this kids just aren’t mentally tough.
Woody needs to try some kids who have been sitting on the bench. Maybe they have some will to fight

ad hominem attack is the best you can do?
Unlike you, I don't think it's fine for a team loaded with 5 and 4 star players to lose at home to Northwestern and by 20 to Penn State. I expect mental effort and the discipline to win. But then, I still have pride in IU basketball.

Sounds like you're projecting your issues onto others. Breathtaking how those whom have never met or spoken to a single one of the Players imagine themselves qualified to pass judgment on an entire Team's mental fortitude and/or default to explaining any and all issues on the Court as "lack of "culture" or "mental toughness". Talk about an ad hominem diagnosis (not unlike "mental to physical is 4 to 1").

No one said or implied losing was "okay" and absolutely no one with any real pride in IU (or themselves) would begin a post with "How quickly do we fold today?" - that is textbook loser's mentality. Like many others here, you jump off and on 'the bus' willy-nilly while imagining/proclaiming yourself a true fan and yet have the temerity to adjudge the Team rather than yourself as not being "mentally tough". And then you wonder why someone likens you to a hormonally-challenged teenage girl?

Almost everyone here expects IU to demonstrate the character and commitment required to win - thankfully not everyone chooses to whine like a baby when things don't work out the way they hope/expect, react by throwing the Coaches and Players under the bus, and/or pretend they have the answers Coach Wooden and Co. do not, e.g., "try some kids who have been sitting on the bench". Makes you sound far more like a mentally/emotionally spastic/unstable fraud than a fan, and far far distant from a BB savant if you actually believe that starting or giving major minutes to Gunn, Banks, Leal, Duncomb, et al. today would have resulted in anything as remotely successful as what played out on the Court. For one who prizes "mental effort", rates as really weak sauce.