Good start to the BIG season but I'm not buying what Woody's team is selling. I predict a 15 point loss @ Iowa followed by a single digit loss to IL to bring us back to reality. What say you all?
how do you think we'll fair @ Iowa and home vs. IL?
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1-1. Both very close games, not sure which one is a win. We're playing alright and still have a lot of talent that is figuring things out -- the team has upside.
Iowa is a winnable game, they play little defense.
Illini at home will be a nail biter.
Illini at home will be a nail biter.
Iowa- got to cover the 3 pt. line. We've let several games out there get away in recent years, games we should have won. Ballo needs to avoid foul trouble. MM has to actually show up. Fran doesn't teach defense but their offense is streaky as hell and can go on runs when their shooters feel it and they move the ball. Don't get into a track meet with them.
Win that game, then worry about ILL.
Win that game, then worry about ILL.
Yes, Ballo staying out of foul trouble is key.
I predict,we will win against Iowa and Illinois. Woodson was forced in to playing without both bigs. Something he would have never done. I’m going to give him the benefit of doubt. That he is smart enough to see what works. Won’t clog the lanes, when Reneau returns.
This might of saved his j-o-b
It also reinforced why he should lose his j-o-b.
I'm hungry to see this team to put together an "A" level performance.
Last several have been B performances in my book.
Last several have been B performances in my book.
No clue. In order of likelihood...
1. 0-2
2. 1-1, beating Iowa
3. 1-1, beating Illinois
4. 2-0
But the margin between all of these is small. 2-0 would be the most surprising, to me. Its difficult for me to envision Sand Fart and Dicks not going off on us. And then Illinois is playing really, really well, on both ends of the court right now. They'll be the best team we've played this year thus far, and they're playing well.
1. 0-2
2. 1-1, beating Iowa
3. 1-1, beating Illinois
4. 2-0
But the margin between all of these is small. 2-0 would be the most surprising, to me. Its difficult for me to envision Sand Fart and Dicks not going off on us. And then Illinois is playing really, really well, on both ends of the court right now. They'll be the best team we've played this year thus far, and they're playing well.
Imagine what life would be like winning both of them...go ahead, take the time because it feels awfully good.
Who thought our football team would finish the regular season 11-1, skunking Peeyew 66-0? Who amongst the pre-season gathered ever visualized making the first 12-team CFP?
There, (locality there) I never thought IU would beat Penn State with Reneau out.
Isn’t it possible this gift we thought from the football gods was a gift of the basketball gods, too? Perhaps just one winter-sports god with a winning smile, caught in the light of our way.
Think it.
Wait for it…
Feel it.
“…when Hoosier hysteria morphs into delirious Hoosier euphoria!”
~ Don Fischer, March 1976
Who thought our football team would finish the regular season 11-1, skunking Peeyew 66-0? Who amongst the pre-season gathered ever visualized making the first 12-team CFP?
There, (locality there) I never thought IU would beat Penn State with Reneau out.
Isn’t it possible this gift we thought from the football gods was a gift of the basketball gods, too? Perhaps just one winter-sports god with a winning smile, caught in the light of our way.
Think it.
Wait for it…
Feel it.
“…when Hoosier hysteria morphs into delirious Hoosier euphoria!”
~ Don Fischer, March 1976
A win is a win but the combined record of those 4 teams is 4-14 Beat illinois and maybe we are onto something. But so far all we beat was bottom dwellers basically.
Don't really "have" to beat Illinois to be on to something. Probably do need to beat one of them, but even if we don't, if both games are well played and competitive, we can build on that and then hopefully start beating some teams. Because, at some point, you do have to beat NCAA caliber teams... But with regards to the next 2 games... Iowa is not an easy opponent to play, on the road especially. And Illinois might have one of the better teams in the country right now, being led by an NBA level point guard. Losing to both doesn't "end" our season, by any means. As has always been, for me, its more about what we look like and how we compete. Its completely unrealistic to have B10 championship and Final Four levels of expectations with this team...so with that perspective, losing these two games wouldn't be a "sky is falling" type of deal.
We can only hope that Carlyle comes out of his funk and plays the type of defense that was advertised preseason. We definitely need someone to be a lockdown defender against both Iowa and Illinois.
At some point, we may have to accept that Carlyle just isn’t that good. Outside of a few glimpses of solid on the ball defense he hasn’t done much to impress. I understand we need him to be better for us to hit our ceiling, I’m just not holding my breath.
Getting more out of Carlyle as a solid role player seems so simple.
Ultimately falls in the coaching staff, but I don't understand why Galloway and Leal, guys with the most experience and I believe see the game well, don't take it upon themselves to get Carlyle to make the easy changes to maximize his impact on the team winning.
In my experience, what I described above, would happen on a smaller scale in real time in any sort of pickup games where winning was valued.
Ultimately falls in the coaching staff, but I don't understand why Galloway and Leal, guys with the most experience and I believe see the game well, don't take it upon themselves to get Carlyle to make the easy changes to maximize his impact on the team winning.
In my experience, what I described above, would happen on a smaller scale in real time in any sort of pickup games where winning was valued.
It's sometimes not simple to get a guy who thinks of himself as a shooter/scorer to see that they can contribute in other ways and still be valuable. And, more importantly, to accept doing that. Their identity is tied up in being a shooter, and they think that's the most important part of the game, so that's what they want to do all the time.
Fools gold. Woody can beat a few bottom dwellers and that’s it. Pathetic program
We all seen this coming! Just the matter of time! This team has too many flaws from top to bottom! Pathetic coaching +pathetic players =disaster!
Not even competitive the last 12 minutes of a game.
Looks like a pickup game..
And imo ..Iowa isn't that good.
They'd be a bottom feeder in the SEC this year..
Looks like a pickup game..
And imo ..Iowa isn't that good.
They'd be a bottom feeder in the SEC this year..
Normally when a coach leaves I usually really want player x or player y to stay. This team? Truly dont care if roster and staff all go.
Keep the freshman he will be a player. I would keep Rice too. A good coach would do wonders for him.
IU is close to being lumped in as a bottom-feeder. The program has losing records over the past several years to Penn State, Nebraska, Northwestern. and Iowa. Nobody is intimidated in the least by IU basketball.
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