And I dont think Vance was referring to as being so---Just a suggestion. TOact as if he's implying hving grandma/grandpa, etc...watch your children, being THE solution, is being naive.
He’s the last Republican to win anything. Maga won. And young dems skew hard left. Pubs need centrist candidates. Not old guard.
the current republican party not the party of two decades ago. the party that has been the ticket for hte last two elections. the party that nominated trump by a landslide. that one.
Centrist is probably right. Centrist is viable - with some center left and center right in the coalition. That’s not MAGA.
of course it's maga. it's appealign to that segment of the economic base that felt left behind. that used to be a guarantee for the dems. electricians. trades. cops. etc. you think wars and cheney and trickle down appeal to them in rhetoric or reality? of course not. that's maga. maga is the old dem party. the people who vote maga used to vote for dems. now dems are liberal academics, hollywood, and minorities. the working class went maga. if twenty thinks that's gross i don't know what to say. they built america
They aren’t all MAGA. Polls are showing that Trump is leading among the demographic that doesn’t follow politics at all. The low information sector. They recognize his name. “Hey, I’m going to vote for him. I heard of him!” Sad.
low information? do you think the dem block is "high information." welfare state expansion, defund police, bail projects, cart before the horse energy policies, and open borders? please.
LOL the second most liberal senator this century is the presidential nominee with a progressive vp and you don't think there's a change?
I’m specifically talking about Trump leading among the segment of people who say they don’t follow politics at all or very little. I think it’s likely name recognition for them.
your position doesn't hold water inasmuch as you're trying to extrapolate the country a decade ago for today. times have changed. romney today would do about like haley. not well. left went way left and trump filled in with the old blue collar workers that once went dem. doesn't leave much for romney types.
The swing states have changed making it more likely the popular vote loser can squeeze out an EC win like Trump in 2016.
great. mccain romney lost. it's my belief that in the current political milieu they'd lose by even larger margins.
If you want Trump purged from the party then why not hold your nose and vote for harris?
The party needs to swing right on fiscal matters. Embrace Bitcoin. Stop with the endless war shit and make cuts. Leave abortion to the states and call it a win. And close the f#cking border.
The problem when you say many of Biden's votes "are illegitimate" is that there are numerous documented cases of Republican voters committing ballot fraud. Here are some examples.
www.nbcnews.com
Obama was beatable in 12, but the Bush shit show dragged Romney down. Obamacare was a disaster.
Maybe they’d win now. Ohio is solidly red now and Obama won that state. Same with Florida. Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania are in play for Republicans now. Romney wins Florida and Ohio along with one or more of the others and he’s an EC winner like Trump.
trump endorsed candidates across the board have an overwhelming winning record. now much of that is baked in as those folks would perhaps vote red but who knows. again i disagree with you on maga. i think trump slid in and picked off a segment left behind by the dems that woudl not gravitate to a romney/mccain type. that said i do believe the dems with a centrist candidate could pick some of it off again - if they got away from identity politics etc. listen all of this is just opinion.
I want to vote for a Republican and Trump will win Ohio. I’m leaning toward Youngkin at the moment.
i don't think they would. i don't think your garden-variety old school blue collar dem who votes trump would vote romney/bush. my family. asphalt guys. roofers. electricians. 40 year dems now vote trump. they'd vote a centrist dem. but htey won't vote a bush. and every one of them are vets. war vets.
Obamacare happened in Obama’s first term. Bush had been out of office four years. Obama was beatable, but still too popular and the economy was good.
Sounds like you believe the President of the United States is responsible for "conflicts overseas" that don't involve the U.S.
I know. Republicans picked up a million seats in the House in 2010 because of it. I still think Bush’s Presidency hurt Romney in 2012. Not sure what you were inferring?
Romney lost bc he got killed by young people and minorities. He was totally out of touch. I believe twenty and aloha are wrong as that ilk would come across as being even more out of touch today. Minorities. Young people. Working class. That’s not a Romney type nor is it an old guard pub.
Many parents don't even live in the same city as the grandparents. And, even when grandparents live in the same city many of them are still working themselves.
Oh no, you’re correct on that. I got lost in your guys conversation. I was just saying a really good GOP candidate could have beaten Obama. I don’t view Romney or Trump as good candidates.
A "change" from what? Certainly not a "change" from the tone of past Democrat platforms for the past 70 or 80 years.
No. Cradle to grave benefits with Biden/Harris. Equity of outcome. You’re always wrong. Always. Change your feed.
I read that article. Its methodology is just a comparison of Harris's contemporaries in the Senate, and all this does is create a list of contemporaries.No. Cradle to grave benefits with Biden/Harris. Equity of outcome. You’re always wrong. Always. Change your feed.
Kamala Harris is extremely liberal — and the numbers prove it
Based on her roll call voting record, Harris is the second-most liberal Democratic senator to serve in the Senate in the 21st century.thehill.com
That’s how left the admin aspired. Harris second most liberal. California. Wake up. Get a new feed
here's what the worst about harris and posters like you and hickory and some others. you're dishonest. you have no principles. harris has a progressive record. harris and biden promised to be transformative. they set out playing the race card and vowed to open the border bc trump was treating brown people cruelly, attack cops bc they target blacks so let's defund and implement bail projects, we're green so let's go after the oil companies fracking etc, and let's be transformative. largest social safety net in history. forgive student loans. medicare for all. cradle to grave benefits.
