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Harris vs. Trump 2024

Projection much? Which influential Republicans or sitting members of Congress have proposed not certifying if Harris wins?


I'm not projecting at all. Trump is clearly setting up a fight if he loses. He hasn't changed. Of course, you're one of the morons that believed the lie about 2020. Little secret for you - Trump doesn't believe his lie, he just uses it to rile up the morons among his minions.
 
Should we list all the examples where Trump has shifted away from wacko right wing positions to tack to the center and give himself a chance to win? Like saying a woman should be punsihed for getting an abortion, at a time when Roe vs Wade was still the law of the land?

His phony position now is that it should be left to the people of each state, although anyone knows that if the people of states like GA and Texas were actually allowed to vote neither state would have been able to implement their draconian anti-abortion laws...But even conceding his ridiculous argument that he wanted Roe vs Wade to be overthrown so that each "state" could decide, how does that correlate to his belief that women should be punished?

Talk about a phony tack to the center...



As for Harris I believe her rationale would be that she has had life experiences over the past 4 yrs that have caused her to examine and re-evaluate her position on certain issues. She's no longer trying to appeal to a minority of progressive Dems in a primary, but rather to a wider group of more centrist Americans in the middle.

It's like Cuban has pointed out, she's willing to consult and take advice from various sources into consideration and if warranted modify her own position. She's gone from being a Senator from CA representing constituents who on the whole are more progressive to being the VP of the entire country with a totally different constituency...Unlike Trump she's willing to admit when one of her previous positions was wrong...
 
So all the whining, pre emptive claims of "cheating" and ridiculous stunts like this...

Does that sound like a campaign that believes it is "winning"? This action exemplifies the desperate nature of resorting to a Hail Mary. It's a perfect combination of both whining and claiming pre-emptively that he was "cheated"... Anyone else would be embarrased to try and pull such a ridiculous stunt...





ETA-Aloha beat me to the punch. But I'll go ahead and leave my post intact because I think the Meidas Touch video contains context that the Axios story doesn't. Like why Trump chose that particular district and judge for his ridiculous lawsuit...
 
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Mail ballots - Clark County, NV
10/31

Dem 8,805 (40.5%) +4,050
Rep 4,755 (21.8%)
Other 8,177 (37.6%)

Total 21,737

Moderate batch good for a 4k Dem margin, raising the Clark Dem firewall to 11k and lowering the statewide margin to Rep +44k.

The Dems really not getting the mail volume or percentage they need
 
So all the whining, pre emptive claims of "cheating" and ridiculous stunts like this...

Does that sound like a campaign that believes it is "winning"? This action exemplifies the desperate nature of resorting to a Hail Mary. It's a perfect combination of both whining and claiming pre-emptively that he was "cheated"... Anyone else would be embarrased to try and pull such a ridiculous stunt...





ETA-Aloha beat me to the punch. But I'll go ahead and leave my post intact because I think the Meidas Touch video contains context that the Axios story doesn't. Like why Trump chose that particular district and judge for his ridiculous lawsuit...

Any serious, reliable and objective news organization would be embarrassed to have done this in the first place.
 
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Any serious, reliable and objective news organization would be embarrassed to have done this in the first place.

I think it's pretty telling that CBS refused to release the unedited video and/or transcript. If it were me, and I was being falsely accused of deceptive editing, I'd be eager to get that out there. I'd put the burden on my accusers to show where I did it.

So I think it's probably true that CBS chopped the interview answers up in a way that they didn't want everybody to see and scrutinize.

That said....this is a ridiculous and groundless lawsuit that shouldn't last 10 minutes in any courtroom.
 
So all the whining, pre emptive claims of "cheating" and ridiculous stunts like this...

Does that sound like a campaign that believes it is "winning"? This action exemplifies the desperate nature of resorting to a Hail Mary. It's a perfect combination of both whining and claiming pre-emptively that he was "cheated"... Anyone else would be embarrased to try and pull such a ridiculous stunt...





ETA-Aloha beat me to the punch. But I'll go ahead and leave my post intact because I think the Meidas Touch video contains context that the Axios story doesn't. Like why Trump chose that particular district and judge for his ridiculous lawsuit...
Big News rigging public information to influence an election is a fact and isn’t news. But I don’t know of any way information rigging is actionable. The USA is only as good as the people, and we have daily examples of the people who hold power and influence not being very good.

We are screwed. As Bobby Knight famously said, “ sit back and enjoy it”.
 
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Any serious, reliable and objective news organization would be embarrassed to have done this in the first place.
Msm influence with zero journalistic integrity and the oversized influence of billionaires needs to be addressed. No idea how. Can’t go back to the fairness doctrine. Obviously. But billionaires that should be doable. Particularly in remote races with no meaningful connection
 
Msm influence with zero journalistic integrity and the oversized influence of billionaires needs to be addressed. No idea how. Can’t go back to the fairness doctrine. Obviously. But billionaires that should be doable. Particularly in remote races with no meaningful connection
put people in stocks, then throw tomatoes and heads of lettuce

tar and feather
 
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Msm influence with zero journalistic integrity and the oversized influence of billionaires needs to be addressed. No idea how. Can’t go back to the fairness doctrine. Obviously. But billionaires that should be doable. Particularly in remote races with no meaningful connection
How do we deal with social media? Musk bombed my Twitter threads yesterday and I had to scroll through a lot of his pro-GOP and Trump posts. I didn’t want any of that.
 
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As we get closer is anyone worried? Specifically about the political makeup up the Administrations in the swing states? Are we really to expect Hobbes, Whitmer, Shapiro, Evers and their respective Democrat SoS to certify a close race should Trump win? That Michigan SoS, particularly, appears to have escaped from the looney bin. But seriously, you can't certify, you can't certify fascists and Hitler.

Good chance something about this election makes it's way before the Supreme Court, which makes me feel slightly better. Still that assumes all votes are counted completely and correctly.

@dbmhoosier what does our oversight look like on the ground? Legal teams in place besides Giuliani? We're going to need it.
 
As we get closer is anyone worried? Specifically about the political makeup up the Administrations in the swing states? Are we really to expect Hobbes, Whitmer, Shapiro, Evers and their respective Democrat SoS to certify a close race should Trump win? That Michigan SoS, particularly, appears to have escaped from the looney bin. But seriously, you can't certify, you can't certify fascists and Hitler.

Good chance something about this election makes it's way before the Supreme Court, which makes me feel slightly better. Still that assumes all votes are counted completely and correctly.

@dbmhoosier what does our oversight look like on the ground? Legal teams in place besides Giuliani? We're going to need it.
But you have no concerns about GOP led states certifying a Harris win? I mean, they did it 4 years ago and Trump will be leading the charge to do it again.
 
As we get closer is anyone worried? Specifically about the political makeup up the Administrations in the swing states? Are we really to expect Hobbes, Whitmer, Shapiro, Evers and their respective Democrat SoS to certify a close race should Trump win? That Michigan SoS, particularly, appears to have escaped from the looney bin. But seriously, you can't certify, you can't certify fascists and Hitler.

Good chance something about this election makes it's way before the Supreme Court, which makes me feel slightly better. Still that assumes all votes are counted completely and correctly.

@dbmhoosier what does our oversight look like on the ground? Legal teams in place besides Giuliani? We're going to need it.
Don't be ridiculous. The only elected officials who have tried to avoid certifying election results have been Republicans. Stop projecting.
 
As we get closer is anyone worried? Specifically about the political makeup up the Administrations in the swing states? Are we really to expect Hobbes, Whitmer, Shapiro, Evers and their respective Democrat SoS to certify a close race should Trump win? That Michigan SoS, particularly, appears to have escaped from the looney bin. But seriously, you can't certify, you can't certify fascists and Hitler.

Good chance something about this election makes it's way before the Supreme Court, which makes me feel slightly better. Still that assumes all votes are counted completely and correctly.

@dbmhoosier what does our oversight look like on the ground? Legal teams in place besides Giuliani? We're going to need it.
Good questions. And that dirty hot lawyer. She didn’t know you had to ask for a jury. Probably keep her on the bench
 
But you have no concerns about GOP led states certifying a Harris win? I mean, they did it 4 years ago and Trump will be leading the charge to do it again.
Not really. Should she win Georgia, I expect Kemp and Raffensberger would certify again. That's really the only one in play for her. I guess Nevada has a Republican Governor, but I'm not sure he's super Trumpy.

Now if she gets close in Florida or Texas she could have problems. But I think those are long shots.
 
We're probably going to eventually have to give up on the idea that democracy is a non-negotiable part of government.
I guess congress could restrict in some fashion digital political advertising. And if there’s no nexus between the billionaire and the community restrict giving. If Soros wants to fund a progressive DA here I’m not okay with that. If David steward wants to do it I am okay with it. He’s part of the community. Even if is outsized purse tips the scales to a candidate I hate. That’s life.
 
How do we deal with social media? Musk bombed my Twitter threads yesterday and I had to scroll through a lot of his pro-GOP and Trump posts. I didn’t want any of that.
Deal with it. What you want isn’t important.
 
As we get closer is anyone worried? Specifically about the political makeup up the Administrations in the swing states? Are we really to expect Hobbes, Whitmer, Shapiro, Evers and their respective Democrat SoS to certify a close race should Trump win? That Michigan SoS, particularly, appears to have escaped from the looney bin. But seriously, you can't certify, you can't certify fascists and Hitler.

Good chance something about this election makes it's way before the Supreme Court, which makes me feel slightly better. Still that assumes all votes are counted completely and correctly.

@dbmhoosier what does our oversight look like on the ground? Legal teams in place besides Giuliani? We're going to need it.
We have as good a ground game as Republicans have ever had. Eyes and ears everywhere watching for any shenanigans. And no Shapiro and Whitmer do not want Harris to win.

 
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We have as good a ground game as Republicans have ever had. Eyes and ears everywhere watching for any shenanigans. And no Shapiro and Whitmer do not want Harris to win.
I thought the same of Shapiro at least. He seems opportunistic. A Trump win sets him up nicely for 2028 run.
 
I guess congress could restrict in some fashion digital political advertising. And if there’s no nexus between the billionaire and the community restrict giving. If Soros wants to fund a progressive DA here I’m not okay with that. If David steward wants to do it I am okay with it. He’s part of the community. Even if is outsized purse tips the scales to a candidate I hate. That’s life.
Turns out George Orwell wrote nonfiction.

 
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I thought the same of Shapiro at least. He seems opportunistic. A Trump win sets him up nicely for 2028 run.
Kamala’s profound inadequacies will be apparent shortly after taking office for those who still think she can do the job. Shapiro will still be in the catbird seat unless the public realizes that he is the person who put her in office.
 
How do we deal with social media? Musk bombed my Twitter threads yesterday and I had to scroll through a lot of his pro-GOP and Trump posts. I didn’t want any of that.
I mean...I thought X was a private entity? If you didn't like the feed or censorship, you could always start your own...like Truth Social or something, right?

Isn't that the option? Learn to code, and develop your own Twitter?
 
Kamala’s profound inadequacies will be apparent shortly after taking office for those who still think she can do the job. Shapiro will still be in the catbird seat unless the public realizes that he is the person who put her in office.

You think Shapiro would run against her as an incumbent in 2028? I guess it's possible -- if she's really in that bad a shape. But it's pretty unusual for that happen.

I do find him pretty impressive. And I'd much rather he be on the Dem ticket right now than her.
 
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How do we deal with social media? Musk bombed my Twitter threads yesterday and I had to scroll through a lot of his pro-GOP and Trump posts. I didn’t want any of that.

Why don't you just block him? I've blocked a number of people on X who I felt I was getting spammed with.
 
You think Shapiro would run against her as an incumbent in 2028? I guess it's possible -- if she's really in that bad a shape. But it's pretty unusual for that happen.

I do find him pretty impressive. And I'd much rather he be on the Dem ticket right now than her.
He’s solid
 
You think Shapiro would run against her as an incumbent in 2028? I guess it's possible -- if she's really in that bad a shape. But it's pretty unusual for that happen.

I do find him pretty impressive. And I'd much rather he be on the Dem ticket right now than her.
Absolutely. Look for Newsom also. Maybe more who are not on anybody’s radar. she will be a disaster with favorables <40%.
 
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