And now the script is flipped. IU has the better coach and program. With our new president committed, I expect that to continue. IU was always somewhat of a sleeping giant (the state school, beautiful campus, Lake Monroe, coeds, alum money, cool town) but past administrations never saw the potential financial ramifications of a winner (alumni donations). Seemed like they were satisfied with BB. Purdue took most of the good Indiana players that ND didn't want. That's partly how Purdue has survived all these years. State isn't big enough recruit wise to satisfy three schools. Now it's up to the school to come through on more upgraded facilities. I've always seen Purdue as a stepping stone school and sadly IU as career ender. Don't know what the final W-L record will be this year but the foundation is being built.
Harrell fired by Purdue
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Yeah things can change quickly. I’m not getting overconfident yet. I like what I’ve seen. Let’s see if the recruits do.
What would there be for recruits NOT to like?
It is obvious that CCC has loyalty from his staff since that all came with him and most have been with him for an extended time.
It is obvious that the players like playing for him as evidenced by how many players came with him from JMU.
Hell, I would like to play for him but alas I have no eligibility left!
On paper, they are probably looking at some pretty sizeable losses, at least in the next three games and it doesn't get any better after that.
Well, at least PU is a good engineering school. Good vet school. Probably other areas also, but I think those two for sure.
PU just lost their only WR in the 2025 class, Labron Hill from Hammond Morton who decommitted. He's a 6-4 receiver.
Brohm told his team that he was not going to Lville them immediately went and met with them. Scumbag.
sad little bit of trivia, but the new OC at Purdue doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page. That’s an under the radar pick if I’ve ever seen one.
He (and others) was super mad at me for stating that PU had made another bad hire and that they would be starting over again in three years.
Very enjoyable to watch their program implode again.
Bill Clinton said he didn’t have sex with that woman…Ms Lewinsky. Her spotted blue dress said otherwise. Cumbag.
Moral of this story - Talk is cheap so it pays to cover up your tracks.
Yeah no kidding. Everything is lining up for IU with coaching and schedule and transfers etc but it's 5 games into year 1. Have to see if IU can keep the fans engaged. Also curious how they'll do on the road against a solid team.
PU had to make a change and for a mid season change you're stuck with who else you have on staff. IU was "fortunate" to have Bostad on staff both when they had to fire the o line coach and later the coordinator. I put that in quotes because it's crazy to have someone like that sitting on staff when you're handing the offense to Walt Bell and Hiller...
I'm repeating myself but it's funny to watch PU make all the same mistakes IU made several years ago. After Brohm they could have found a good coach. They have some history of winning (Tiller, Brohm) and normally draw fans, a couple factors IU hasn't had.
Don’t flatter yourself. These boards never make it made me mad. That would be a colossal waste of time. I disagreed with you. But ya, the Harrell hire is probably gonna sink Walter’s.
I have no doubt it will be an engaged crowd from here on out, no matter what happens against solid teams on the road. IU fans have suffered through their hungry years and Coach Cignetti & staff have presented us with a smorgasbord. Nebraska, Washington, Michigan, Purdue…anticipate a raucous crowd of delirious maniacs.
Walters is trying the same deflection as Allen did to save his job. It didn't work for Allen & only time will tell if Walters move is successful.
You think the Harrell hire is what's sinking Walters? Walters is what's sinking them! I've got several big time PU fans as friends, and to a man, they all thought the hire was stupid from the word go. One of them is very tied to different coaching circles and one thing kept coming out of those circles....the guy is NOT head coach material and probably over rated as a "defensive guru" as well. Welp, here we are 1.5 years later and he's fired his OC, but funny enough his defense is actually worse than the offense!
I think both are issues. But the offense under Harrell did zero favors in helping Walter’s. Can’t have a good defense when the offense goes 3 and out every possession.
I dunno. Wisconsin sucks. If the Badgers take them to the woodshed Saturday, it might be rock bottom.
Nah, they still have Northwestern ahead too.
When i want to flatter myself I just stand next to you.
To be fair, you are wrong. They will be starting over after two years*
Just Harrell lol? Not the defense that is dead last in points and yards allowed from the guy who publicly declared himself, "the best defensive coordinator in the country"?
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It sounds to me like it could just as easily be a physical conditioning problem which reflects back on Walter’s. watch. One gets winded easily when too fat and sassy. Adding to your woes would be the defensive team’s finger pointing towards the inept offense, not promoting locker room camaraderie, thus igniting the dumpster fire we see with such glee.
PU has had success with a Tiller or Brohm type of a hire: proven coach at lower ranks, brings staff, hits the ground running. IU is presently having success with a similar type of hire after learning the hard way rolling the dice on an unproven coordinator. PU should have known better. Now, one side of the ball is being ran by an unproven high school coach from Ben Davis, which is what they gave IU crap for: weird.
Yes. Because being on the field for 3/4 a game as a defense always works well. Why do you think every defensive coach likes time of possession?
Difference is, Purdue didn’t hire him as more than an analyst in an offseason. And he still isn’t HC. What was Purdues other options?
My question back would be WHY don't they have better options? Not a single position coach on offense that would have been a better choice than a guy who has literally coached 12 games in college and zero at the P4 level?
Too fat and sassy? Talking about the football team or the co-eds up there?
I mean, there probably was, but I see what Walter’s is doing. Trying not to upset the day to day of the position coaches. We will see if it works.
Because that part of it is going so well too???
Brohm went 8-5 and 9-4 over his last two years. Walters was 4-8 last year and is 1-3 this year, with each of those games Purdue has been dominated. Flat out dominated. Other than NW, all your possibilities at winning come playing on the road. You have a very realistic chance of ending the season 1-11. How could he possibly come back as coach? We've seen first hand at Indiana what happens with terrible consecutive years.
I like Walters as a DC--his 5-2 eagle front does a nice job shutting down inside runs--PROVIDED he has the right guys--and he doesn't now, and his defenses are are getting destroyed--99th overall and a 130th against the run. None of the recruits he has coming in are going to improve that shit show. Strickland is there and he barely sees the field. Brevard is the equivalent of patrick lucas, and Lewis is just blah.
Much the same way I'm sure PU fans wanted Allen to stay, we would LOOOOOVE for Ryan to stick around. He is in over his head.
Depth at key positions makes for seamless transitions when players find themselves of short wind.
Lack of quality depth must be a weakness in Walter’s team.
I can overlook fat and sassy if they promise to growl for me.
Firing the OC mid-season with a 1-3 record and bringing in a guy with no resume to run one side of the ball is not a good spot to be in. This is basically what IU did last year, the difference being Rod Carey had coordinator and HC experience. Walters has shown he doesn't know squat about offense, failed hiring his first OC, and now basically has to make a home run hire at OC to have any shot at keeping his job.
Ya. I think he has the secondary pieces now, but he has no line and linebackers. Moving Jenkins back to OLB helped because he and Heldt can take the ends. Berglund getting healthy makes that possible.
Purdue's secondary is atrocious. It just hasn't been exposed because Purdue has given up 864 yards on the ground against the 3 FBS opponents they've played...there's no need for the opposition to pass.
I don't think it's a big deal that they gave the OC job to an unknown quantity. How the hell else do you get known? You have to start somewhere.
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