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Haitian Legal Immigrants

snarlcakes

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How many years before they are able to vote? I read somewhere and they said 5 years, but thought that was crazy. Anyone know?
 
As I understand it, this is not a pathway to citizenship. TPS is regularly reviewed, if Haiti is ever thought safe, they are out. If they violate the law they can be removed.

Now they can apply for citizenship like anyone else. They are not at the front of any line, they have to wait out the process. It appears the wait for a green card is 2 years, and once one gets that a 2-3 year wait for citizenship. But none of that is guaranteed for the Haitians, they have to go through the same process as anyone else.
 
Is that a 5 year process? 10 year process? Do you know?
I think it depends. The rule of thumb for Sailors who marry citizens of other countries is that it takes a minimum of five years. Unfortunately, divorces come soon after that for too many of them. I have heard it taking longer though.
 
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It's a forever process. TPS designees are not eligible for citizenship. They have to have another channel open to them.
Thanks for answer. So if another channel doesn’t open, what happens? Are they eligible for legal employment forever? This will be an issue for employers in our area.
 
Thanks for answer. So if another channel doesn’t open, what happens? Are they eligible for legal employment forever? This will be an issue for employers in our area.
Trump said he will have them gone in three months, so it probably doesn't matter.
 
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Trump said he will have them gone in three months, so it probably doesn't matter.
Geez, I asked a serious question.

Btw pissed my wife off last night over that three month comment and the absurdity. I am still going to vote for him over Harris/Walz.

Btw is she black, white, brown or yellow? She has a different speech dialect depending on who she’s speaking to. Wonder if she has an Amish dialect. I guess she figures everyone is dumb like she said young people are.
 
Geez, I asked a serious question.

Btw pissed my wife off last night over that three month comment and the absurdity. I am still going to vote for him over Harris/Walz.

Btw is she black, white, brown or yellow? She has a different speech dialect depending on who she’s speaking to. Wonder if she has an Amish dialect. I guess she figures everyone is dumb like she said young people are.
This is a fairly weak complaint in my opinion.

I have lived all over this country (California, Ohio, Colorado, Alabama, NC, Indiana, Florida) and long enough at each of those locations that I have picked up the dialect. I also worked for a Japanese company for 8 years.

When I am in Alabama, the twang in my voice just pops out after a couple of minutes of talking. Same thing with NC (though it's a slightly different twang, it's kinda subtle).

When I talk with Japanese people, I talk in a broken-English, removing some words that the Japanese language doesn't use (Ie. "the" is removed frequently, etc.)

When I am in California (parents still live there), I find myself often having a bit of a Hispanic emphasis when talking to the people in my parent's neighborhood.

When I am in Florida, I beat my wife a bit more (J/K)

The point being, I am not altering my speech because I am pandering to the audience. I am doing it because they just understand me a little better.
 
This is a fairly weak complaint in my opinion.

I have lived all over this country (California, Ohio, Colorado, Alabama, NC, Indiana, Florida) and long enough at each of those locations that I have picked up the dialect. I also worked for a Japanese company for 8 years.

When I am in Alabama, the twang in my voice just pops out after a couple of minutes of talking. Same thing with NC (though it's a slightly different twang, it's kinda subtle).

When I talk with Japanese people, I talk in a broken-English, removing some words that the Japanese language doesn't use (Ie. "the" is removed frequently, etc.)

When I am in California (parents still live there), I find myself often having a bit of a Hispanic emphasis when talking to the people in my parent's neighborhood.

When I am in Florida, I beat my wife a bit more (J/K)

The point being, I am not altering my speech because I am pandering to the audience. I am doing it because they just understand me a little better.
I used to spend every summer of my youth in TN. It was amazing how quickly I went from talking normal (indiana) and saying things like "you guys" to replacing it with Y'all and over yonder. Only to have the process reverse itself once I got back to Indiana...
 
This is a fairly weak complaint in my opinion.

I have lived all over this country (California, Ohio, Colorado, Alabama, NC, Indiana, Florida) and long enough at each of those locations that I have picked up the dialect. I also worked for a Japanese company for 8 years.

When I am in Alabama, the twang in my voice just pops out after a couple of minutes of talking. Same thing with NC (though it's a slightly different twang, it's kinda subtle).

When I talk with Japanese people, I talk in a broken-English, removing some words that the Japanese language doesn't use (Ie. "the" is removed frequently, etc.)

When I am in California (parents still live there), I find myself often having a bit of a Hispanic emphasis when talking to the people in my parent's neighborhood.

When I am in Florida, I beat my wife a bit more (J/K)

The point being, I am not altering my speech because I am pandering to the audience. I am doing it because they just understand me a little better.
I'm the same way.

Whenever I am talking to MAGA's I talk very slowly and tend to use the vocabulary of an average 6th grader. :p

When I was a freshman at Purdue numerous people told me I had a "northern accent" (I grew up in NW Ohio). Still don't know that that means, but after about 3 months I did not hear that comment again - until the next Fall when I returned to campus from NW Ohio.
 
The point being, I am not altering my speech because I am pandering to the audience. I am doing it because they just understand me a little better.
My wife insists that she knows when I am talking on the phone to a southern Indiana relative or friend because I start talking in a hick accent, without thinking about it at all.

But she's from texas and talks in a Texas twang to her Texan friends and relatives.
 
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My wife insists that she knows when I am talking on the phone to a southern Indiana relative or friend because I start talking in a hick accent, without thinking about it at all.

But she's from texas and talks in a Texas twang to her Texan friends and relatives
And you weren’t mistaken for a Yankee in Texas.
I worked in Dallas County for a while and was never mistaken for a Yankee.
 
My wife insists that she knows when I am talking on the phone to a southern Indiana relative or friend because I start talking in a hick accent, without thinking about it at all.

But she's from texas and talks in a Texas twang to her Texan friends and relatives
And you weren’t mistaken for a Yankee in Texas.
I worked in Dallas County and was never mistaken for a Yankee.
 
Back to Springfield... Saw a bit of Vivek holding a town Hall there this evening, and I think he was surprised when some of his most xenophobic tag lines only seemed to get a smattering of applause...People didn't seem too receptive to the characterizing of Haitians as "illegals" or the idea of mass deporting them...

Small anti-hate demonstration in the town last night, so it seems the idea of a Trump visit might not be greeted with opem arms by the entire community...

 
Back to Springfield... Saw a bit of Vivek holding a town Hall there this evening, and I think he was surprised when some of his most xenophobic tag lines only seemed to get a smattering of applause...People didn't seem too receptive to the characterizing of Haitians as "illegals" or the idea of mass deporting them...

Small anti-hate demonstration in the town last night, so it seems the idea of a Trump visit might not be greeted with opem arms by the entire community...

 
Counterpoint from the governor of Ohio (who certainly knows more about this situation than Mr. Ramaswamy).

I can't read it lars, but if he is trying to justify overrunning Springfield, he's a moron. The notion that all immigration is good is incorrect. The fact it is a national story and residents are pissed off proves my point. If they would have had a better policy and kept the immigration to say 2,000, it's a non story and a lot more beneficial to Springfield. A lot of the issues and friction goes away. It would be refreshing if they admitted their mistakes, but politicians don't do that anymore.
 
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I can't read it lars, but if he is trying to justify overrunning Springfield, he's a moron. The notion that all immigration is good is incorrect. The fact it is a national story and residents are pissed off proves my point. If they would have had a better policy and kept the immigration to say 2,000, it's a non story and a lot more beneficial to Springfield. A lot of the issues and friction goes away. It would be refreshing if they admitted their mistakes, but politicians don't do that anymore.
Nah, his point was using Sprinfield the way Trump/Vance have is irresponsible and wrong b/c the Haitians are here legally. He believes Trump and VAnce are ****ing up the immigration argument by focusing on legal immigration. I think he's right. But that's the Trump/Vance playbook. Instead of being critical in a way that really defines the problem and offers solutions, they're just mean.
 
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Nah, his point was using Sprinfield the way Trump/Vance have is irresponsible and wrong b/c the Haitians are here legally. He believes Trump and VAnce are ****ing up the immigration argument by focusing on legal immigration. I think he's right. But that's the Trump/Vance playbook. Instead of being critical in a way that really defines the problem and offers solutions, they're just mean.
Gotcha. Thanks for the response. I think DeWine is trying to deflect because he is being called out. Personally, I don't care if the Haitian immigrants are legal or illegal, it's terrible policy to allow that many into a city of that size. It actually pisses me off, because DeWine is indirectly admitting he is fine with overrunning cities. Does he take any responsibility for the issues or is just Trump/Vance are dumb?
 
Gotcha. Thanks for the response. I think DeWine is trying to deflect because he is being called out. Personally, I don't care if the Haitian immigrants are legal or illegal, it's terrible policy to allow that many into a city of that size. It actually pisses me off, because DeWine is indirectly admitting he is fine with overrunning cities. Does he take any responsibility for the issues or is just Trump/Vance are dumb?

He's a little pimp.
 
Gotcha. Thanks for the response. I think DeWine is trying to deflect because he is being called out. Personally, I don't care if the Haitian immigrants are legal or illegal, it's terrible policy to allow that many into a city of that size. It actually pisses me off, because DeWine is indirectly admitting he is fine with overrunning cities. Does he take any responsibility for the issues or is just Trump/Vance are dumb?
More of a big tent message than anything else. But, like GWB, I think Dewine believes immigration should be celebrated when done legally and that scapegoating the Haitians here is wrong, as is thinking everyone in Springfield is a racist hillbilly.
 
I honestly have no clue 🤷🏻‍♂️

10-27% of illegals are registered to vote. Many will. It’s a major problem and all democrats do is blow smoke up peoples ass.
 
Thanks for answer. So if another channel doesn’t open, what happens? Are they eligible for legal employment forever? This will be an issue for employers in our area.
I do think for a place like Springfield that will be important. From what I've heard, factories and other businesses that likely would have closed had they not had an influx of Haitians come are still going strong. Hopefully the rug isn't pulled out from under them.
 
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