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In contrast, Purdue has not raised tuition for 12 years. Despite this, Purdue was just ranked #10 in the Global University Visibility rankings - ahead of Cambridge, Yale, and UCLA.
Colleges Spend Like There’s No Tomorrow. ‘These Places Are Just Devouring Money.’
Students foot the bill for flagship state universities that pour money into new buildings and programs with little pushback.
Hopefully no paywall, but if there is, let me know.
In contrast, Purdue has not raised tuition for 12 years. Despite this, Purdue was just ranked #10 in the Global University Visibility rankings - ahead of Cambridge, Yale, and UCLA.
Purdue University ascends to the top 10 of the Global University Visibility rankings
Purdue University has once again attained international acclaim, earning a top-10 spot among the most prominent and recognized universities worldwide in the Global University Visibility (GUV) rankings.www.purdue.edu
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Spoiled. That’s what they are. They should put trailers on that yogi’s land. With ac units in the windows. No more buildings. Annexes. Bring both the faculty and students down to earth. No more names either. Numbers. Spanish 101 in ANNEX 232-D. Maybe name one after unclemark when I get that Fing Powerball to pop
Very interesting. I know iu for a state school accepts more out of state students than many/mostSlightly off-topic, all Indiana schools are struggling to get in-state students. Yes, that includes IU and PU. Simply put, there's almost no scholarship money for in-state (see article below). This isn't just an Indiana problem. My oldest went to Northern Colorado, her freshman roommate was one of the overachievers who could have went just about anywhere. Her parents were so excited she had a thousand-dollar scholarship to attend. I couldn't tell them our little less high-scoring daughter had a $3000 scholarship. But it all makes sense. If you want to buy my widget for $100, I might not offer you an incentive. If Mark is looking at the same widget for $300, I might well offer him a $100 rebate to close the deal.
So we have incentives that are off. In the context of the market, it makes sense. In the context of what we want universities to do, it is askew.
Will Indiana's economy fall off higher education enrollment cliff?
While high schools across Indiana are educating more students than they have in the past two decades, the state’s college enrollment is at its lowest in recent history. To many,www.reporter.net
Interesting that the most inflationary expenses are higher ed and health care— both are heavily dependent on public subsidies and direct payments.Colleges Spend Like There’s No Tomorrow. ‘These Places Are Just Devouring Money.’
Students foot the bill for flagship state universities that pour money into new buildings and programs with little pushback.
Hopefully no paywall, but if there is, let me know.
Universities aren't educational institutions anymore. They are money making endeavors. Our entire education system is among the most expensive in the developed world on one hand while providing mediocre results on the other. They aren't educational institutions, they are credentialing institutions for the vast majority of students.Slightly off-topic, all Indiana schools are struggling to get in-state students. Yes, that includes IU and PU. Simply put, there's almost no scholarship money for in-state (see article below). This isn't just an Indiana problem. My oldest went to Northern Colorado, her freshman roommate was one of the overachievers who could have went just about anywhere. Her parents were so excited she had a thousand-dollar scholarship to attend. I couldn't tell them our little less high-scoring daughter had a $3000 scholarship. But it all makes sense. If you want to buy my widget for $100, I might not offer you an incentive. If Mark is looking at the same widget for $300, I might well offer him a $100 rebate to close the deal.
So we have incentives that are off. In the context of the market, it makes sense. In the context of what we want universities to do, it is askew.
Will Indiana's economy fall off higher education enrollment cliff?
While high schools across Indiana are educating more students than they have in the past two decades, the state’s college enrollment is at its lowest in recent history. To many,
Mrs. TMFT witnessed the same thing as a teacher where top-30 kids at her giant Indianapolis area school had trouble making it into IU & PU because, presumably, they were trying to get out-of-state sticker price paying kids in.
It’s been a long time but chapel hill was my top choice for both law school and undergrad. I want to say they were limited to like 25 percent out of state. It seems iu has been on the decline save certain programs. Maybe the state is small and they need out of state for money and more competitive students. I don’t know
Malcolm Gladwell had a podcast episode from about five years ago talking about this same thing. I'll try to link it later.Colleges Spend Like There’s No Tomorrow. ‘These Places Are Just Devouring Money.’
Students foot the bill for flagship state universities that pour money into new buildings and programs with little pushback.
Hopefully no paywall, but if there is, let me know.
I remember this same discussion while I worked at IU. The state was giving less money while putting more pressure on schools to make up the rest. In the end, this hurts the middle-class (Pell ineligible) students the most because schools then have to apply the majority of their funds to the most needy group (low-income). The middle-class students and families then have to take out more loans in order to pay for school. CU schools have pretty much the same problem.Slightly off-topic, all Indiana schools are struggling to get in-state students. Yes, that includes IU and PU. Simply put, there's almost no scholarship money for in-state (see article below). This isn't just an Indiana problem. My oldest went to Northern Colorado, her freshman roommate was one of the overachievers who could have went just about anywhere. Her parents were so excited she had a thousand-dollar scholarship to attend. I couldn't tell them our little less high-scoring daughter had a $3000 scholarship. But it all makes sense. If you want to buy my widget for $100, I might not offer you an incentive. If Mark is looking at the same widget for $300, I might well offer him a $100 rebate to close the deal.
So we have incentives that are off. In the context of the market, it makes sense. In the context of what we want universities to do, it is askew.
Will Indiana's economy fall off higher education enrollment cliff?
While high schools across Indiana are educating more students than they have in the past two decades, the state’s college enrollment is at its lowest in recent history. To many,
Purdue (and IU to lesser extent) seeks out the international students who pay out of state freight +++. Sure, Purdue hasn’t raised tuition but it accepts way fewer instate kids and gives them $0 In scholarships. It is actually very hard to get into Purdue for in state kids these days.
Indiana state universities get very few state dollars these days. They have been forced to find that money elsewhere, which often comes from out of state kids paying higher rates.
Because 50% are coming from China and India to learn the hard sciences and our profit driven University system sees them as better money makers than native born students?
Anecdotally, none of my Indiana friends have kids going to IU. I know three different families from Maryland, one from Ohio and one from Connecticut sending their kids to IU.
I'm not sure I understand how this bears on how good the university system is here. It's the best in the world, from what I understand--that's why those Chinese and Indian kids are coming here.Because 50% are coming from China and India to learn the hard sciences and our profit driven University system sees them as better money makers than native born students?
I don’t disagree with you, but at least at the state school level, the GOP has consistently cut state funding to state universities. Foreign students pay the most. We could incentivize schools to accept less foreign students, however that would require more state funds. I don’t see that happening.Because 50% are coming from China and India to learn the hard sciences and our profit driven University system sees them as better money makers than native born students?
They have Steve Alford haircuts and get tormented by east coasters?
Slightly off-topic, all Indiana schools are struggling to get in-state students. Yes, that includes IU and PU. Simply put, there's almost no scholarship money for in-state (see article below). This isn't just an Indiana problem. My oldest went to Northern Colorado, her freshman roommate was one of the overachievers who could have went just about anywhere. Her parents were so excited she had a thousand-dollar scholarship to attend. I couldn't tell them our little less high-scoring daughter had a $3000 scholarship. But it all makes sense. If you want to buy my widget for $100, I might not offer you an incentive. If Mark is looking at the same widget for $300, I might well offer him a $100 rebate to close the deal.
So we have incentives that are off. In the context of the market, it makes sense. In the context of what we want universities to do, it is askew.
Will Indiana's economy fall off higher education enrollment cliff?
While high schools across Indiana are educating more students than they have in the past two decades, the state’s college enrollment is at its lowest in recent history. To many,
Because 50% are coming from China and India to learn the hard sciences and our profit driven University system sees them as better money makers than native born students?
That’s why my kids will be attending USI, the Harvard of Kentuckiana.Just not sustainable:
The cost of an Ivy League education just topped $90,000 per year at several schools
Increases come as student loan debt hovers at $1.3 trillion.fortune.com
I think USI is more expensive than Purdue. I’m not 100% sure about that but when my son was looking at costs…that seems to be what I remember reading
What did I say? The Harvard of Kentuckiana.
You were definitely closer than I was comfortable with.
