It was probably Huma using his device, I would think. Married people are weird.
FBI reopens Clinton case
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The way things are going, Weiner might run for the presidency in 20 years or so.
No normal person will run, and Weiner may be all that's left.
To me that's like sharing a toothbrush. Not gonna happen.
I might have to go along with Trump on this one. This guy should never have been close to anything that potentially had sensitive material.
This. My wife and I would share a toothbrush before we'd share a laptop. Not that there's necessarily anything to hide, it's just not something we would think of doing. Besides, she's got her Windows machine configured all stoopidly, and she's convinced (wrongly) that she'd have to become some kind of geek to learn Linux and use mine.
Nate Silver's response includes this gem:
"...surfaced as part of an investigation into lewd messages that Weiner sent to underage women."
Underage women? You mean girls? I'd write more, but I must go to my daughter's Underage Women's soccer team gathering....
"...surfaced as part of an investigation into lewd messages that Weiner sent to underage women."
Underage women? You mean girls? I'd write more, but I must go to my daughter's Underage Women's soccer team gathering....
Nope.
New investigative activity in a previously completed investigation is not a nothing burger. It really makes no difference how you phrase it, a candidate for POTUS is once again under an active felony investigation. This is anything but a nothing burger.
Who would have thought that a weiner named Tony would bring Hillary down.
I always thought it might be a weiner named Bill.
Hasn't the FBI said they do not even know if any of the emails are related to the previous investigation? If that is true, how do we know?Nope.
New investigative activity in a previously completed investigation is not a nothing burger. It really makes no difference how you phrase it, a candidate for POTUS is once again under an active felony investigation. This is anything but a nothing burger.
We'll, we don't. But for the FBI to make that statement suggests to me that they've seen something. I doubt they'd open such a worm can based on nothing at all.
Doesn't matter. This won't be over until well after the election, so the damage is done.
It's damaging, but not fatal. Hillary will still win comfortably. The real question is whether she spends her entire term battling legal issues.
Probably Huma is the one in danger, but if she left something classified on his phone, she deserves to go to jail for felony stupidity.
No, the FBI didn't say that. Comey said investigators in an unrelated case (wiener) said they found emails which appeared to be related to the Clinton investigation. The agents brought the matter to Comey and Comey said investigate the emails. But you need to put this in context. Comey already knew about the emails which contained classified material and that Hillary was extremely careless in handling them. He also knows the impact this has on the campaign. I don't think we would approve reopening the investigation and make this announcement if all that he suspected was confirmation of information he already decided wasn't prosecutable.
I agree.
Even without this new information, she faced significant honesty and ethical headwinds in being an effective POTUS. This makes it worse for her and all of us.
There is that.
The question is also whether Huma is willing to take the fall for Clinton in order to clear the air for a Clinton presidency. I guess we might find out how loyal of a friend Huma is, or how ruthless Hillary is if she throws Huma under the bus.
Quibble.
Comey didn't make an announcement. He sent a letter to various members of Congress, apparently according to DOJ guidelines, and Chaffetz, patriot that he is, immediately went public about it.
Takes longer, particularly on the phone and I don't always want to ignore the rest of the post, just call out a specific portion of it.
Right
But they obiously met some kind of a threshold in order for Comey to blow up the campaign. They are not insignificant on their face.
Do you really think Comey thought the letter would not be public knowledge? I think the letter is an announcement.
Taking swipes at Chaffetz doesn't add any meaningful points to this discussion. I recall you wiped a post of mine for a similar gratuitous swipe.
I have yet to see any reference to a standard. This story suggests he risked the election either way. Wait for proof and if it is found post 11/8 face GOP wrath, or write the memo now and anger Dems. Isn't this the rock and a hard place? Can you link a story suggesting the emails meet some criteria?
I swiped a post of yours because it was a troll. Chafera is part of this thread and has been since page 1.
I don't think Comey is an idiot, but if Newsweek is right, he had no choice. DOJ rules required a letter. If that's the case, it's unfair for you to assign him a motive of any kind.
I don't understand. Lawyers use threshold questions and answers every day in their work. In this case Comey wouldn't cause all this commotion if there wasn't something in the information the agents brought to him that suggested the situation required further investigation.
The information that suggested further investigation was simply that the emails exist. How is this difficult for you?
It would seem the people searching the laptop would be sex crimes experts. Who knows what they know about the Clinton case.
The word Comey used was "pertinent" meaning they discovered emails "pertinent" to the previous investigation.
I'm working on a screenplay, working title, "Ladoga and the Attack of the Facts!" It's 3,485,000 pages long so far.
This IS easy for me.
The emails had a subject matter. The emails were connected to the office of the United States Secretary of State. The emails were on one or more devices where they had no business being. The devices themselves were in custody of at least one person who has no business seeing the emails. The devices probably had no security protocol. The devices were connected to a sex crimes investigation. The emails involved official business of the United States Government.
And this is just stuff that anybody can reasonably conclude from what we know. who knows what the agents told Comey in confidence.
Lots of assumptions you're making. I can think of all sorts of reasons the FBI might decide these might need to be examined in the context of the Clinton probe.
1. The emails were sent by, forwarded from, or quoted Hillary.
2. The emails were copies of, or quoted, emails that were sent to, or CC'd Hillary.
3. The emails involved people talking about the probe itself.
4. The emails involved people talking about the SOS's server setup itself.
None of those necessarily imply that they were anywhere they should not be, or contain anything that should not be there.
No, I'm just reminding you not to jump to conclusions, which is pretty funny, because that's a high horse you get on yourself when it suits you.
But he was your hero then and you loved him now not so much!
I agree it is beyond pale!
