FBI/FB

[DANC]

The FBI didn’t ask FB to suppress the Hunter story. They tipped FB off to the fact that Russian propaganda farms were going to dump a bunch of false stories prior to the 2020 election which they did. And still do. The Hunter story was allowed to be shared on FB without issue. FB did suppress the story from randomly showing on feeds. Didn’t stop it but did slow it down. The reason though is because at the time the only “organization” sharing were political gossip mags like the NY post and guys like Alex Jones. You know. Crack pots.
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I watched the entire interview. He never says the FBI asked to suppress the hunter story.

The FBI comes to you and says hey, your neighbor has been doing some hinky shit. We're watching him. You might want to watch out for him.

Are you going to hang out at your neighbors?

Get real, for once.

You calling the NY Post a gossip mag after they broke the Hunter laptop story is you parroting the Dim narrative. Your sense of reality is warped.

 

[Bloom.]

They had the computer for a year. All they had to do was flipping turn it on. Again, you are creating your own reality.

And what if they didn't for awhile? You don't have a clue of the timetable. No one does involved in this discussion.

What if they don't believe the information on the drive is credible or actionable?

You're connecting your own dots.

 

[mrhighlife]

The FBI comes to you and says hey, your neighbor has been doing some hinky shit. We're watching him. You might want to watch out for him.

Are you going to hang out at your neighbors?

Get real, for once.

You calling the NY Post a gossip mag after they broke the Hunter laptop story is you parroting the Dim narrative. Your sense of reality is warped.

The fbi never mentioned Hunter to FB you dolt. At least according to Zuckerberg. Which is your only basis for the current argument.

And yes. The New York post is a shit mag. Everyone knows it. Good for them if they got this one. Every dog has its day.

 

[Ohio Guy]

Why do you think it was real? Because the FBI said so?

Why do you think it wasn't? Because Donald Trump says so at his rallies?

The Mueller report had 37 indictments and enough guilty pleas and penalties that it more than paid for itself.

Russian interference in the 2016 election was real.

 

[Ohio Guy]

Well, to paraphrase, it depends what the definition of "interference" is.

Did Russia have computer bots post stuff on American websites that tried to influence weak-minded folks to not vote for Hillary? Of course. Hell, even the German Chancellor publicly stated a preference FOR Hillary. Was that "influence"? Of course it was. Did the DNC try to get citizens to buy lies to vote for Hillary/against Trump? Of course. Did Trump and the GOP publicize lies to try and get people to vote for Trump/against Hillary? Of course. Did Michale More try and correct the misinformation nd warn theDNC and Hillary "you are losing"? Of course. Do all foreign nations try and influence all elections in other nations to their benefit? Of course.

It's selective outrage.

Smart guys like you get to vote and are not influenced by anything you choose to disbelieve. But ... dumb people get to vote too. And if they are influenced - that's the way it is.

The night following very first election I ever voted in (1976) I was visiting a friend. He stepped outside to receive a $10 bill and a half pint of Jack Daniels for voting "right" earlier in the day.

In 1984, I headed off to law school. Rick McIntyre ran for Congress as a Republican in Indiana's 8th Congressional District against Bloomington Democrat Mayor Frank McCloskey. McIntyre won by 34 votes. There was a state of Indiana recount. McIntyre won by 418 votes. Congress was controlled by Democrats 269-165 before the election. Congress ordered a GAO recount. The GAO declared McCloskey the winner by 4 votes, The GAO refused to consider 32 unopened absentee ballots. Congress set up a committee of 2 Democrats and 1 Republican to make a recommendation. The committee said "seat McCloskey - no special election." The Republicans walked out and the Democrats seated McCloskey.

House Votes to Seat McCloskey : Republicans Stalk Out, Boycott Swearing In

Republican congressmen angrily walked out of the House chamber Wednesday after the Democratic-controlled House voted largely along party lines to award Indiana's 8th Congressional District seat to Democratic incumbent Frank McCloskey over his Republican rival, Richard D.

www.latimes.com

I have no illusions about perfectly "fair" elections. Truth is the first casualty in every campaign. The internet just makes it easier to kill.

PS - I'm still waiting on the video of Russian prostitutes urinating on Trump in a Moscow hotel. Or, a estimate of how many votes that lie persuaded will be an acceptable substitute..

As a guy who voted Libertarian in both Clinton/Trump and Biden/Trump, I scoff at the suggestion that Trump cheated more, and at the suggestion that every legal vote was counted in both elections, and that no illegal votes were counted in either. This ain't my first rodeo.

I think there is a clear cut legal definition of what interference is or was.

 

[swman]

Aren't you the clown who was calling people klansman on here? That's rich. Did you forget that? Are you battling Old Timers?

Yep I was. As we say, the shoe fits wear it. As I said in earlier posts, due to gay and black family members there r code words and phrases said that hide bigotry. I also said that if u sit quietly and listen long enough to those people, they will reveal their prejudices clearly. Have kicked friends to the curb when they revealed that trait. And recently I had just such an incident here in r new community in Florida. A guy we’d known for two years since we moved here was seemingly the nicest guy in the world until we found out differently during a conversation. I got up and left and afterwards he begged my wife to convince me not to say anything to his wife about what he said because evidently he’d done this sort of thing a year earlier and it put her in a severe depression where she wouldn’t get out of bed for weeks. I had no intention of telling his wife what he said. I just decided I would not speak to him again and would no longer consider him a friend. I can forgive him because of my Christian belief but I don’t have to associate with him.
If someone on here speaks that way I will call it out. If I judge incorrectly I will apologize. But let’s face it, none of us really know anything about one another other than what we read here unless u know the person personally. And that means we can misjudge as well. If I have done that I truly apologize but I have heard so many hateful things said about my family members that the antennae r always up. My father treated everyone the same regardless and that’s how my entire family treats others.

 

[DANC]

The fbi never mentioned Hunter to FB you dolt. At least according to Zuckerberg. Which is your only basis for the current argument.

And yes. The New York post is a shit mag. Everyone knows it. Good for them if they got this one. Every dog has its day.

They didn't, dupe?



The NYT has been caught lying so many times, it's not surprising you've been duped.

 

[DANC]

Why do you think it wasn't? Because Donald Trump says so at his rallies?

The Mueller report had 37 indictments and enough guilty pleas and penalties that it more than paid for itself.

Russian interference in the 2016 election was real.

I didn't say it was or wasn't. I was just wondering what you based your opinion on. Why don't you want to say?

The Mueller report found nothing to charge Trump with. But keep clinging.

 

[Ohio Guy]

I didn't say it was or wasn't. I was just wondering what you based your opinion on. Why don't you want to say?

The Mueller report found nothing to charge Trump with. But keep clinging.

I did say.

And I didn't say they we able to tie it back to Trump. That's not what I was talking about. I think it's often lost in Trump's "Russia! Russia! Russia!" bit that there actually was illegal interference in the 2016 election.

The Mueller Report led to indictments, arrests and convictions for Russian interference in the 2016 election.

 

[Bowlmania]

FB did suppress the story from randomly showing on feeds. Didn’t stop it but did slow it down. The reason though is because at the time the only “organization” sharing were political gossip mags like the NY post and guys like Alex Jones. You know. Crack pots.

Yes, and that was entirely Zuckerberg's call.

One of the most interesting features of the whole scenario is that the New York Post reporters who broke the story were reluctant to have their names attached to the story over concerns the information was inaccurate!

 

[cosmickid]

Of course not. Whoever stole it should be punished - and I think have been.

Are you defending paying for false information about a Presidential candidate and passing it on ithout any punishment?.

The only time the FBI passed on "false information" about a Presidential candidate to the public was in 2016 when they released the info regarding Weiner's laptop in Oct, about a month prior to the election. Don't even pretend that anyone in the public realm was made aware of the fact that a Steele dossier even existed, much less it's contents prior to Nov 2016...

Comey made an error of judgement in 2016 in releasing the letter announcing the investigation into Weiner's laptop. There wasn't any new info at all, but once the genie was out of the bottle, you can't put it back in...

All that Wray was trying to insure in 2020 by warning of Russian misinformation and not wanting to discuss anything to do with an ALLEGED laptop, was to keep the FBI from making the same mistake they made in 2016. As of yet there are no charges related to any of that, but according to you all of that should have been litigated in the court of public opinion prior to the election? Just like an investigation was launched into Hillary in Oct 2016 and opinions and votes shifted on something that amounted to nothing?

Wray was another lifelong Republican appointed by Trump and Barr was trump's AG. I'd argue that if they were determined to keep the issue out of the public realm prior to the election it was not to favor Biden, but rather to avoid repeating 2016 when Comey (unintentionally) made a move that ended up likely electing Trump. Your side seems to be arguing that since they wanted to remain neutral they were intentionally choosing to help Biden. Why exactly would that be?

 

[cosmickid]

You are correct about Project Veritas. The FBI raided O’Keefe’s house and office over that diary, took stuff that couldn’t possibly be related to the diary, and violated several constitutional protections because it could. O’Keefe has not been charged with a federal crime because there isn’t any. One more example where the FBI acted without evidence,

Isn't purchasing stolen items a crime, and a Federal crime if you cross state lines? What exactly makes O'Keefe's operation above the law when they act like any other common fence, and knowingly purchase STOLEN property? Are you going to argue they thought it had been obtained legally?

 

[Bowlmania]

I didn't say it was or wasn't. I was just wondering what you based your opinion on. Why don't you want to say?

The Mueller report found nothing to charge Trump with. But keep clinging.

Of course there was Russian interference in the 2016 election. Only an idiot (take a bow) would claim otherwise.

No ‘Hoax’: Bipartisan Senate Report Confirms Russian 2016 Role, Putin Ordered DNC Hack, More

A sweeping new report from the Senate Intelligence Committee found that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the hack of the Democratic National Committee servers.

www.forbes.com

 

[cosmickid]

Did Facebook posts by Russian bots influence your vote?

What they did was post comments that contained disinformation, and people who saw comments sections repeating lies and disinformation spread them as well, not knowing they were false .So yeah, for millions of people who rely on FB posts to provide them "news" and "information" and form their opinions based on that, there's a very good chance that it influenced their vote...

 

[mrhighlife]

They didn't, dupe?

View embedded media

The NYT has been caught lying so many times, it's not surprising you've been duped.

Just watch the interview. That fact that you refuse is mind blowing. I'm not even arguing your entire conspiracy. Just the very blatant fact that in that interview, which I watched, mark Zuckerberg never says the FBI told him to suppress the Hunter Biden story.

The overall conspiracy might be right. I doubt it. But maybe. However in this interview Zuckerberg never says the fbi told him to suppress the Hunter story.

 

[IUCrazy2]

Well the name calling by the extreme right seems to b their playbook. Socialist, communist etc. Goes both ways. Nearly impossible in this day and age to persuade someone with your vision. That’s what used to b done in the old days. But when it’s two years on and you’re still litigating a legitimate election it’s fruitless. Not saying that there was no election fraud because there always is. But it’s incredibly rare and in 2020 most of those prosecuted voted illegally for the loser.

Charlie Crist To Florida Voters: If You Support DeSantis, ‘I Don’t Want Your Vote’

Democratic Florida gubernatorial candidate Charlie Crist lashed out at supporters of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, saying they have

dailycaller.com

Kathy Hochul’s call for 5.4M Republicans to leave New York is dangerous and disgusting

It’s time to put partisanship aside for the good of the state and its residents. Those who still live here are all New Yorkers — even the ones the governor disagrees with.

nypost.com

Got anything to say about civility "former Republican who only left because Trump was so appalling"?

As I said when you first arrived. Transparent. Birds run into you thinking the way is clear.

 

[DANC]

I did say.

And I didn't say they we able to tie it back to Trump. That's not what I was talking about. I think it's often lost in Trump's "Russia! Russia! Russia!" bit that there actually was illegal interference in the 2016 election.

The Mueller Report led to indictments, arrests and convictions for Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Then you're talking about 2 different situations - Russia Russia Russia and attempts by Russia to influence the election. Nothing to do with Trump.

Re: the Mueller report: so what?

 

[DANC]

The only time the FBI passed on "false information" about a Presidential candidate to the public was in 2016 when they released the info regarding Weiner's laptop in Oct, about a month prior to the election. Don't even pretend that anyone in the public realm was made aware of the fact that a Steele dossier even existed, much less it's contents prior to Nov 2016...

Comey made an error of judgement in 2016 in releasing the letter announcing the investigation into Weiner's laptop. There wasn't any new info at all, but once the genie was out of the bottle, you can't put it back in...

All that Wray was trying to insure in 2020 by warning of Russian misinformation and not wanting to discuss anything to do with an ALLEGED laptop, was to keep the FBI from making the same mistake they made in 2016. As of yet there are no charges related to any of that, but according to you all of that should have been litigated in the court of public opinion prior to the election? Just like an investigation was launched into Hillary in Oct 2016 and opinions and votes shifted on something that amounted to nothing?

Wray was another lifelong Republican appointed by Trump and Barr was trump's AG. I'd argue that if they were determined to keep the issue out of the public realm prior to the election it was not to favor Biden, but rather to avoid repeating 2016 when Comey (unintentionally) made a move that ended up likely electing Trump. Your side seems to be arguing that since they wanted to remain neutral they were intentionally choosing to help Biden. Why exactly would that be?

Altering an e-mail to get a FISA warrant is passing on false information, dupe.

"Error in judgement" my ass. But not surprising you would think so, since you're so used to being duped.

 

[DANC]

Isn't purchasing stolen items a crime, and a Federal crime if you cross state lines? What exactly makes O'Keefe's operation above the law when they act like any other common fence, and knowingly purchase STOLEN property? Are you going to argue they thought it had been obtained legally?

How would they have known it was stolen?

You don't know and are assuming again, duped by the narrative.

 

[IUCrazy2]

Just watch the interview. That fact that you refuse is mind blowing. I'm not even arguing your entire conspiracy. Just the very blatant fact that in that interview, which I watched, mark Zuckerberg never says the FBI told him to suppress the Hunter Biden story.

The overall conspiracy might be right. I doubt it. But maybe. However in this interview Zuckerberg never says the fbi told him to suppress the Hunter story.

Of course they didn't. That looks to icky.

Here is what they did:

The neighborhood goon squad shows up to your shop and let's you know that there have been some unsavory folks showing up to the neighborhood and that shops should not do business with them. Keep your eye out. Shops that do business with them could find themselves out of business to protect the neighborhood. You agree because you don't want your shop messed with. Two days later you see the top lieutenants for the goon squad standing on the street corner talking about how Mr. Smith and his supporters are not welcome in the community.

Mr. Smith's wife shows up the next day to shop and you refuse her service because you don't want to serve unsavory folks.

Did the goon squad directly tell you to turn Mrs. Smith away? No. Did the goon squad get their point across anyway? Absolutely.

 

[mrhighlife]

I didn't say the FBI told him to suppress the story - learn to read.

I gave you an example where the FBI can 'suggest' something without telling you to do it. No doubt it went right over your head. If it wasn't you, it was Ohio, but you're both tweedle dee and tweedle DUMP when it comes to this story.

That's the entire premise of this thread. Which you fell for hook line and sinker. Either that or you just like wasting everyone's time by changing the subject.

 

[DANC]

That's the entire premise of this thread. Which you fell for hook line and sinker. Either that or you just like wasting everyone's time by changing the subject.

Quit making shit up.

 

[T.M.P.]

lmao .. Zuckerturd does an interview mentioning curtailing Russian propaganda, right wing media condenses the whole gist of it into "Hunter Biden", and then ...

 

[IUCrazy2]

lmao .. Zuckerturd does an interview mentioning curtailing Russian propaganda, right wing media condenses the whole gist of it into "Hunter Biden", and then ...

We can talk about all the people who got squashed and banned for having opinions about COVID and masks that (shock face) turned out to be completely factual months and years after the fact. Like masking being next to useless, particularly the cloth masks that were ubiquitous in 2020 and 2021. This is something that I guarantee a bunch of posters on this board still believe to be misinformation because the throttling of opinions by tech companies at the behest of the government is really effective at setting a false narrative that doesn't die.

 

[ribbont]

Why did the FBI originally take possession? Did they have reason to suspect it contained incriminating evidence? Or was it turned over to them in the hope they would search it and find incriminating evidence? If the latter, that probably answers your questions.

I would think it would be the former as the FBI isn't a drop off point for used laptops like Staples. A computer repairman, from Delaware, gave them a laptop he thought they should look at. A 5 minute review would have found the videos and revealed it was Hunter's. So they kept it and sat on it for some reason.

I wonder if Bernie and his supporters wish the FBI had acted on the laptop? Bernie was leading in the polls in Jan 2020, BTW.

 

[Rockport Zebra]

Well, to paraphrase, it depends what the definition of "interference" is.

Did Russia have computer bots post stuff on American websites that tried to influence weak-minded folks to not vote for Hillary? Of course. Hell, even the German Chancellor publicly stated a preference FOR Hillary. Was that "influence"? Of course it was. Did the DNC try to get citizens to buy lies to vote for Hillary/against Trump? Of course. Did Trump and the GOP publicize lies to try and get people to vote for Trump/against Hillary? Of course. Did Michale More try and correct the misinformation nd warn theDNC and Hillary "you are losing"? Of course. Do all foreign nations try and influence all elections in other nations to their benefit? Of course.

It's selective outrage.

Smart guys like you get to vote and are not influenced by anything you choose to disbelieve. But ... dumb people get to vote too. And if they are influenced - that's the way it is.

The night following very first election I ever voted in (1976) I was visiting a friend. He stepped outside to receive a $10 bill and a half pint of Jack Daniels for voting "right" earlier in the day.

In 1984, I headed off to law school. Rick McIntyre ran for Congress as a Republican in Indiana's 8th Congressional District against Bloomington Democrat Mayor Frank McCloskey. McIntyre won by 34 votes. There was a state of Indiana recount. McIntyre won by 418 votes. Congress was controlled by Democrats 269-165 before the election. Congress ordered a GAO recount. The GAO declared McCloskey the winner by 4 votes, The GAO refused to consider 32 unopened absentee ballots. Congress set up a committee of 2 Democrats and 1 Republican to make a recommendation. The committee said "seat McCloskey - no special election." The Republicans walked out and the Democrats seated McCloskey.

House Votes to Seat McCloskey : Republicans Stalk Out, Boycott Swearing In

Republican congressmen angrily walked out of the House chamber Wednesday after the Democratic-controlled House voted largely along party lines to award Indiana's 8th Congressional District seat to Democratic incumbent Frank McCloskey over his Republican rival, Richard D.

www.latimes.com

I have no illusions about perfectly "fair" elections. Truth is the first casualty in every campaign. The internet just makes it easier to kill.

PS - I'm still waiting on the video of Russian prostitutes urinating on Trump in a Moscow hotel. Or, a estimate of how many votes that lie persuaded will be an acceptable substitute..

As a guy who voted Libertarian in both Clinton/Trump and Biden/Trump, I scoff at the suggestion that Trump cheated more, and at the suggestion that every legal vote was counted in both elections, and that no illegal votes were counted in either. This ain't my first rodeo.

Lincoln the movie again.

 

[Ohio Guy]

Then you're talking about 2 different situations - Russia Russia Russia and attempts by Russia to influence the election. Nothing to do with Trump.

Re: the Mueller report: so what?

I'm not talking about two different situations. Members of Trump's campaign team were indicted. The Mueller Report was investigating whether or not there was Russian interference in the 2016 election and whether or not there was collusion from the Trump campaign. They stopped just short of finding collusion.

Why am I explaining this?

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Well the name calling by the extreme right seems to b their playbook. Socialist, communist etc. Goes both ways. Nearly impossible in this day and age to persuade someone with your vision. That’s what used to b done in the old days. But when it’s two years on and you’re still litigating a legitimate election it’s fruitless. Not saying that there was no election fraud because there always is. But it’s incredibly rare and in 2020 most of those prosecuted voted illegally for the loser.

Nope. Not in my book.

What the mainstream Democrat in Congress now proposes is socialism. And the radical left is still communist - openly. And both support suppression of speech. And both threaten violence when they don't get their way - while decrying violence by their opponents. (Hypocrisy is the first tool in the bag.)

Even before the 2020 election, anybody who refused to voice support for Biden loud enough - including Libertarians and others - were called racists by the Propagandist Puppet Left.

That BS really got going when Trump said there were "good people" on "both sides" of the debate about removing Confederate statues. The left portrayed it as him saying there were good people on both sides of the "white supremacy" debate - and it was off to the races. After that, if you did not rend your clothing and declare all Trump voters heretics loudly enough, i.e. if you voted Libertarian because both sides were crazy, you were branded as a white nationalist supporter, a Klan supporter, a racist, a fascist, a Nazi (by people who either never knew history or forgot it or ignored it like a vote whore).

These are people who jettisoned friends and family over Donald Trump. Who supported firing nurses over not getting a vaccine after demanding those nurses work without a vaccine. Who called you a murderer if you claimed the science showed a vaccine did not stop SPREAD, or suggested natural immunity was sufficient for survivors, and shifted to "well, at least it helps stop serious illness" only after even Fauci came off the lie.

The Democrat leaders of 2017-2021 - and an uncomfortable percent of Clinton/Biden voters - were simply without any moral compass. “By any means necessary.” Power junkies.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Nope. Not in my book.

What the mainstream Democrat in Congress now proposes is socialism. And the radical left is still communist - openly. And both support suppression of speech. And both threaten violence when they don't get their way - while decrying violence by their opponents. (Hypocrisy is the first tool in the bag.)

Even before the 2020 election, anybody who refused to voice support for Biden loud enough - including Libertarians and others - were called racists by the Propagandist Puppet Left.

That BS really got going when Trump said there were "good people" on "both sides" of the debate about removing Confederate statues. The left portrayed it as him saying there were good people on both sides of the "white supremacy" debate - and it was off to the races. After that, if you did not rend your clothing and declare all Trump voters heretics loudly enough, i.e. if you voted Libertarian because both sides were crazy, you were branded as a white nationalist supporter, a Klan supporter, a racist, a fascist, a Nazi (by people who either never knew history or forgot it or ignored it like a vote whore).

These are people who jettisoned friends and family over Donald Trump. Who supported firing nurses over not getting a vaccine after demanding those nurses work without a vaccine. Who called you a murderer if you claimed the science showed a vaccine did not stop SPREAD, or suggested natural immunity was sufficient for survivors, and shifted to "well, at least it helps stop serious illness" only after even Fauci came off the lie.

The Democrat leaders of 2017-2021 - and an uncomfortable percent of Clinton/Biden voters - were simply without any moral compass. “By any means necessary.” Power junkies.

Proving the point, you decry blanket calling out of "racism" but drop "socialist" like candy. Look for the log in your eye please.

 

[T.M.P.]

We can talk about all the people who got squashed and banned for having opinions about COVID and masks that (shock face) turned out to be completely factual months and years after the fact. Like masking being next to useless, particularly the cloth masks that were ubiquitous in 2020 and 2021. This is something that I guarantee a bunch of posters on this board still believe to be misinformation because the throttling of opinions by tech companies at the behest of the government is really effective at setting a false narrative that doesn't die.

Stop the Steal! Woke! Caravans! Borders! Build the Wall! Hillary's Emails! CRT! Hunter Biden's Laptop! Marxists! Socialists! Grooming! Lock Her Up! Biden Crime Family! Russia Hoax! Antifa! Fake news! The Media! LGBTQ! Government Handouts! Fauci! Go Brandon! Witch Hunt! MAGA! Soros! Radical Left! Deep State!

That's my reply.

Since, you guys are so moved by propaganda hooks there's no need to add anything else.. Apply which ever fear or anger those slogans evoke and run with it.

 

[swman]

Nope. Not in my book.

What the mainstream Democrat in Congress now proposes is socialism. And the radical left is still communist - openly. And both support suppression of speech. And both threaten violence when they don't get their way - while decrying violence by their opponents. (Hypocrisy is the first tool in the bag.)

Even before the 2020 election, anybody who refused to voice support for Biden loud enough - including Libertarians and others - were called racists by the Propagandist Puppet Left.

That BS really got going when Trump said there were "good people" on "both sides" of the debate about removing Confederate statues. The left portrayed it as him saying there were good people on both sides of the "white supremacy" debate - and it was off to the races. After that, if you did not rend your clothing and declare all Trump voters heretics loudly enough, i.e. if you voted Libertarian because both sides were crazy, you were branded as a white nationalist supporter, a Klan supporter, a racist, a fascist, a Nazi (by people who either never knew history or forgot it or ignored it like a vote whore).

These are people who jettisoned friends and family over Donald Trump. Who supported firing nurses over not getting a vaccine after demanding those nurses work without a vaccine. Who called you a murderer if you claimed the science showed a vaccine did not stop SPREAD, or suggested natural immunity was sufficient for survivors, and shifted to "well, at least it helps stop serious illness" only after even Fauci came off the lie.

The Democrat leaders of 2017-2021 - and an uncomfortable percent of Clinton/Biden voters - were simply without any moral compass. “By any means necessary.” Power junkies.

Might want to try to get your facts right when u defend his remarks about good people on both sides. That was a reference to the white nationalists who marched in Charlottesville and also chanted that Jews will not replace us. Oh yeah and a girl was killed at that rally by said white nationalist. Not when talking about confederate statues. And your dear leader has a moral compass? He’s the guy who stole classified documents, cheated on all of his wives, can’t quote a verse of scripture and makes fun of the disabled. U r a serious kool aid drinker. Can’t wait till your pal ends up being convicted under the espionage laws. Oh yeah and btw, when u become eligible for social security and Medicare make sure u decline since that would prove your socialist bonafides.
how about u just have the 30% or so of Americans who identify as dems put in labor camps as they r all satan worshipping pedophiles anyway. U seem truly filled with hatred of anything that doesn’t represent your warped view of the world. Must b fun living there.
And my wife and I both voted libertarian -Gary Johnson and lots of folks know it and we were never branded as anything. So try again to b truthful and not hyperbolic.

 

[UncleMark]

I'm trying to delete the baiting and responses but may not get them all. Please throttle it back. I don't want to lock this thread.

 

[swman]

Shame on these people. Project Veritas. OKeefe. The thieves.

Do they have no shred of humanity? This poor woman never asked to be in the limelight. And even if she had, how is this fair game? How does dragging her struggle with mental health or her possible trauma from childhood sexual abuse out into public scrutiny have anything to do with the struggles our nation is facing?

These people will put this woman through so much pain just to try to insinuate that her father molested her? So they can advance their agenda? Gross. For all of you who thought the Kavanaugh stuff was out of bounds and immoral, showed disrepect, etc. AND are hopping all over this, you are hypocrites of the very worst kind.

Ends do not justify means. This is sick.

Same folks who think it’s ok to say Sandy Hook was faked. Despicable people who will have to face their god on judgement day. Would love to hear their explanation.

 

[snarlcakes]

I'm trying to delete the baiting and responses but may not get them all. Please throttle it back. I don't want to lock this thread.

Make sure you don’t delete my Bitcoin post. There has to be one in there somewhere and it’s definitely the best post🍾

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

I'm trying to delete the baiting and responses but may not get them all. Please throttle it back. I don't want to lock this thread.

You should just lock this thread.

 

[Rockport Zebra]

Might want to try to get your facts right when u defend his remarks about good people on both sides. That was a reference to the white nationalists who marched in Charlottesville and also chanted that Jews will not replace us. Oh yeah and a girl was killed at that rally by said white nationalist. Not when talking about confederate statues. And your dear leader has a moral compass? He’s the guy who stole classified documents, cheated on all of his wives, can’t quote a verse of scripture and makes fun of the disabled. U r a serious kool aid drinker. Can’t wait till your pal ends up being convicted under the espionage laws. Oh yeah and btw, when u become eligible for social security and Medicare make sure u decline since that would prove your socialist bonafides.
how about u just have the 30% or so of Americans who identify as dems put in labor camps as they r all satan worshipping pedophiles anyway. U seem truly filled with hatred of anything that doesn’t represent your warped view of the world. Must b fun living there.
And my wife and I both voted libertarian -Gary Johnson and lots of folks know it and we were never branded as anything. So try again to b truthful and not hyperbolic.

I don't know why you can't accept he is not every Republicans leader. Many of us are and have always been troubled with who I call Dod Don.

 

[Rockport Zebra]

You should just lock this thread.

Why. Politics is hard ball. Always has been. Let every word stand.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Why. Politics is hard ball. Always has been. Let every word stand.

they hate it when you point out their hypocrisies

deleting it is their dee-fence

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Might want to try to get your facts right when u defend his remarks about good people on both sides. That was a reference to the white nationalists who marched in Charlottesville and also chanted that Jews will not replace us. Oh yeah and a girl was killed at that rally by said white nationalist. Not when talking about confederate statues. And your dear leader has a moral compass? He’s the guy who stole classified documents, cheated on all of his wives, can’t quote a verse of scripture and makes fun of the disabled. U r a serious kool aid drinker. Can’t wait till your pal ends up being convicted under the espionage laws. Oh yeah and btw, when u become eligible for social security and Medicare make sure u decline since that would prove your socialist bonafides.
how about u just have the 30% or so of Americans who identify as dems put in labor camps as they r all satan worshipping pedophiles anyway. U seem truly filled with hatred of anything that doesn’t represent your warped view of the world. Must b fun living there.
And my wife and I both voted libertarian -Gary Johnson and lots of folks know it and we were never branded as anything. So try again to b truthful and not hyperbolic.

He’s not my dear leader dumbass, but you are too stupid to tell pro-trump from non-pro-trump

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[swman]

I don't know why you can't accept he is not every Republicans leader. Many of us are and have always been troubled with who I call Dod Don.

My brother is a Republican judge in Indiana and trump is not his kind of leader. But he can not voice any kind of criticism or he will b black balled by the leadership.
As I have said multiple times here, my wife and I both were republicans until Trump came along. Although I began to sour on the party in the early 2000’s when W went into Iraq under made up pretenses. Still voted for some republicans but mostly on a local level. Did vote for Pence regrettably for governor but then he sold his soul to b vp. I registered as an independent when we built here in Florida. My wife is still a registered Republican but won’t vote for any national republicans here in Florida. I’ve always voted for candidates on both sides of the isle based on how they matched up with my principles and beliefs. Will never vote for someone like trump who lacks any kind of moral compass, empathy or shred of decency.