Predicting the future now are we? Should’ve tried that out before the dumb claims about Edey and Ivey.TJD will have a much higher usage under Woody, and will even develop his other hand and additional moves.
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Predicting the future now are we? Should’ve tried that out before the dumb claims about Edey and Ivey.TJD will have a much higher usage under Woody, and will even develop his other hand and additional moves.
So you are admitting that they are close? We will see if TJD develops or not. Curious to see. Always felt like going to play for Archie was a huge mistake.Trevion has better low post moves, not a better low post game. TJD currently has one move and no one can take it away. TJD will have a much higher usage under Woody, and will even develop his other hand and additional moves.
It would make them close scoring wise, however if they played the same mpg with the same usage rate, TJD would score more ppg. Trevion shooting only 50% from the line really leaves some points out there and is what sets TJD above Williams offensively.
Again, even if you called them a toss up offensively, TJD is CLEARLY the better defender. That makes TJD the better overall player.
It’s sorta like you guys predicting Ivey to be an All American and lottery pick next year.Predicting the future now are we? Should’ve tried that out before the dumb claims about Edey and Ivey.
They are close offensively. They are not close overall. TJD is faaaaaar better defensively.So you are admitting that they are close? We will see if TJD develops or not. Curious to see. Always felt like going to play for Archie was a huge mistake.
The same places saying Ivey is potentially a lottery pick are saying TJD is going to develop more moves and his other hand this year? Probably since this was on PeegsIt’s sorta like you guys predicting Ivey to be an All American and lottery pick next year.
TJD>Trevion…The same places saying Ivey is potentially a lottery pick are saying TJD is going to develop more moves and his other hand this year? Probably since this was on Peegs
I’ll temper my expectations until the baseline times weighs in
Your track record on these things is unparalleled. If you correct are on Ivey, maybe he stays for a 3rd year which I would be equally happy withTJD>Trevion…
Do I think TJD develops his off hand? Eh maybe, maybe not.
Do I think Ivey becomes and All American and a lottery pick this year? No I don’t.
My track record? Ivey WAS an inefficient chucker this year. Edey WAS a stiff this year. Morton WAS terrible this year as I predicted all last summer.Your track record on these things is unparalleled. If you correct are on Ivey, maybe he stays for a 3rd year which I would be equally happy with
WAS Winning!My track record? Ivey WAS an inefficient chucker this year. Edey WAS a stiff this year. Morton WAS terrible this year as I predicted all last summer.
Isn’t it funny how he’s doubling down on calling Edey a stiff when he went for 20 and 8 on TJD who Trojan has been riding HARD all day?WAS Winning!
You have quite the selective memory. TJD also held him to 0 points and 0 rebounds in the first matchup.Isn’t it funny how he’s doubling down on calling Edey a stiff when he went for 20 and 8 on TJD who Trojan has been riding HARD all day?
Yep when Trevion went off for 22/10/2. Crazy how much better Edey was playing towards the end of the year. I guess it’s carried over into the off-season because he was trying out for Canada’s 19U team and it looks like he will be on their Olympic team insteadYou have quite the selective memory. TJD also held him to 0 points and 0 rebounds in the first matchup.
So basically the B1G coaches voted and told you who was better yet you still believe you know more than them about basketball. Makes sense.Sure, I'll go into more detail since you can't look up the stats yourself.
Unlike @OhioBoiler51 , we will be looking at their entire 2020-21 seasons rather than looking at 4 games over the last two years.
Scoring: Slight Advantage TJD
- PPG: TJD: 19.1, Williams: 15.5
- MPG: TJD: 34, Williams: 25
This is where Purdue fans will try to argue that TJD only scores more, because he plays more. They will unintelligently leave out the fact that Williams has a 35% usage percentage compared to TJDs at 29%
- FG%: TJD: 51.7%, Williams: 52.5%
Obviously extremely close in this category, however Purdue had a better supporting cast leaving more room to operate and less double teams for Williams.
- FT%: TJD: 65.5%, Williams: 50%
TJD is not a good free throw shooter, however Williams is just flat out terrible in that department. It was a weird flex for @OhioBoiler51 to try to make fun of TJD's FT shooting given how terrible Williams is.
Defensively: HUGE Advantage TJD
- BPG: TJD: 1.4, Williams: .6
Once again, not close. Williams is not a good athlete and isn't a quick jumper which makes him a poor shot blocker for a big man. Clear win for TJD in this department.
- SPG: TJD: .7, Williams: .7
Miscellaneous: Toss up
- RPG:TJD: 9, Williams: 9.1
Slight edge to Williams in this department.
- Athleticism: TJD: Great Athlete, Williams: ….. ….. …. Not a great athlete
Post Season Awards: Advantage TJD
- All American:TJD: 3rd Team All American, Williams: Honorable Mention
- All Big Ten:
- TJD:
- Media: 1st Team
- Coaches: 2nd Team
- Williams:
- Media: 2nd Team
- Coaches: 1st Team
What criteria were the coaches voting based on? Please inform us.So basically the B1G coaches voted and told you who was better yet you still believe you know more than them about basketball. Makes sense.
Oh, maybe the coaches scouted them extensively, game planned against them, observed them up close. There was once a Bog 10 player who only layer a third of the conference games yet won the league MVP award. You would’ve wondered how that was possible.What criteria were the coaches voting based on? Please inform us.
Oh hey Ordy, the question was asked because it’s likely coaches valued team success when making their picks. No one would say Trevion Williams is a better player than TJD without factoring in team success.Oh, maybe the coaches scouted them extensively, game planned against them, observed them up close. There was once a Bog 10 player who only layer a third of the conference games yet won the league MVP award. You would’ve wondered how that was possible.
Only an ignorant fan would claim that coaches would look at it that way. And the only beat down here was the one you routinely suffer at the hands of the Purdue people you invite in to abuse you. Not surprised this is all over your head.Oh hey Ordy, the question was asked because it’s likely coaches valued team success when making their picks. No one would say Trevion Williams is a better player than TJD without factoring in team success.
Glad to see you back after that absolute beat down you took this weekend.
Why do Purdue fans brag about a guy who scored 11 ppg and shot 25% from 3? Edey just 8 ppg and 4 rebs. Not necessarily indications that these two will be future stars.Predicting the future now are we? Should’ve tried that out before the dumb claims about Edey and Ivey.
um.. we probably have some 16 year olds in the US who could make the Canadian olympic team.Yep when Trevion went off for 22/10/2. Crazy how much better Edey was playing towards the end of the year. I guess it’s carried over into the off-season because he was trying out for Canada’s 19U team and it looks like he will be on their Olympic team instead
It's not just about season stats, it's about the level of athlete combined with the finish to the season and the trajectory shown. Purdue fans aren't the only ones hyping IveyWhy do Purdue fans brag about a guy who scored 11 ppg and shot 25% from 3? Edey just 8 ppg and 4 rebs. Not necessarily indications that these two will be future stars.
He didn’t make it. Will be on the 19U team and an alternate for the Olympic team that’s full of NBA players. What 16 year old makes this roster?um.. we probably have some 16 year olds in the US who could make the Canadian olympic team.
Nickeil Alexander-Walker | Guard | 6’6” | Toronto, ON | New Orleans Pelicans |
R.J. Barrett | Guard | 6'6” | Mississauga, ON | New York Knicks |
Trae Bell-Haynes | Guard | 6'2” | Toronto, ON | Crailsheim Merlins (Germany) |
Anthony Bennett | Forward | 6’8” | Toronto, ON | Cangrejeros de Santurce (Puerto Rico) |
Luguentz Dort | Guard | 6’4” | Montreal, QC | Oklahoma City Thunder |
Zach Edey | Centre | 7’4” | Toronto, ON | Purdue Boilermakers (NCAA) |
Cory Joseph | Guard | 6'3" | Toronto, ON | Detroit Pistons |
Trey Lyles | Forward | 6’10” | Saskatoon, SK | San Antonio Spurs |
Mychal Mulder | Guard | 6’3” | Windsor, ON | Golden State Warriors |
Andrew Nicholson | Forward | 6’9” | Mississauga, ON | Fujian Sturgeons (China) |
Dwight Powell | Forward | 6'11" | Toronto, ON | Dallas Mavericks |
Andrew Wiggins | Forward | 6’7” | Vaughan, ON | Golden State Warriors |
Both made the all freshman teamWhy do Purdue fans brag about a guy who scored 11 ppg and shot 25% from 3? Edey just 8 ppg and 4 rebs. Not necessarily indications that these two will be future stars.
Why so defensive of the message board's less than objective view of PU and its players? What do you expect?Both made the all freshman team
both are headed to Latvia to represent their home countries as some of the top players 19 and under (Furst is as well).
Ivey is getting 1st round talk in mock drafts. Edey almost made an Olympic roster full of nba players when he’s only played the sport for 3 years.
the last 1/3 of the season
Ivey - 16 points, 4.1 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 1.3 blocks, 1.2 blocks, 32% from 3. Just a small improvement to his 3pt shot which improved as the season went (might be due to his foot injury) to go along with his athleticism is why it’s easy to get excited about him.
Edey - 11.2 points, 5.6 rebounds, 1.3 blocks, 62% from the floor, 77% from the FT line. That would be good for a starter but he averaged that coming off the bench for around 16 minutes per game.
He asked why so I told him. Why look farther into it than that?Why so defensive of the message board's less than objective view of PU and its players? What do you expect?
Less than objective is fine. I expect that and it makes for good discussion.Why so defensive of the message board's less than objective view of PU and its players? What do you expect?
Speaking of less than objective...who made fun ofHaas' sister?Less than objective is fine. I expect that and it makes for good discussion.
The entire crowd at assembly hall was chanting nasty things about his sister. I was at the game. Shameful act.Speaking of less than objective...who made fun ofHaas' sister?
Cool story, bro.The entire crowd at assembly hall was chanting nasty things about his sister. I was at the game. Shameful act.
Nope. Unlike you I WAS there and know what happened...exactly. Nice try Chief.The entire crowd at assembly hall was chanting nasty things about his sister. I was at the game. Shameful act.
It was zero...didn't happen.Cool story, bro.
The ENTIRE crowd.... lmao.
Yes, literally the entire crowd. I was there unlike the poster above making false claims that he was there.Cool story, bro.
The ENTIRE crowd.... lmao.
Did you see it from a seat where you can't see everything or everyone? Or hear it everyone?Nope. Unlike you I WAS there and know what happened...exactly. Nice try Chief.
Complete lie.The entire crowd at assembly hall was chanting nasty things about his sister. I was at the game. Shameful act.
I have very low seats. I know the story, how it evolved and what well-followed person spread untrue info on twatter.Did you see it from a seat where you can't see everything or everyone? Or hear it everyone?
It was about half of the students, and i don't approve of that chant, but yes...he begged for it.Now the entire crowd did chant “F*ck you Haarms”, but that was well deserved.