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Drake Bulldogs
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A few years, preferably at more than one program.
Crean is a great example of why this is so important. He did a great job of getting IU back to relevance and those were great years, but he couldn’t sustain it. It takes a “big person” to handle a blue-blood level program, beyond x’s & o’s.
Pitino, Pearl, Izzo, fill in the blank. Long-term success at the P4 level.
We can't hire any of them. You really think we're going to hire the guy who "didn't know" his players were getting paid and his recruits were getting strippers? The guy who had to admit he cheated on his wife by have sex in a booth at a public restaurant?
Or, you'd rather have the guy that knowingly kept rapists on the team?
Or Pearl, with whatever he did? I forget. You think Pearl is going tonwalk away from the #1 team in the country to start over at IU at his age?
No one we can get fits your criteria. Not even Brad Stevens.
@Jim Coyle and Dylan Sinn had an interesting discussion on McCollum. Both seem to think he's a horrible fit.
Archie was ten times the coach that McCollum is right now?
And your basis for that claim?
I haven't watched/listened, but I'm guessing the usual...
1. His teams play too slow
2. Only one season of D1 experience
Yawn.
Those poor players and fans. Can you imagine having to endure a 30-3 season (so far)? They must be miserable.
Sorry, I wanted to like, love and laugh about your post. My feelings exactly: give me 30-3 and conference titles in regular and tournament and I'll suffer through a season of 1 pt 40-39 wins.
I wouldn't say horrible, but he would not be my first choice.
If you want to play a schedule where going 30-3 is only good enough for a NET Ranking of 56, one spot behind Northwestern (coached by Chris Collins) it's Shangri-La.
He's anywhere from my 6th - 10th choice...but of guys that I would guess we have a good chance at, he'd be top 3...along with McCasland and Beard.
Has anyone floated the name Chris Mack? I'm not fully up to speed on why he got fired at Louisville? But he's been pretty successful, overall. Only thing missing, really, is a Final Four and/or Natty. But again, I don't remember why he got fired at Louisville.
That's my favorite anti-McCollum spin right there. BM can't control the MVC competition, but he does dominate the schedule in front of him ... repeatedly.
What's next, "If Drake played in the B1G..." Well no shit they'd probably finish middle-to-low; BM doesn't have access to B1G-quality players.
I'd take McCollum over your boy Dusty all day, every day. If there's a tourney god, we'll see UM vs. Drake.
But NET ranking is largely based on who you play, right? Can only play who is on your schedule. They only have 2 Q1 games (which they won). Their losses are all Q3, though they were not blowouts and they beat those same teams also.
I don't have "a boy" in this fight. There is zero emotional investment for me, so do not confuse opinions for feelings. And opinions change as the situation changes. I have simply put forth a few facts and am letting you guys run with it.
Personally, I find it hard to overlook McCollum's career coaching record at 82% wins (with titles)....over 15 years as a head coach. A "consistent" winner isn't that common. I've heard the risk comments.....but this guy isn't Archie Miller 2.0. He knows how to win consistently with his system. While Brad Brownell wouldn't be a "poor" hire....the guy can coach. But winning consistently is what IU hasn't had in a very long time. I would lean toward McCollum because he has a system that he has developed and has demonstrated the desired results with it, regularly. Add to that his youth.....I wouldn't think that we are "settling" on a coach...rather, banking on a guy who knows how to win.
Yeah, and Cig isn't all that, since our schedule this year was so weak.
Yet, in his first season moving up to the MVC....McCollum improves his 80% winning percentage to 90%. That isn't supposed to make sense. What that tells me is that its about the coach....not the conference. Bob Knight went from Army to IU, and so did Coach K and Duke.......just sayin'.
Goodman doesn't know jack. You should watch Coyle and Bozich poking fun at him this morning.
Anyone want to speculate on what IU's 2024-25 record would be had they played in the MVC this year? I looked at every regular season game and I would guess 32-1 on the high side. But who knows with this team.
No who said they do? Coyle and Bozich were in agreement that everyone is just guessing here.
It has been a really bad year overall in the MVC. Historically the conference has been pretty good.
He's also proven that he will bench players that don't do what he wants. That's been a problem for like, 3 coaches in a row.
Has McCollum taken any team to an NCAA Tourney?
If he has, what’s his record in that tourney?
Has a McCollum team ever been to an Elite 8?
Has McCollum ever been named conference Coach of the Year, for a major D1 conference?
How many D1 programs did he serve as an assistant for?
They both started their careers at the same time, Arch just had a better track due to many factors - he came from a well-known basketball family, and played for NC State, an ACC basketball school. He then was an assistant at Western Kentucky, NC State, AZ State, Ohio State, and Arizona before he got the Dayton job, where he went 139-63, .688, 4 trips to the tourney in 6 years and an Elite 8.
Ben may be a better coach, but he hasn’t proven that yet and doesn’t have Archie’s pedigree at this point. As I just showed you - it’s not even close
You left out Archie's record at IU.....67-58. I agree with you, Ben may be a better coach. Pedigree? IU hired Crean, Miller and Woodson. I'd take a proven winner over pedigree.......in spades.
Michelangelo was Michelangelo. He didn't need tutors, a pedigree, or art show ribbons to prove his worth.
