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I can’t follow this at all. You post about “conservatives” and “white people” as if the words are interchangeable. They are not.

You obviously have no clue about conservatism. For example, slavery, prejudice, and discrimination are as anti-conservative as anything. That doesn’t mean they are liberal. It means that not every issue fits on the conservative /liberal spectrum.

Conservatives by no means object to social change. If you read and understand Lincoln’s comments about slavery, you would understand the conservative case against slavery, prejudice etc. Yes, acting like clowns at the White House, parading naked in a pride parade, or chaining yourself to a bulldozer are not conservatism and doing that stuff in the name of social change is just stupid and it makes progressives stupid IMO. This whole “calling attention to” idea is just an excuse for progressives to act like idiots.

In sum, progressives seem to believe you must tear down a group, institution, or tradition to accomplish social change. Consedrvatis don’t.
The problem is when you look at the conservative news channels. You hear the rhetoric or the code words EX: MAGA They are not speaking of inclusion, they are not anti-discriminatory. Since 2016 threats against members of Congress have gone up every year. People have become more emboldened. EX; Proud Boys or the great replacement theory. You listen to Trump, he actually incites violence. Trump said with love in their heart, they were wonderful and patriotic people. he incited the violence on Jan 6th. Domestic Terrorism has become a bigger threat. In Minnesota trump, while visited on the campaign trail, said .In 2016. They are a large number of Somali refugees coming into your state, joining ISUS and spreading their views makes Democratic congresswoman Omar's life in danger. People listen, words matter especially coming from the ex-POTUS. Here he is in 2024 , trying to get reelected. Im hoping not all conservative racists and this includes some liberals also. We as black people can not be lazy, we must vote, We must remain vigilant about the things that matter to us.
 
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The problem is when you look at the conservative news channels. You hear the rhetoric or the code words EX: MAGA They are not speaking of inclusion, they are not anti-discriminatory.
MAGA was more an economic movement than anything and really the phrase is just boilerplate sloganeering that has been used by both parties in the past.
Since 2016 threats against members of Congress have gone up every year. People have become more emboldened.
Yeah, both sides of Congress. You can also add in threats to the Supreme Court justices over Dobbs. None of which have anything to do with race, it was political disagreements.
EX; Proud Boys or the great replacement theory. You listen to Trump, he actually incites violence. Trump said with love in their heart, they were wonderful and patriotic people. he incited the violence on Jan 6th.
How many videos do you need to see of Democrat politicians using violence tinged language regarding disputes? I got Maxine Waters, I got Obama...
Domestic Terrorism has become a bigger threat.
Define Domestic terrorism. Would that include the large number of crisis pregnancy centers and Catholic churches that were vandalized and/or victims of arson? Would that include flash mobs that show up and loot stores? Does that include people who drive by on a scooter and shoot 80 year old men in the back? Does it include 15 year olds who spray gunfire at each other in every major city in America fighting over "turf"? Did it include those who rioted across America for a cause they believed in, burning police stations and attacking federal courts? Or is it just your political enemies acting up on Jan. 6th that account for this huge rise? With all this domestic terrorism happening all over, perhaps you can provide some links to back that up.
In Minnesota trump, while visited on the campaign trail, said .In 2016. They are a large number of Somali refugees coming into your state, joining ISUS and spreading their views makes Democratic congresswoman Omar's life in danger.
Were Somalis being picked up for terrorism? Does claiming Omar is attached to a terrorist group make her life any more in danger than you suggesting that all of your political opponents are racists attached to domestic terrorists? Or does that only apply to your political opponents?
People listen, words matter especially coming from the ex-POTUS.
Yeah words do matter. See above.
Here he is in 2024 , trying to get reelected. Im hoping not all conservative racists and this includes some liberals also.
I would encourage you to go interact with some conservatives with an open mind. People are people, you will find assholes in both groups and you will find just generally good people as well. The world isn't as negative as you believe but nobody can tell you that, you have to go discover it on your own.
We as black people can not be lazy, we must vote, We must remain vigilant about the things that matter to us.
I imagine that line of thought sells pretty well to the white supremacist crowd too.
 
At the time of the BTP, slavery was legal in the Massachusetts colony.
Not the point.

None of the Loyal Nine, who later took on the name "Sons of Liberty", were either farmers or plantation owners. They were merchants and tradesmen, but not especially wealthy or prominent. They resided in the city of Boston, or very close by. They avoided publicity and operated in complete secrecy.

We know their names.

Which ones are you claiming to have been slaveowners? Provide evidence, please.


John Avery and Thomas Chase, Boston distillers;
Henry Bass, a Boston merchant;
Stephen Cleverly and John Smith, Boston braziers (people who worked with brass);
Thomas Crafts, a Boston painter;
Benjamin Edes, newspaperman and owner of the Boston Gazette;
George Trott, a Boston jeweler;
and Henry Welles, a shipowner

Feel free to also include their friends who joined the cause, such as Brewer Samual Adams or silversmith Paul Revere.

While they were not an anti-slavery organization, I am unaware that any of them were slaveowners.
 
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Not the point.

None of the Loyal Nine, who later took on the name "Sons of Liberty", were either farmers or plantation owners. They were merchants and tradesmen, but not especially wealthy or prominent. They resided in the city of Boston, or very close by. They avoided publicity and operated in complete secrecy.

We know their names.

Which ones are you claiming to have been slaveowners? Provide evidence, please.


John Avery and Thomas Chase, Boston distillers;
Henry Bass, a Boston merchant;
Stephen Cleverly and John Smith, Boston braziers (people who worked with brass);
Thomas Crafts, a Boston painter;
Benjamin Edes, newspaperman and owner of the Boston Gazette;
George Trott, a Boston jeweler;
and Henry Welles, a shipowner

Feel free to also include their friends who joined the cause, such as Brewer Samual Adams or silversmith Paul Revere.

While they were not an anti-slavery organization, I am unaware that any of them were slaveowners.
Over 100 people participated in the Boston Tea Party and we don't know everyone involved. There were even more members than that of the Sons of Liberty. Simple statistics would indicate that some of them were likely slaveholders because that wasn't the issue at hand (and therefore would not be a barrier to entry).
 
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MAGA was more an economic movement than anything and really the phrase is just boilerplate sloganeering that has been used by both parties in the past.

Yeah, both sides of Congress. You can also add in threats to the Supreme Court justices over Dobbs. None of which have anything to do with race, it was political disagreements.

How many videos do you need to see of Democrat politicians using violence tinged language regarding disputes? I got Maxine Waters, I got Obama...

Define Domestic terrorism. Would that include the large number of crisis pregnancy centers and Catholic churches that were vandalized and/or victims of arson? Would that include flash mobs that show up and loot stores? Does that include people who drive by on a scooter and shoot 80 year old men in the back? Does it include 15 year olds who spray gunfire at each other in every major city in America fighting over "turf"? Did it include those who rioted across America for a cause they believed in, burning police stations and attacking federal courts? Or is it just your political enemies acting up on Jan. 6th that account for this huge rise? With all this domestic terrorism happening all over, perhaps you can provide some links to back that up.

Were Somalis being picked up for terrorism? Does claiming Omar is attached to a terrorist group make her life any more in danger than you suggesting that all of your political opponents are racists attached to domestic terrorists? Or does that only apply to your political opponents?

Yeah words do matter. See above.

I would encourage you to go interact with some conservatives with an open mind. People are people, you will find assholes in both groups and you will find just generally good people as well. The world isn't as negative as you believe but nobody can tell you that, you have to go discover it on your own.

I imagine that line of thought sells pretty well to the white supremacist crowd too.
obama did not speak of violence, he spoke of inclusion. you are hurt when i call your conservatives out. The Dems did not attack the white house or try to kill us congressmen and women. The Dems did not try to kidnap as sitting US governor. I have lost all respect for the GOP. BECAUSE YOU GUYS did not try to stop it or condemn it. You guys will vote for trump again in 2024. I would encourage you to stop listening to lies and people who try to steal the govt. Burning police stations,who have members that belong to the kkk or are white supremacists, WHO kill unarmed citizens or used chokeholds because they feel threatened Thet only serve and protect white citizens.
 
Over 100 people participated in the Boston Tea Party and we don't know everyone involved. There were even more members than that of the Sons of Liberty. Simple statistics would indicate that some of them were likely slaveholders because that wasn't the issue at hand (and therefore would not be a barrier to entry).
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Nice backpedal!

from those evil slaveholders!

to "well, there were a lot of them, and we don't know them all, so just based on probability, some of them might have been slaveholders!"

No... you made the claim, so you give the evidence. Name a slaveholder who led or who even participated in the Boston Tea Party.
 
The problem is when you look at the conservative news channels. You hear the rhetoric or the code words EX: MAGA They are not speaking of inclusion, they are not anti-discriminatory. Since 2016 threats against members of Congress have gone up every year. People have become more emboldened. EX; Proud Boys or the great replacement theory. You listen to Trump, he actually incites violence. Trump said with love in their heart, they were wonderful and patriotic people. he incited the violence on Jan 6th. Domestic Terrorism has become a bigger threat. In Minnesota trump, while visited on the campaign trail, said .In 2016. They are a large number of Somali refugees coming into your state, joining ISUS and spreading their views makes Democratic congresswoman Omar's life in danger. People listen, words matter especially coming from the ex-POTUS. Here he is in 2024 , trying to get reelected. Im hoping not all conservative racists and this includes some liberals also. We as black people can not be lazy, we must vote, We must remain vigilant about the things that matter to us.
protect your POTUS; your mind is clear. Overthrow the govt.
 
obama did not speak of violence, he spoke of inclusion. you are hurt when i call your conservatives out.
"If they bring a knife, we bring a gun." Google it.
The Dems did not attack the white house or try to kill us congressmen and women.
Steve Scalise asks, "Do I mean nothing to you?"
The Dems did not try to kidnap as sitting US governor.
Nope, just shot a Congressman and threatened the life of Supreme Court justices.
I have lost all respect for the GOP. BECAUSE YOU GUYS did not try to stop it or condemn it.
Looking around and don't see you guys doing anything about the above. Fun how this works.
You guys will vote for trump again in 2024.
Like you all continue to vote for your poor leaders.
I would encourage you to stop listening to lies and people who try to steal the govt.
Likewise my friend.
Burning police stations,who have members that belong to the kkk or are white supremacists, WHO kill unarmed citizens or used chokeholds because they feel threatened Thet only serve and protect white citizens.
Speaking of encouraging someone to stop listening to lies....
 
We must remain vigilant about the things that matter to us.
I wish this were true.

Does education matter?
Does reading matter?
Does ability to do basic math matter?
Does paying for merchandise matter?
Does Freedom from Drugs matter?
Does random black youth shootings matter?

If all black kids who graduate from high school could read and do math at grade level, the doom loop of intergenerational Black under achievement would begin to crumble. But reading and math skills don’t matter to you, do they? You don’t need to lobby government for a damn thing to do that.

But nooooo….. what matters to you is taking a piece out of whitey.
 
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I wish this were true.

Does education matter?
Does reading matter?
Does ability to do basic math matter?
Does paying for merchandise matter?
Does Freedom from Drugs matter?
Does random black youth shootings matter?

If all black kids who graduate from high school could read and do math at grade level, the doom loop of intergenerational Black under achievement would begin to crumble. But reading and math skills don’t matter to you, do they? You don’t need to lobby government for a damn thing to do that.

But nooooo….. what matters to you is taking a piece out of whitey.
You do not understand the plight of black people, you do not want to accept the part whitey play in all of this. Those things above do matter. Why do you underfund our public schools? Why did you red-lined us? Why do you discriminate in education and jobs? Why is there such a widespread wage disparity as of 2020 70K for whites and 41K for blacks? Almost double? Why did you take our farmland Why do you try to prevent us from voting? Why did you strike down AA but left legacy alone? Why do police kill unarmed black people? Why do you still have sun-down towns in 2023.? Why did you try to overthrow the Govt? I could on and on. You want to ban books so people will forget the role our history plays. A lot of the problems above are caused by whitey drugs, crimes not all but some.
 
Not the point.

None of the Loyal Nine, who later took on the name "Sons of Liberty", were either farmers or plantation owners. They were merchants and tradesmen, but not especially wealthy or prominent. They resided in the city of Boston, or very close by. They avoided publicity and operated in complete secrecy.

We know their names.

Which ones are you claiming to have been slaveowners? Provide evidence, please.


John Avery and Thomas Chase, Boston distillers;
Henry Bass, a Boston merchant;
Stephen Cleverly and John Smith, Boston braziers (people who worked with brass);
Thomas Crafts, a Boston painter;
Benjamin Edes, newspaperman and owner of the Boston Gazette;
George Trott, a Boston jeweler;
and Henry Welles, a shipowner

Feel free to also include their friends who joined the cause, such as Brewer Samual Adams or silversmith Paul Revere.

While they were not an anti-slavery organization, I am unaware that any of them were slaveowners.
Do you know how the urban slave economy worked? Many slaves were in the trades. If John Henry needed masonry work done at his distillery, he probably rented a slave from his owner. When they say slaves Helped build the White House, this is what they are talking about.
 
Not in so many words. But he had to know that his messages about police, , criminal justice, excusing bad behavior and petty crimes, and other fundamental change would exacerbate discontent which would lead to violence.
he did not incite, because he is black no matter what he says white people would hate him. They did not want him POTUS in the first place.
 
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Nice backpedal!

from those evil slaveholders!

to "well, there were a lot of them, and we don't know them all, so just based on probability, some of them might have been slaveholders!"

No... you made the claim, so you give the evidence. Name a slaveholder who led or who even participated in the Boston Tea Party.
E0SWBFcXMAEr-bz.jpg



Nice backpedal!

from those evil slaveholders!

to "well, there were a lot of them, and we don't know them all, so just based on probability, some of them might have been slaveholders!"

No... you made the claim, so you give the evidence. Name a slaveholder who led or who even participated in the Boston Tea Party.
John Hancock, slave owner:


He wasn't throwing the tea off the boat but he was an instigator.
 
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"If they bring a knife, we bring a gun." Google it.

Steve Scalise asks, "Do I mean nothing to you?"

Nope, just shot a Congressman and threatened the life of Supreme Court justices.

Looking around and don't see you guys doing anything about the above. Fun how this works.

Like you all continue to vote for your poor leaders.

Likewise my friend.

Speaking of encouraging someone to stop listening to lies....
I think he’s Fing with you guys
 
"If they bring a knife, we bring a gun." Google it.

Steve Scalise asks, "Do I mean nothing to you?"

Nope, just shot a Congressman and threatened the life of Supreme Court justices.

Looking around and don't see you guys doing anything about the above. Fun how this works.

Like you all continue to vote for your poor leaders.

Likewise my friend.

Speaking of encouraging someone to stop listening to lies....
Sir continue to listen to all the lies. your mind is made up. Again you want to overthrow the Govt. You can not have your way so you send wonderful and patriotic people to the white house.
 
Sir continue to listen to all the lies. your mind is made up. Again you want to overthrow the Govt. You can not have your way so you send wonderful and patriotic people to the white house.
Man this is news to me. Not only do I want to overthrow the government (I don't) but I also sent people to the White House somehow. In the words of Palpatine, "Unlimited Power!!!!"

Just stop.
 
You do not understand the plight of black people, you do not want to accept the part whitey play in all of this. Those things above do matter. Why do you underfund our public schools? Why did you red-lined us? Why do you discriminate in education and jobs? Why is there such a widespread wage disparity as of 2020 70K for whites and 41K for blacks? Almost double? Why did you take our farmland Why do you try to prevent us from voting? Why did you strike down AA but left legacy alone? Why do police kill unarmed black people? Why do you still have sun-down towns in 2023.? Why did you try to overthrow the Govt? I could on and on. You want to ban books so people will forget the role our history plays. A lot of the problems above are caused by whitey drugs, crimes not all but some.
I’ll stipulate that our racial history is shameful But no slave owners and no slaves are alive today. History is not a current event. Your post explains why in many areas of the world, thousand-year-old grievances are the root causes of violence today. We can do better. Kamala is fond of saying we should move forward unburdened by what has happened before. Why do you insist on our history being a burden? We have the means, the will, and the economy to move forward together, except those who prosper by perpetuating the past won’t allow it. So, vote Democrat and nothing will be solved. I guarantee it.
 
Weren’t there a lot of whiteys that voted for Obama?
yes, he could not have won without them but look what's happening because he was elected. for every advancement, people try to take them away. 1POTUS 1 JUSTICE, now they took away AA. They are trying to take away minority scholarships.It is the sorry state of America.
 
Man this is news to me. Not only do I want to overthrow the government (I don't) but I also sent people to the White House somehow. In the words of Palpatine, "Unlimited Power!!!!"

Just stop.
Then why did they go?' Why support a man who sent them?
 
I’ll stipulate that our racial history is shameful But no slave owners and no slaves are alive today. History is not a current event. Your post explains why in many areas of the world, thousand-year-old grievances are the root causes of violence today. We can do better. Kamala is fond of saying we should move forward unburdened by what has happened before. Why do you insist on our history being a burden? We have the means, the will, and the economy to move forward together, except those who prosper by perpetuating the past won’t allow it. So, vote Democrat and nothing will be solved. I guarantee it.
Why banned books? Why strike down AA? Why is it still almost double wage disparity? Why do you still red-lined?
 
So, it’s the outfits for you?
^^^ still too dumb to understand English words combined into sentences ^^^

Let me spoon feed you:

The Colonials who protested British rule during the Boston tea party dressed up (in that case, like American Indians) to hide their identity so they would not be arrested by British soldiers.

The modern "progressives" who hit the streets to protest the alleged failures of society to honor and celebrate and join in their sex lives do not try and hide their identities to avoid prision - they dress to shock and annoy and then complain when someone acts shocked or annoyed.

PS - have you gone into a female dressing room and made any biological female (< that is now a phrase of hate speech) look at your penis yet? If not, you are a transphobic bigot. Get progressive or suffer! No job for you!
 
^^^ still too dumb to understand English words combined into sentences ^^^

Let me spoon feed you:

The Colonials who protested British rule during the Boston tea party dressed up (in that case, like American Indians) to hide their identity so they would not be arrested by British soldiers.

The modern "progressives" who hit the streets to protest the alleged failures of society to honor and celebrate and join in their sex lives do not try and hide their identities to avoid prision - they dress to shock and annoy and then complain when someone acts shocked or annoyed.

PS - have you gone into a female dressing room and made any biological female (< that is now a phrase of hate speech) look at your penis yet? If not, you are a transphobic bigot. Get progressive or suffer! No job for you!
Thanks for the totally obvious and patronizing history lesson, Pops. When you start posting in that condescending tone, as if you are imparting some valuable nuggets of wisdom, I know that I have really gotten under your skin.
Cheers.
 
obama did not speak of violence, he spoke of inclusion. you are hurt when i call your conservatives out. The Dems did not attack the white house or try to kill us congressmen and women. The Dems did not try to kidnap as sitting US governor. I have lost all respect for the GOP. BECAUSE YOU GUYS did not try to stop it or condemn it. You guys will vote for trump again in 2024. I would encourage you to stop listening to lies and people who try to steal the govt. Burning police stations,who have members that belong to the kkk or are white supremacists, WHO kill unarmed citizens or used chokeholds because they feel threatened Thet only serve and protect white citizens.
You keep saying the White House was attacked. Who attacked it?
 
You keep saying the White House was attacked. Who attacked it?
Democrats in the summer of 2020, causing Trump to have to be moved to a safe room.

All anybody can do is throw around accusations of who was worse because certain members of each party didn't exactly cover themselves in glory during that time period.
 
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Sir continue to listen to all the lies. your mind is made up. Again you want to overthrow the Govt. You can not have your way so you send wonderful and patriotic people to the white house.
Don't you want to overthrow the government that is holding down you and other black people?
 
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Democrats in the summer of 2020, causing Trump to have to be moved to a safe room.

All anybody can do is throw around accusations of who was worse because certain members of each party didn't exactly cover themselves in glory during that time period.
I know.... I wanted to zing him with it, but you beat me to it. lol
 
Why banned books?

"To Kill a Mockingbird" was one of the books we read in school that openly and clearly described the unfair treatment blacks received in the pre-Civil Rights South. It isn't Republicans banning it...




Meanwhile, libs consider school moms "domestic terrorists" for wanting this book out of elementary schools. I'm assuming you are in favor of books like "Gender Queer" being available to 2nd graders without parental permission?

 
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