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According to the Bureau of Labor the median income in 2020 for blacks is 41000 for whites 70000, almost twice as much. Yea, trump really help black people.
This is pretty ignorant.

First if all. I didn’t mention Trump.

Second of all, the problem of black underperformance will take generations to turn around.

Third, the Democrats, both black and white, are not proposing a damn thing to move the needle, except the lie of DEI. By the time the black male youngsters are old enough to enter the DEI elite world, they are likely addicted, in jail, or killed at an earlier age. It’s damn sure that a comparative few of them have decent educations.
 
This is pretty ignorant.

First if all. I didn’t mention Trump.

Second of all, the problem of black underperformance will take generations to turn around.

Third, the Democrats, both black and white, are not proposing a damn thing to move the needle, except the lie of DEI. By the time the black male youngsters are old enough to enter the DEI elite world, they are likely addicted, in jail, or killed at an earlier age. It’s damn sure that a comparative few of them have decent educations.
And that all, has been proven through focus group research to make them beholden to vote Dim.
paid for by the "Policy creation, via research group, of a chosen demographic that has already been identified to be easily manipulated, political action committee". Totally legal since DC has approved PAC's for their own self interests. !
 
This is pretty ignorant.

First if all. I didn’t mention Trump.

Second of all, the problem of black underperformance will take generations to turn around.

Third, the Democrats, both black and white, are not proposing a damn thing to move the needle, except the lie of DEI. By the time the black male youngsters are old enough to enter the DEI elite world, they are likely addicted, in jail, or killed at an earlier age. It’s damn sure that a comparative few of them have decent educations.
Sir what has the GOP DONE, Nothing but take away. Our underperformance was manufactured by whites,who want to keep us down to remain in power.
 
Fellow's, continuing to engage that trash, self loathing troll is more stupid that AA. You can't help stupid, even if it wasn't a total troll. Just stop. I beg you.
 
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This is not true, The GOP has taken away Sunday voting. Shorten the days for early voting, Limit the polling places to vote create longer lines, shall I go on.
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So you can only vote on Sunday? Ever heard of US mail, harvest balloting ? Shorten the days ? It used to be just one day to vote then it was made way too long became costly and inefficient so it was shortened again. Not a problem you still have ample time to pic your day. It doesn't really matter though. There could be limo service in your area and you would still find a way to complain.
 
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Cops are racists, Cops have the kkk and white supremacists as members, Why do you red-lined keeping us in poor sections of town, with limited tax services.,underfund public schools .take away our land hurting generational wealth, Our land was stolen under false pretenses,, and Trump gave subsidies to all farmers except the black ones. Discriminate, Kill our young people, and spread their body parts all over town. Move jobs to the suburbs leaving the cities in trouble. You want to blame black neighbors but clear yourself of all wrongdoing. ALL the advancement after slavery for ex 40 acres and a mule in Georgia was taken away by Racist POTUS JOHNSON. YOU BOMBED Tulsa because the blacks were doing good. EVERY advancement black folks have made you GOP FRiends try to take away. Obama did not say cops are racists but in the case of George Floyd, they were racists. They killed him. . Even his bill does not have a chance to outlaw choke holds and accountability of police. Don't tell me what white folks have done THE bad want to take us back to the fifties. White folks always mention we got a black POTUS but look how long it took and only 1 of how many. Same with the supreme court 2 out of how many and i do not include Clarence Thomas. By the way, count the former Klansman and racists on the court. Trump stacked the court with conservatives, They are already trying to take away advancements. I'm sorry sir this is a battle for democracy and our right to live in this country.
I am not guilty just because I am white. You should understand that of all people.
 
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I am not guilty just because I am white. You should understand that of all people.
Rockport, I'm not upset with you or even the majority of white people. IT is just a few who want to send us back into the dark ages.
 
So you can only vote on Sunday? Ever heard of US mail, harvest balloting ? Shorten the days ? It used to be just one day to vote then it was made way too long became costly and inefficient so it was shortened again. Not a problem you still have ample time to pic your day. It doesn't really matter though. There could be limo service in your area and you would still find a way to complain.
Who can afford that service, Ever heard of Souls to the Polls? No, you do not have ample time if you work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. I'M NOT complaining it's just something you do not know about. I'm just letting you know the black experience and even poor whites too.
 
Rockport, I'm not upset with you or even the majority of white people. IT is just a few who want to send us back into the dark ages.
I know that but be very careful. Many whites are not guilty. Using the word they means all whites. I see it in the distrust of the eyes of blacks when I say good morning.
 
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I know that but be very careful. Many whites are not guilty. I see it in the distrust of the eyes of blacks when I say good morning.
Try standing in an elevator, when an old white lady grabs her purse or being followed in a dept store because they think you are going to steal something., or have the police follow you if you have a nice car or feel threatened so they use undue force. We have a justice system that mostly put blacks in our prisons,even those that are innocent because of corrupt cops and prosecutors. Yes, there is mistrust on both sides. We can not afford to be lazy or very trusting. We do not have the power.
 
Name the people on here who defend “the confederate flag-carrying white supremacists who were defecating in the Capitol on Jan 6”
Every Trump supporter. If you go along with 45's plan for a blanket pardon, even for confederate flag-carrying white supremacists who were defecating in the Capitol on Jan 6, then you are defending them.
 
Holy moly libs have made your life miserable!!
No sir you have . The GOP wants to take away everything from AA, JOBS, scholarships, and even books. They want to wipe out history from all the dirty deeds they have done.
 
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No sir you have . The GOP wants to take away everything from AA, JOBS, scholarships, and even books. They want to wipe out history from all the dirty deeds they have done.
Yes, and it's working! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
 
Our underperformance was manufactured by whites,who want to keep us down to remain in power.
I agree with this. First it was the white Jim Crow Democrats who controlled Blacks by excluding them from life’s mainstream. Then they were replaced with the white patronizing Democrats who control Blacks by convincing them that their color is their destiny, that whites will always suppress them, and by stripping away intrinsic motivation to learn, achieve, and prosper because government will do those things so long as Blacks vote for Democrats.
 
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I know that but be very careful. Many whites are not guilty. Using the word they means all whites. I see it in the distrust of the eyes of blacks when I say good morning.

Why does he have to be very careful? I guess I don't see the same given back to him in this thread when using blanket stereotypes.

It's particularly annoying when hard care righties pull the 'thank the whites' card, as if they were part of the social change because of being 'white'.

I mean everyone knows that it's conservatives in general who consistently value humanity over profit exploitation. It was absolutely conservative whites that were the driving force that abolished slavery right? That meant shaking up the status quo, damaging the economy (that thrived by exploiting free, slave labor), and altering a sweet way of life that benefitted them monetarily and socially from owning people. Of course it was conservative thinkers that shouted that slavery is obviously a humanitarian moral decision that needs to be abolished.

No of course not. It's more like the hypocrisy of being a white dude that threw rocks at black children trying to enter segregated schools in the 60's now trying to say 'hey don't forget it was people like me who fought and brought an end to segregation. So you need to credit white people like me'.

So yeah, annoying.

Speaking of segregation as an example , it was eliminated via the supreme court in 1954 but didn't get implemented in full til around 1968 due to, surprise surprise....current red state holdouts like Mississippi.

As Mississippi governor Ross Barnett said in 1962.... "There is no case in history where the Caucasian race has survived social integration. We will not drink from the cup of genocide."

He sounds like a real flaming, bleeding heart, tree hugging liberal.
 
I agree with this. First it was the white Jim Crow Democrats who controlled Blacks by excluding them from life’s mainstream. Then they were replaced with the white patronizing Democrats who control Blacks by convincing them that their color is their destiny, that whites will always suppress them, and by stripping away intrinsic motivation to learn, achieve, and prosper because government will do those things so long as Blacks vote for Democrats.

Um you mean Jim Crow conservatives. There's nothing about Jim Crow that fits a liberal paradigm. That's conservative all the way pissed off about a changing status quo.

I know that won't keep you from using it, just like I know conservatives won't stop quoting the one line from MLK on MLK day....but trying to equate the old parties before the civil rights movement to match today's is....well, simply stupid and assumes the audience are morons that can't distinguish an ideology from the name of a group.
 
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Um you mean Jim Crow conservatives. There's nothing about Jim Crow that fits a liberal paradigm. That's conservative all the way pissed off about a changing status quo.

I know that won't keep you from using it, just like I know conservatives won't stop quoting the one line from MLK on MLK day....but trying to equate the old parties before the civil rights movement to match today's is....well, simply stupid and assumes the audience are morons that can't distinguish an ideology from the name of a group.
That old conservatives are racist baloney. Democrats have been saying that for generations.

There is noting inconsistent with being a liberal and a racist. You got one of those in the White House now. Fulbright was as liberal as they come—and a racist. Same for FDR. Even Obama. He monetizes his legacy, leaves Chicago with its diversity behind, and skedaddled to the whitest place in the USA.
 
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Why does he have to be very careful? I guess I don't see the same given back to him in this thread when using blanket stereotypes.

It's particularly annoying when hard care righties pull the 'thank the whites' card, as if they were part of the social change because of being 'white'.

I mean everyone knows that it's conservatives in general who consistently value humanity over profit exploitation. It was absolutely conservative whites that were the driving force that abolished slavery right? That meant shaking up the status quo, damaging the economy (that thrived by exploiting free, slave labor), and altering a sweet way of life that benefitted them monetarily and socially from owning people. Of course it was conservative thinkers that shouted that slavery is obviously a humanitarian moral decision that needs to be abolished.

No of course not. It's more like the hypocrisy of being a white dude that threw rocks at black children trying to enter segregated schools in the 60's now trying to say 'hey don't forget it was people like me who fought and brought an end to segregation. So you need to credit white people like me'.

So yeah, annoying.

Speaking of segregation as an example , it was eliminated via the supreme court in 1954 but didn't get implemented in full til around 1968 due to, surprise surprise....current red state holdouts like Mississippi.

As Mississippi governor Ross Barnett said in 1962.... "There is no case in history where the Caucasian race has survived social integration. We will not drink from the cup of genocide."

He sounds like a real flaming, bleeding heart, tree hugging liberal.
Those rock throwers? Democrats.

Those slave owners? Democrats

The abolitionists and the President who fought a civil war to free the slaves? Republicans.

That's got to be awfully annoying to you.
 
Those rock throwers? Democrats.

Those slave owners? Democrats

The abolitionists and the President who fought a civil war to free the slaves? Republicans.

That's got to be awfully annoying to you.

As I said to COH you are making an argument about a name vs an ideology. It only works if the arguer is an idiot or if the audience are idiots that the arguer is banking on.

Ross Barnett was a democrat. True

Ross Barnett was a stauch conservative in Mississippi. Also true.

How can that be???? Lol

His conservative ideology didn't change much while the name of his party did.

Everyone knows Lincoln was considered a staunch conservative with conservative, capitalistic ideas for the time. Lincoln was HUGE into small government involvement. He wanted as little government regulations as possible since he was such a conservative thinkers and really pushed for stronger state level government.

Didn't he? Lol
 
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That old conservatives are racist baloney. Democrats have been saying that for generations.

There is noting inconsistent with being a liberal and a racist. You got one of those in the White House now. Fulbright was as liberal as they come—and a racist. Same for FDR. Even Obama. He monetizes his legacy, leaves Chicago with its diversity behind, and skedaddled to the whitest place in the USA.

I'm not arguing that old conservatives are racist. I'm saying conservative ideology is pretty consistent over time and when you look at historical events through that perspective....it highlights just how silly it is to think that conservative thinkers were vital to progressive social change.

Social justice/social fairness has never been a big concern for the bootstrap believers.

It doesn't fit. It fits more that conservative thinkers were the greatest resistance to our social changes based on it's ideology.

So trying to take credit for that social change (like saying 'it was white people to abolished slavery) is being dishonest.

Yes it was a movement pushed over the finish line by white people....but the biggest resistance was white people.

The who, what and whys of that resistance need to be understood and acknowledged, not whitewashed in a celebration.

That's the 'hey I'm not raping your sister anymore so I should get credit for that' argument.
 
I'm not arguing that old conservatives are racist. I'm saying conservative ideology is pretty consistent over time and when you look at historical events through that perspective....it highlights just how silly it is to think that conservative thinkers were vital to progressive social change.

Social justice/social fairness has never been a big concern for the bootstrap believers.

It doesn't fit. It fits more that conservative thinkers were the greatest resistance to our social changes based on it's ideology.

So trying to take credit for that social change (like saying 'it was white people to abolished slavery) is being dishonest.

Yes it was a movement pushed over the finish line by white people....but the biggest resistance was white people.

The who, what and whys of that resistance need to be understood and acknowledged, not whitewashed in a celebration.

That's the 'hey I'm not raping your sister anymore so I should get credit for that' argument.
Your last sentence is comparable to Biden’s take on inflation.
 
Those rock throwers? Democrats.

Those slave owners? Democrats

The abolitionists and the President who fought a civil war to free the slaves? Republicans.

That's got to be awfully annoying to you.
It isn't. They just make up a narrative where they become the good guys. So in this case the parties flipped. The New Deal had nothing to do with blacks flipping to Democrats. FDR only got 70% (give or take) of their vote. They were totally Republicans before Nixon the racist switched to his southern strategy. And the Jimmy Carter apparently became a racist with his own Southern strategy in 1976:

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Then in 1980 the whole country went racist with the south:

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Then even worse in 1984:

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The reality is that most of the world doesn't revolve around race. There is a whole other set of factors for why the switch up happened. Could race be involved with some of it? Yeah, but it didn't stop those party switching racists from voting almost lock step together for Carter over a decade after the Civil Rights act.
 
I'm not arguing that old conservatives are racist. I'm saying conservative ideology is pretty consistent over time and when you look at historical events through that perspective....it highlights just how silly it is to think that conservative thinkers were vital to progressive social change.

Social justice/social fairness has never been a big concern for the bootstrap believers.

It doesn't fit. It fits more that conservative thinkers were the greatest resistance to our social changes based on it's ideology.

So trying to take credit for that social change (like saying 'it was white people to abolished slavery) is being dishonest.

Yes it was a movement pushed over the finish line by white people....but the biggest resistance was white people.

The who, what and whys of that resistance need to be understood and acknowledged, not whitewashed in a celebration.

That's the 'hey I'm not raping your sister anymore so I should get credit for that' argument.
I can’t follow this at all. You post about “conservatives” and “white people” as if the words are interchangeable. They are not.

You obviously have no clue about conservatism. For example, slavery, prejudice, and discrimination are as anti-conservative as anything. That doesn’t mean they are liberal. It means that not every issue fits on the conservative /liberal spectrum.

Conservatives by no means object to social change. If you read and understand Lincoln’s comments about slavery, you would understand the conservative case against slavery, prejudice etc. Yes, acting like clowns at the White House, parading naked in a pride parade, or chaining yourself to a bulldozer are not conservatism and doing that stuff in the name of social change is just stupid and it makes progressives stupid IMO. This whole “calling attention to” idea is just an excuse for progressives to act like idiots.

In sum, progressives seem to believe you must tear down a group, institution, or tradition to accomplish social change. Consedrvatis don’t.
 
In sum, progressives seem to believe you must tear down a group, institution, or tradition to accomplish social change. Consedrvatis don’t.

Thanks for the props!

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Those stupid progressives who dressed up like Native Americans and protested by throwing tea into Boston Harbor
 
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It isn't. They just make up a narrative where they become the good guys. So in this case the parties flipped. The New Deal had nothing to do with blacks flipping to Democrats. FDR only got 70% (give or take) of their vote. They were totally Republicans before Nixon the racist switched to his southern strategy. And the Jimmy Carter apparently became a racist with his own Southern strategy in 1976:

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Then in 1980 the whole country went racist with the south:

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Then even worse in 1984:

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The reality is that most of the world doesn't revolve around race. There is a whole other set of factors for why the switch up happened. Could race be involved with some of it? Yeah, but it didn't stop those party switching racists from voting almost lock step together for Carter over a decade after the Civil Rights act.
Go to about the 2 minute mark to see how racist those old Republicans were.



I sure wish she'd run for President.
 
As I said to COH you are making an argument about a name vs an ideology. It only works if the arguer is an idiot or if the audience are idiots that the arguer is banking on.

Ross Barnett was a democrat. True

Ross Barnett was a stauch conservative in Mississippi. Also true.

How can that be???? Lol

His conservative ideology didn't change much while the name of his party did.

Everyone knows Lincoln was considered a staunch conservative with conservative, capitalistic ideas for the time. Lincoln was HUGE into small government involvement. He wanted as little government regulations as possible since he was such a conservative thinkers and really pushed for stronger state level government.

Didn't he? Lol
You really shouldn't drunk-post.
 
Thanks for the props!

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Those stupid progressives who dressed up like Native Americans and protested by throwing tea into Boston Harbor
Are they the same progressives who owned slaves? Or was it the conservative slave owners who threw off the crown while the progressives sided with the antislavery crown?

(Trying to apply modern political labels to those guys is pointless.)
 
Are they the same progressives who owned slaves?
Are you asking whether the residents of Massachusetts, a staunchly anti-slavery state even back then, the people who dressed up as Native Americans and protested by throwing tea into Boston Harbor, were slave owners? No they were not. Their supportive Virginians? Sure, many of them were.
 
Are you asking whether the residents of Massachusetts, a staunchly anti-slavery state even back then, the people who dressed up as Native Americans and protested by throwing tea into Boston Harbor, were slave owners? No they were not. Their supportive Virginians? Sure, many of them were.
There were slaves in Massachusetts at the time of the revolution. It was the first state to hold slaves (1630) and the first to drop protection of them as property in it's state constitution (1783) but a little over 2% of its population were slaves at the time the Boston Tea Party occurred and the areas where it was most prevalent was on the coast and in industrial cities....like Boston.
 
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