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How about speaking the truth about slavery unabridged and unfilter.
(edited to add smart aleck stuff, fix errors and add what I left out because the software blinks and takes me where I don’t want to go)

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Nothing tells the truth of slavery more than this:

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I don’t know where you went to high school, but I first saw this in my high school history class. So whoever hid it from your school should not have been hired. (Maybe your school just let coaches teach history? I had an advantage - I lived about 10 miles from where Lincoln grew up in Indiana. We paid attention. And yes, it’s been a Republican county since forever. Imagine evil GOPers teaching about slavery. Who knew?)

But also, whoever tries to convince people that the “truth of slavery” was NOT taught is clearly at least partially wrong - maybe even intentionally lying.

Plus, just because local educators may not agree with 1619’s theory that our Constitution must be replaced because the original Colonies included slavery does not equal “ignoring slavery”.

Be careful about people who exaggerate. When people exaggerate, it is because the real facts and real truth does not help their cause. Always makes me suspicious.

And finally, there are NOT 2 sides to an issue - it ain’t that easy. Try looking at one from 360 degrees. Even in the African-American community, the 1619 ideas are not universal.


I grew up with Dr. King. My parents started teaching on the heels of Brown v. Board of Education, when integrated schools became law. But THIS guy has a different view that I ignore at my peril:

 
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Nothing tells the truth of slavery more than this:

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I don’t where you went to high school, but I first saw this in my high school history class. So whoever hid it from your school should not have been hired. (Maybe your school just let coaches teach history? I had an advantage - I lived about 10 miles from where Lincoln grew up in Indiana. We paid attention. And yes, it’s been a Republican county since forever. Imagine evil GOPers teaching about slavery. Who knew?)

But also, whoever tries to convince people that the “truth of slavery” was NOT taught is clearly at least partially wrong - maybe even intentionally lying.

Plus, just because local educators may not agree with 1619’s theory that our Constitution must be replaced because the original Colonies included slavery does not equal “ignoring slavery”.

Be careful about people who exaggerate. When people exaggerate, it is because the real facts and real truth does not help their cause. Always makes me suspicious.

And finally, there are NOT 2 sides to an issue - it ain’t that easy. Try looking at one from 360 degrees. Even in the African-American community, the 1619 ideas are not universal.


I grew up with Dr. King. My parents started teaching on the heels of Brown v. Board of Education, when integrated schools became law. But THIS guy has a different view that I ignore at my peril:

That is a powerful picture.

One of the many reasons I despise the current "anti-racist" focus on group identity is that I think it creates barriers to empathy (even if the opposite is intended).

That picture is of a human being. In a different age, a different time, a different society, one can imagine that it could be YOU. That crisscrossing mountain range of scars could be on YOUR back, leaving the physical evidence of the mental agony of many, many beatings. Beatings that caused pain, emotional and physical, and couldn't help but instill an outlook of helplessness.

That it was done to only a certain kind of people in the past is a fact, but in studying it now, it'd be nice if we all tried to put ourselves in the shoes of those slaves. And then later, of their tormenters (with all the present-day evil that entails) who were also human beings. What would it take to make you do that to another human being?

BOTH represent a part of humanity, whether we like it or not. That doesn't mean we, in the present, are responsible--morally or financially--for those people and what they did, but I think it's important to grapple with what is in our power as humans to do and to become.

Those are devastatingly hard things to do, and so most people don't. I'm not sure at what age we should be asking kids to do this.
 
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That is a powerful picture.

One of the many reasons I despise the current "anti-racist" focus on group identity is that I think it creates barriers to empathy (even if the opposite is intended).

That picture is of a human being. In a different age, a different time, a different society, one can imagine that it could be YOU. That crisscrossing mountain range of scars could be on YOUR back, leaving the physical evidence of the mental agony of many, many beatings. Beatings that caused pain, emotional and physical, and couldn't help but instill an outlook of helplessness.

That it was done to only a certain kind of people in the past is a fact, but in studying it now, it'd be nice if we all tried to put ourselves in the shoes of those slaves. And then later, of their tormenters (with all the present-day evil that entails) who were also human beings. What would it take to make you do that to another human being?

BOTH represent a part of humanity, whether we like it or not. That doesn't mean we, in the present, are responsible--morally or financially--for those people and what they did, but I think it's important to grapple with what is in our power as humans to do and to become.

Those are devastating hard things to do, and so most people don't. I'm not sure at what age we should be asking kids to do this.
Do you know they still hang and dismember black people? Just don't think that its 2023 those stripes you saw on his back are gone, Today its a different kind of stripes.
 
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I didn't know about this incident. It sounds like something out of a real-life horror movie:




That's horrendous and I can empathize with him and feel terror and sickness over it. One reason I can do that, is because I focus on him as a human not as a member of an opposing group. I hope you can do the same for people who grew up in different circumstances and might have been raised in a different culture than you.
 
I didn't know about this incident. It sounds like something out of a real-life horror movie:




That's horrendous and I can empathize with him and feel terror and sickness over it. One reason I can do that, is because I focus on him as a human not as a member of an opposing group. I hope you can do the same for people who grew up in different circumstances and might have been raised in a different culture than you.
Do you have the talk with your children and grandchildren? I do. My grandson lives in Jackson Miss, There is not a day that goes by that I do not tell him to be careful. Brad, are you black? You do not know the terror. not only from trump zealots, white supremacists, and corrupt police.
 
Do you have the talk with your children and grandchildren? I do. My grandson lives in Jackson Miss, There is not a day that goes by that I do not tell him to be careful. Brad, are you black? You do not know the terror. not only from trump zealots, white supremacists, and corrupt police.
No, I am not black and I do not know that fear.

But I do know fear, Willdog. If you ever want to meet up for a beer, I’d be willing to discuss it and I think we could understand each other much more than Ibram Kendi, et al. think we could. I’ve experienced it with men of all races and backgrounds, so I know it’s possible.

That’s a serious invitation, by the way.
 
So for those of us who didn't live in a fraternity, let alone the right one, isn't Diversity, Equity, Inclusion for us too? Those of us not from the power elite, isn't it for us too? Those of us who don't belong to the right club, go to the right church?

In other words, why do so many who rail against the swamp oppose a program decidedly anti-swamp?

There are swamps in corporate America, city hall, the statehouse. Places where who you know is more important than what you know. Why do we not see that as the real problem?

So read that blurb, tell me where what she did is bad.
When you self-marginalize you think anything not aimed generally at you is against you. They feel someone else's rise is their downfall. So they blame it on things other than pure performance.

Guess who will refute it?
 
Let’s do this.
Awesome. Can you come to Chicago? I’ll buy ( as long as you wear that little black number).

Seriously, if anyone on this board ever wanted to grab a drink when in Chicago, I’m buying. I need any excuse to get out of the house . . .
 
Awesome. Can you come to Chicago? I’ll buy ( as long as you wear that little black number).

Seriously, if anyone on this board ever wanted to grab a drink when in Chicago, I’m buying. I need any excuse to get out of the house . . .
Where are you in Chicago? I’m there every six weeks or so. We could get a group!
 
Everyone's favorite topic. State hired someone to start a program, they are leaving their post and gave an interview to NPR. Here is a snippet I really would love people's comments on.

One of the most important things we've done since I've been here is bring greater transparency to senior assignments that, until August of last year, you had to be known by someone to be a deputy assistant secretary in this building. And my office led the change for that. Now, while the change is going to benefit women and minorities because we're the least likely ones to have got that tap on the shoulder...​
FADEL: Yeah.​
ABERCROMBIE-WINSTANLEY: ...I'm delighted to tell you that the first person to benefit was a European American male. And he came up to me, and he was kind of apologetic 'cause he said, I don't know if I'm your demographic, but I want to say thank you. And he said, I saw the advertisement. These positions had never been advertised before - really. You had to know someone. And I said, yeah, you. You are my demographic. Inclusion is for everyone. And what everyone needs to understand is that we are not trying to put a new group at the top of the pyramid. We are trying to level the playing field.​



So for those of us who didn't live in a fraternity, let alone the right one, isn't Diversity, Equity, Inclusion for us too? Those of us not from the power elite, isn't it for us too? Those of us who don't belong to the right club, go to the right church?

In other words, why do so many who rail against the swamp oppose a program decidedly anti-swamp?

There are swamps in corporate America, city hall, the statehouse. Places where who you know is more important than what you know. Why do we not see that as the real problem?

So read that blurb, tell me where what she did is bad.
It’s always been about who you know and what is known about you when it comes to promotion time, climbing the latter of success. It’s why young upstarts join the country club, join the biggest church, volunteer at big community events…networking to get to know the right people in order to increase your chances of promotion later. The business world is overpopulated in phony friendships, but If you don’t play the game, you’ll never win the game. Now, it seems with the overemphasis on DEI, it’s based more on physical appearance, the color of one’s skin (Isn’t it ironic!), gender or sexual persuasion. Let’s not consider any more qualified White Guys because we need more Blacks, Trans, and Browns…a few more Clowns in fulfillment so the Moral High Ground box gets checked before our annual shareholder’s meeting.
 
what's the deal with united and dei? something about their pilots. i only saw a clip on fox so wasn't sure of the veracity of it. i'm not sure i want dei to be an important consideration in picking my pilots. my HR guy okay. my marketing specialist. that's fine. my surgeon, my pilot, ehh not so much
I’ve always liked the old line that I want my doctor to drive a Mercedes.
 
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what's the deal with united and dei? something about their pilots. i only saw a clip on fox so wasn't sure of the veracity of it. i'm not sure i want dei to be an important consideration in picking my pilots. my HR guy okay. my marketing specialist. that's fine. my surgeon, my pilot, ehh not so much
United new customer message;
"Here at United, we hire our pilots using a special DEI - AI software. How do you feel about possibly needing to parachute"?
 
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