You bore me. You don't think the game was lost in the first ten minutes? I do.you're dumb.
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You bore me. You don't think the game was lost in the first ten minutes? I do.you're dumb.
You bore me. You don't think the game was lost in the first ten minutes? I do.
Why don't you kiss my balls you basketball know nothing c*unt.Who the phack are you? You want to make a point, or a comment? Pertaining to the game? Otherwise - shut the phuck up.
Ass hat.
Look, for the record, I had (and have) no confidence in the coach or his scheme, either. I gave IU a 1 in 10 chance to win the game. But, sometimes, the other team dictates what happens; that was the case tonight. And the first 10 minutes was the difference.I thought it was over when Paige made his second three pointer. But that doesn't say a lot about my confidence in the coach and his scheme.
Please, educate me with your basketball knowledge, you idiot savant.Why don't you kiss my balls you basketball know nothing *****.
I thought it was over when Paige made his second three pointer. But that doesn't say a lot about my confidence in the coach and his scheme.
You can't run with them. Its' just dumb. We did a good job rebounding with them in the first half and keeping them from attacking the rim. It was basically 50% on both ends. We just needed to hit shots. Gotta give them credit, UNC did a good job guarding the transition three. Which is our main offense. They didn't let us have many second chance baskets either, which is another huge chunk out of our offense. Hitting threes was our only chance to win this game. Other than slowing it down. Which we're not capable of doing.UNC didn't play good defense and IU failed to take example of it. We have no offensive philosophy to speak of, except for Yogi initiating everything and breaking guys down off the dribble. It doesn't work so well when he doesn't have the ball in his hands and is sitting in the corner while Troy or Hartman take it up top.
And yes, UNC hit shots, but they were largely uncontested. Most guys that shoot 35% can hit 60% in a gym when unguarded. The percentage drops when you're not guarded. IU didn't defend and they got hot early. If they missed a few early, they would've just started going to the paint earlier. It might've shaved a few points off the final score, but what does that matter?
Look, for the record, I had (and have) no confidence in the coach or his scheme, either. I gave IU a 1 in 10 chance to win the game. But, sometimes, the other team dictates what happens; that was the case tonight. And the first 10 minutes was the difference.
I told my son that IU needed to hit 40% of better from three to have a chance. Carolina hitting the percentage they did wasn't in the equation.You can't run with them. Its' just dumb. We did a good job rebounding with them in the first half and keeping them from attacking the rim. It was basically 50% on both ends. We just needed to hit shots. Gotta give them credit, UNC did a good job guarding the transition three. Which is our main offense. They didn't let us have many second chance baskets either, which is another huge chunk out of our offense. Hitting threes was our only chance to win this game. Other than slowing it down. Which we're not capable of doing.
Coworker told me RMK would have won this game. Troy would have started on the bench, if on the team, and Paige would have never hit those shots ... At least not all of them ... With OG on him.I thought it was over when Paige made his second three pointer. But that doesn't say a lot about my confidence in the coach and his scheme.
I told my son that IU needed to hit 40% of better from three to have a chance. Carolina hitting the percentage they did wasn't in the equation.
IU sucks. Crean sucks. Ceded. I'm just saying that sometimes how a game plays out isn't directly related to game plan or coaching or skill.
What team in the country could have beaten Carolina tonight?
You can't run with them. Its' just dumb. We did a good job rebounding with them in the first half and keeping them from attacking the rim. It was basically 50% on both ends. We just needed to hit shots. Gotta give them credit, UNC did a good job guarding the transition three. Which is our main offense. They didn't let us have many second chance baskets either, which is another huge chunk out of our offense. Hitting threes was our only chance to win this game. Other than slowing it down. Which we're not capable of doing.
I can't argue with any of that. I'm not blind; I just don't think tonight's outcome was because the team wasn't prepared or ready to play.My frustration is not because we lost or because I thought we were going to win. UNC is the better team. I thought we'd have to play lights out and UNC would have to struggle from the outside for us to have a chance. My frustration is because nothing really seems to have changed with the way Crean sees the game and coaches the players. It's frustrating.
We will not compete for a national title with Crean.
The big ten conference win was nice. But there's no doubt that the conference was down. And we played a weak schedule with the unbalanced scheduling.
Wtf are we going to do next year without a point guard? Are we rebuilding next year? Rebuilding what?
I'm on your side on this. If you read my earlier post, you know this.I told my son that IU needed to hit 40% of better from three to have a chance. Carolina hitting the percentage they did wasn't in the equation.
IU sucks. Crean sucks. Ceded. I'm just saying that sometimes how a game plays out isn't directly related to game plan or coaching or skill.
What team in the country could have beaten Carolina tonight?
It's not easy going through forty years of tape in one week. You have to watch them all to make sure you really know what kind of offense UNC runs.Well, yeah...you shouldn't run with them, but as you said, we are incapable of slowing the game down. So that leaves us with the only option of running and hitting transition 3's, which (as you point out) they did a decent job of shutting down.
They didn't get transition 3's so much as they got "Carolina transition 3's." Transition offense is part of their offense...hell, it is their offense (as you know). It's not a surprise to anyone--unless you've been braindead for 40 years.
That's kind of what I'm trying to explain to Hoopscat. Yes, they were hitting shots...but they were pretty much open shots. And they were getting them off their basic up-and-down offense. I'm not sure Crean was surprised by it so much as he's incapable of teaching a defense to stop it.
I can't argue with any of that. I'm not blind; I just don't think tonight's outcome was because the team wasn't prepared or ready to play.
Man, I'm not sure about that. In the first half, the 3's that Paige hit weren't in transition, were they? IIRC, the first was a baseline right shot where he was actually fading to the baseline, and it was late in the shot clock. He wasn't squared up at all. I can't say for sure, but I don't think most of their 3's came in transition.Well, yeah...you shouldn't run with them, but as you said, we are incapable of slowing the game down. So that leaves us with the only option of running and hitting transition 3's, which (as you point out) they did a decent job of shutting down.
They didn't get transition 3's so much as they got "Carolina transition 3's." Transition offense is part of their offense...hell, it is their offense (as you know). It's not a surprise to anyone--unless you've been braindead for 40 years.
That's kind of what I'm trying to explain to Hoopscat. Yes, they were hitting shots...but they were pretty much open shots. And they were getting them off their basic up-and-down offense. I'm not sure Crean was surprised by it so much as he's incapable of teaching a defense to stop it.
What team in the country could have beaten Carolina tonight?
Well, yeah...you shouldn't run with them, but as you said, we are incapable of slowing the game down. So that leaves us with the only option of running and hitting transition 3's, which (as you point out) they did a decent job of shutting down.
They didn't get transition 3's so much as they got "Carolina transition 3's." Transition offense is part of their offense...hell, it is their offense (as you know). It's not a surprise to anyone--unless you've been braindead for 40 years.
That's kind of what I'm trying to explain to Hoopscat. Yes, they were hitting shots...but they were pretty much open shots. And they were getting them off their basic up-and-down offense. I'm not sure Crean was surprised by it so much as he's incapable of teaching a defense to stop it.
I don't think most of their 3's came in transition.
Gawd, you're relentless.Well...Virginia beat them earlier in the year and UNC went 9-19/48% from 3. ND beat them with UNC shooting 6-12/50% from 3. And ND sucks at D.
That's the thing. It's one thing to give them the lane (and defend the 3) or give them the 3 (and defend the lane). Sometimes you have to concede something to a better team. You can't concede everything, for christsakes. UNC was on fire from 3 and Williams is b!tching at half to get the ball inside. Why? Because he knows it is wide open too, and there are easier pick'ns in there. I mean for f***s sake.
IU shot 42% from 3, and as TMP pointed out UNC did a decent job on D. I think IU could've done better, but UNC could've named their score and gotten points from anywhere. Praying the other team misses open shots isn't a defensive strategy.
Did you have fun with your son?And that's the problem. Some of it is a talent gap no doubt. But Crean is incapable of narrowing that gap. What you saw is a Crean team prepared to play and ready to play the way Crean coaches them to play. That's why he's gotsta go.
When you say transition, that's not what I think of. I get what you're saying, but I'd like to know how many 3's were hit by Carolina early in the shot clock.Transition offense. It's a UNC staple. First big down the floor to the block. ball handler (preferably...almost always, the point) to the top of the key. Each perimeter fills a wing beyond the three point line, almost to the corner. Last big up the floor to the top of the key. If nothing comes from direct transition, its entered to the wing and entered to the post or reversed. Unless they pull it back out and re-set, they are almost always working off a variation of that offense.
I would have to go back and look, but I would bet the vast majority of those shots came from their basic offense that had been on film a dozen times throughout the year.
Did you have fun with your son?
You should have grounded him and put his ass to bed instead of letting him think that is IU basketball.
The answer is "yes, that's the player I hate."He wanted to finish Star Wars so he missed most of the first half. He sees Troy and says, "is that the player you hate?".
He's a kid that doesn't have a history of watching IU so he would be more excited about a win than sad about a loss.
Like I've said before, we've lost/are losing a generation plus of Indiana basketball fans. We haven't had consistent success since the early 90s.
Transition offense. It's a UNC staple. First big down the floor to the block. ball handler (preferably...almost always, the point) to the top of the key. Each perimeter fills a wing beyond the three point line, almost to the corner. Last big up the floor to the top of the key. If nothing comes from direct transition, its entered to the wing and entered to the post or reversed. Unless they pull it back out and re-set, they are almost always working off a variation of that offense.
I would have to go back and look, but I would bet the vast majority of those shots came from their basic offense that had been on film a dozen times throughout the year.
Gawd, you're relentless.
It wasn't the stats at the end of the game that mattered. The second half outcome was a fait accompli. What were the stats in the first 10, no, say 5 minutes of the game? By that point in time, Carolina knew that all they had to do was pound it inside, because their bigs are dominant. And the second half they got fouled every trip as a result.
I got Notre Dame Sunday as UNC clangs their way to a 25% 3pfg %.It's all good. I think we all agree. Well, except Hoops and probably Moops.
What's amazing was it was only a 71 (if I did the math right) possession game. We just gave up 1.38 pts per? A majority of those possessions came in the 2nd half. It may have been UNC settling, but I think giving them space to take them played into it. Roy adjusted.
We're stuck with him for two years minimum. *SIGH*.
fwiw - OG, if he develops a shot, will be special.
I got Notre Dame Sunday as UNC clangs their way to a 25% 3pfg %.
He wanted to finish Star Wars so he missed most of the first half. He sees Troy and says, "is that the player you hate?".
He's a kid that doesn't have a history of watching IU so he would be more excited about a win than sad about a loss.
Like I've said before, we've lost/are losing a generation plus of Indiana basketball fans. We haven't had consistent success since the early 90s.