Deranged Jack Smith drops all charges

[mcmurtry66]

Once again, the Biden case is not at all like the Trump case. Not deliberate, no obstruction and no conspiracy to obstruct in the Biden case.

Maybe they wouldn’t get a conviction but now we’ll never know.

He had them. In a garage. That’s deliberate. There was enough to prosecute. His infirmity got him off. But what I know well is the counties that populate that pool. What the people look like. You think the judge was for the defense half that jury will be dream teamers. And in their heads they think trump is a target, where are Hilary’s emails, why isn’t the big guy investigated, why did the prosecutor drop Biden’s docs case bc Biden was too old and mushy peas, this is all bullshit. I’m not convicting. No Fing way

Where a case is heard is a massive deal. See oj and a million others

 

[snarlcakes]

Nope. They’re legal scholars and litigators. Some have appeared before the USSC. I’m not listening to ambulance chasers, public defenders, legal clerks or even my old friends here. I know I’m not an expert so I seek experts.

Getting your information from shock jock radio hosts isn’t seeking experts. You seek confirmation bias. @CO. Hoosier is the legal expert and he educated you on why you’re wrong. Don’t take it personal, you’re one of many (myself included) to be educated and corrected by CO.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Counter point: Perhaps he’s an adult capable of mending mutually beneficial relationships and recognizing people for who they are.

That’s called maturity. Try it on.

There’s a thing called honor. You don’t surrender that for political expedience.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

He had them. In a garage. That’s deliberate. There was enough to prosecute. His infirmity got him off. But what I know well is the counties that populate that pool. What the people look like. You think the judge was for the defense half that jury will be dream teamers. And in their heads they think trump is a target, where are Hilary’s emails, why isn’t the big guy investigated, why did the prosecutor drop Biden’s docs case bc Biden was too old and mushy peas, this is all bullshit. I’m not convicting. No Fing way

Where a case is heard is a massive deal. See oj and a million others

I read the details of every case. They aren’t close to the same as the Trump case. Biden’s and Pence’s cases are very similar tonight HRC’s but not Trump’s.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I read the details of every case. They aren’t close to the same as the Trump case. Biden’s and Pence’s cases are very similar tonight HRC’s but not Trump’s.

You don’t understand how any of it works. At all. Getting a conviction there would be incredibly difficult

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Getting your information from shock jock radio hosts isn’t seeking experts. You seek confirmation bias. @CO. Hoosier is the legal expert and he educated you on why you’re wrong. Don’t take it personal, you’re one of many (myself included) to be educated and corrected by CO.

Why must you repeat the same false accusation? I don’t even listen to shock jocks. Who the hell are they these days? Listen to the POTUS channel and you won’t find any there.

I’ve known COH virtually for probably 25 years. We know each other by name. We’ve exchanged emails. I have learned many things from him over the years. This isn’t one of them.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

You don’t understand how any of it works. At all. Getting a conviction there would be incredibly difficult

It might be, but it is no foregone conclusion that he wouldn’t have been convicted. Juries get it right more times than not.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Nope. They’re legal scholars and litigators. Some have appeared before the USSC. I’m not listening to ambulance chasers, public defenders, legal clerks or even my old friends here. I know I’m not an expert so I seek experts.

What about a Harvard Law Professor?

 

[mcmurtry66]

Why must you repeat the same false accusation? I don’t even listen to shock jocks. Who the hell are they these days.

I’ve known COH virtually for probably 25 years. We know each other by name. We’ve exchanged emails. I have learned many things from him over the years. This isn’t one of them.

It might be, but it is no foregone conclusion that he wouldn’t have been convicted. Juries get it right more times than not.

You have know idea what you’re talking about with any of this shit. Rico sbox. Jury selection in the counties that court pools. None of it.

 

[mcmurtry66]

It might be, but it is no foregone conclusion that he wouldn’t have been convicted. Juries get it right more times than not.

I think the entire navy needs to be overhauled from what I’ve read. Dei has just destroyed it under wokeness. I pray this happens for the safety of our country. Our navy today is an embarrassment. Total disaster. And the recruits are all losers who had nothing else they could do. Sad

Thank god we have trump as cic

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

What about a Harvard Law Professor?

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Once again you prove nothing. They’re talking about the NY hush money case. That’s the one I’ve repeatedly said shouldn’t have been brought. That doesn’t mean he isn’t guilty, but it shouldn’t have been tried.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

You have know idea what you’re talking about with any of this shit. Rico sbox. Jury selection in the counties that court pools. None of it.

I haven’t participated but I know how it works. How did we get from how strong the case is to “the jury would never convict?”

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I think the entire navy needs to be overhauled from what I’ve read. Dei has just destroyed it under wokeness. I pray this happens for the safety of our country. Our navy today is an embarrassment. Total disaster. And the recruits are all losers who had nothing else they could do. Sad

Thank god we have trump as cic

That’s all bull shit. Why in the hell would you get into trashing the US Navy?

 

[UncleMark]

How did we get from how strong the case is to “the jury would never convict?”

Because the facts of the case don't matter to the Trump apologists.

 

[snarlcakes]

Why must you repeat the same false accusation? I don’t even listen to shock jocks. Who the hell are they these days? Listen to the POTUS channel and you won’t find any there.

I’ve known COH virtually for probably 25 years. We know each other by name. We’ve exchanged emails. I have learned many things from him over the years. This isn’t one of them.

Look, CO, is a mix of Knight, Rockne, and Cig all in one. He’s the best of the best. You’re getting your information from some county school B Team coaches. You’re out of your depth here.

 

[IUINSB]

I think the entire navy needs to be overhauled from what I’ve read. Dei has just destroyed it under wokeness. I pray this happens for the safety of our country. Our navy today is an embarrassment. Total disaster. And the recruits are all losers who had nothing else they could do. Sad

Thank god we have trump as cic

How is today's Navy different from the Navy when you were serving?

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Counter point: Perhaps he’s an adult capable of mending mutually beneficial relationships and recognizing people for who they are.

That’s called maturity. Try it on.

We really need an Emoji, of Popeye getting his azz spanked for post like this. #Popeyeazzspank !!

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Look, CO, is a mix of Knight, Rockne, and Cig all in one. He’s the best of the best. You’re getting your information from some county school B Team coaches. You’re out of your depth here.

Sure, dude.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

How is today's Navy different from the Navy when you were serving?

Homosexuals are allowed to serve openly. I opposed that but I’m apparently a conservative dinosaur. The officers and enlisted I know aren’t different though.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

We really need an Emoji, of Popeye getting his azz spanked for post like this. #Popeyeazzspank !!

That wouldn’t get much use.

 

[IUINSB]

Homosexuals are allowed to serve openly. I opposed that but I’m apparently a conservative dinosaur. The officers and enlisted I know aren’t different though.

Question was address to Murt.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Question was address to Murt.

Sorry, thought it was to me. 😉

 

[mcmurtry66]

That’s all bull shit. Why in the hell would you get into trashing the US Navy?

Oh that’s what I’ve read. It’s not that way in practice?

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Oh that’s what I’ve read. It’s not that way in practice?

You’re not making the point you think you are.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I haven’t participated but I know how it works. How did we get from how strong the case is to “the jury would never convict?”

I don’t think it’s a strong case. Trump walks 9 out of ten times. That indictment is a one way street. Here he will have a friendly judge, defense lawyers, and a jury that looks like the dream team. And you don’t think a jury brings bias? Carroll ain’t getting a 100 mil in st Charles co Missouri.

 

[mcmurtry66]

You’re not making the point you think you are.

I am. I’m arrogant but not as arrogant as you. And a whole lot smarter

 

[mcmurtry66]

Question was address to Murt.

I would have no idea. And if I read something to that end wouldn’t really know the reality. Just as aloha doesn’t know the foggiest about law but is too arrogant and stupid to understand that he doesn’t know how things work in practice

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I am. I’m arrogant but not as arrogant as you. And a whole lot smarter

Let’s not get into that again. 🙄

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I would have no idea. And if I read something to that end wouldn’t really know the reality. Just as aloha doesn’t know the foggiest about law but is too arrogant and stupid to understand that he doesn’t know how things work in practice

How do juries ever get it right?

 

[mcmurtry66]

How do juries ever get it right?

What is right? Acquittal is right to to some. One.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Because the facts of the case don't matter to the Trump apologists.

AT
ANY
COST !

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

What is right? Acquittal is right to to some. One.

Of course it is sometimes. It’s not right if the case proves a defendant guilty and the jury decides otherwise just because. The OJ verdict was not right. At least one juror said she thought he was guilty but voted not guilty because the cops “were racists.”

 

[mcmurtry66]

Because the facts of the case don't matter to the Trump apologists.

Yup. And it only takes one

 

[mcmurtry66]

Of course it is sometimes. It’s not right if the case proves a defendant guilty and the jury decides otherwise just because. The OJ verdict was not right. At least one juror said she thought he was guilty but voted not guilty because the cops “were racists.”

The oj case had the outcome it did bc venue was changed. This is no different. Your take on law shit is the dunning Kruger effect in real time

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

The oj case had the outcome it did bc venue was changed. This is no different. Your take on law shit is the dunning Kruger effect in real time

Uh huh. I understand the venue change, but the direct reason was the jurors would not convict no matter the evidence. Sure that could have also happened with Trump, but it’s not 100 percent certain.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Uh huh. I understand the venue change, but the direct reason was the jurors would not convict no matter the evidence. Sure that could have also happened with Trump, but it’s not 100 percent certain.

No. The direct reason is the jury pool. Different jurors, the original location, would have had a different outcome. Guaranteed

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Sorry, COH. I think of you as a pretty long-time WC friend. We used to agree on nearly everything. When it comes to Trump, it seems your objectivity is totally gone. Regardless, we don't agree on much concerning him.

By the way, SeriusXM is satellite radio. I rarely watch TV for news or analysis. The POTUS channel is great for that, and the hosts aren't like Rush (who I used to listen to regularly) or Hannity (who I hated listening to for more than a few minutes). They really get all sides of issues involved. They do allow callers at times and some sound exactly like dbm or others inflicted with Trump Devotion Syndrome (TDS).

It doesn’t doesn’t make any difference to me what platforms you visit or what “experts” say. Cannon made an excellent point about the Smith appointment that every expert I’ve heard weigh in haven’t directly addressed. Most of the time they talk about Trump and records. Not about smith and his appointment. Her opinion is the first of its kind and isn’t bulletproof. Too bad the case is moot.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Nope. They’re legal scholars and litigators. Some have appeared before the USSC. I’m not listening to ambulance chasers, public defenders, legal clerks or even my old friends here. I know I’m not an expert so I seek experts.

Scores of legal scholars and litigators are wrong with their immunity arguments. As soon as the trial court mucked it up, I said on this forum she was wrong said the issue was going to the supremes, and also said what the result would be. That is exactly what happened. Not because I’m smart, but because the answer is clear, simple, and obvious to any lawyer with half a brain and isn’t driven by never-Trumpism. The three CA judges and three Supreme dissenters, along with many “experts” just don’t get it, including special counsel Jack Smith.

 

[DANC]

No, the Biden, Pence and HRC cases aren’t at all close to the same.

Well, we finally agree. Trump at least had a right to the documents and cooperated in giving the back. His house was raised in a blatant political move while he was cooperating with the FBI.

Pence and Biden had no reason whatsoever to have documents and, when they said they gave them all back, the FBI went and found more. Many of Biden's docs were in a facility paid for by the Chinese. Hillary just destroyed her documents.

You and your fellow Democrats are the only ones who think Trump's supposed transgressions were worse.

 

[DANC]

We really need an Emoji, of Popeye getting his azz spanked for post like this. #Popeyeazzspank !!

I almost feel sorry for Aloha, reading through this thread. His ass must have been red as fire.