DC Bryant Haines Contract

[YOTHN]

The contract details state he is making over $2 mil annually. Wow. The university is not kidding when they say they're serious about football. This basically puts him up in the top 10 for assistant coaches and only behind Wink Martindale and Jim Knowles in the B1G.

Bryant Haines Contract Details

 

[kmathum]

The contract details state he is making over $2 mil annually. Wow. The university is not kidding when they say they're serious about football. This basically puts him up in the top 10 for assistant coaches and only behind Wink Martindale and Jim Knowles in the B1G.

Bryant Haines Contract Details

Scott and Pam are very serious. We're lucky to have them. Finally an administration who supports football.

 

[Tammany Hall]

IIRC that’s a $200-300K bump from his Dec contract. He should send James Franklin nice gift for interviewing him.

 

[CraigHo]

I expect to see one of these about Shanahan in the near future as well.

 

[red hornet]

I expect to see one of these about Shanahan in the near future as well.

When the tide's in, all boats rise.

 

[OpenWheels]

I still think it's shitty to agree to a 1.9 million dollar contract, then reopen it with the Penn State leverage to get more. Basically going back on your word within mere weeks.

Cig's the bigger man to handle it gracefully in public.
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[Irregulars]

I expect to see one of these about Shanahan in the near future as well.

I would not be surprised. We are fighting tooth and nail with the big boys now.

 

[76-1]

I still think it's shitty to agree to a 1.9 million dollar contract, then reopen it with the Penn State leverage to get more. Basically going back on your word within mere weeks.

Cig's the bigger man to handle it gracefully in public.
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It's more likely that we preemptively upgraded his contract at our end in order to be certain we kept him...

It seems clear that he can command even more than what we're paying him even with the latest upgrade...

He had the # 2 D in the nation along with the # 1 run D... Nearly every other school out there wants him...

We're lucky* he and his family seem to like it here and that he decided to stay...

*((I say this while retaining my Fans Right of Irrationality - turning on him in a heartbeat if we don't have great games on D against All of our serious Big Ten opponents [and if we don't hold p u to 3 FG's, or less, in the Bucket Game]...)) 😉

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Edited: We had the 2nd ranked overall Defense (per the NCAA)...

 

[OpenWheels]

It's more likely that we preemptively upgraded his contract at our end in order to be certain we kept him...
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You signed the new deal, what are you interviewing for? "Yeah Indiana, thanks, you're my fallback position."

I understand interviewing after a year, but not a few weeks. It's BS.

Maybe it was agreed between him and Cig on the first deal I guess. Then I can see it.
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[YOTHN]

You signed the new deal, what are you interviewing for? "Yeah Indiana, thanks, you're my fallback position."

I understand interviewing after a year, but not a few weeks. It's BS.

Maybe it was agreed between him and Cig on the first deal I guess. Then I can see it.
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I couldnt disagree more. This is standard practice to me. A coach isn't going to want to hinder another coaches career progress. That can create an awful environment. Signing the deal was a formality as was the understanding that either coach could still take new roles. For coaches it's an open market and if the university wants to strengthen their hold on their staff, they pay them enough and structure the buyout so that it makes it hard for them to leave.

 

[red hornet]

I would not be surprised. We are fighting tooth and nail with the big boys now.

The mere fact that Indiana enhanced their positions to keep key assistants & the HC is a tribute to our University wishing to continue Indiana's success in FB. We are now a FB school.

 

[vesuvius13]

The mere fact that Indiana enhanced their positions to keep key assistants & the HC is a tribute to our University wishing to continue Indiana's success in FB. We are now a FB school.

Yes, IU is now a football school as long as faculty doesn't get rid the IU President. It is nice to know IU will do what they need to support football along with other sports.

 

[OpenWheels]

I couldnt disagree more. This is standard practice to me. A coach isn't going to want to hinder another coaches career progress. That can create an awful environment. Signing the deal was a formality as was the understanding that either coach could still take new roles. For coaches it's an open market and if the university wants to strengthen their hold on their staff, they pay them enough and structure the buyout so that it makes it hard for them to leave.

And I disagree. Sure, IF it was agreed to that the first new deal was a 'formality' and had no teeth, then Cig must have been still working to vet his potential candidates which is important, can't be left with weaker candidates because you're last... If it was signed and agreed to then Cig would've moved on to other important subjects, because for this year, his guy was staying.

So to say "I'm staying", Cig stops any efforts to have another guy on the line, and then a few important weeks later say 'maybe not, Penn State offered more', sucks. But as you and 76 indicate, maybe that's not the way it went down. I sort of assume you're right because Cig seemed OK with it in public.

Of course he wouldn't want to restrict opportunities for his guys. No way, he's in their corner. But that's why signing the first deal mattered, IMO. Until it didn't.
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[76-1]

And I disagree. Like I said, IF it was agreed to tht the first new deal was a 'formality' and had no teeth, then Cig must have been still working to vet his potential candidates which is important, can't be left with weaker candidates because you're last... If it was signed and agreed to then Cig would've moved on to other important subjects, because for this year, his guy was STAYING.

So to say "I'm staying", Cig stops any efforts to have another guy on the line, and then a few important weeks later say 'maybe not, Penn State offered more', sucks.

But as you and 76 indicate, maybe that's not the way it went down. I sort of assume you're right because Cig seemed OK with it in public.

Of course he wouldn't want to restrict opportunities for his guys. No way, he's in their corner. But that's why signing the first deal mattered, IMO. Until it didn't.
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We had all best get used to it...

If we have an 10-1 or better record going into the Bucket Game next November nearly every school in the country will consider attempting to hire them away from us, individually or collectively...

Just the price of success at this level...

 

[OpenWheels]

I hope Bryant comes through, again. He's a very impressive coach.

But B1G offensive coaches will also spend the off-season game planning for him now that they've had a sour taste of what he can give them. And they're really good too.

Should be fun!
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[YOTHN]

And I disagree. Sure, IF it was agreed to that the first new deal was a 'formality' and had no teeth, then Cig must have been still working to vet his potential candidates which is important, can't be left with weaker candidates because you're last... If it was signed and agreed to then Cig would've moved on to other important subjects, because for this year, his guy was staying.

So to say "I'm staying", Cig stops any efforts to have another guy on the line, and then a few important weeks later say 'maybe not, Penn State offered more', sucks. But as you and 76 indicate, maybe that's not the way it went down. I sort of assume you're right because Cig seemed OK with it in public.

Of course he wouldn't want to restrict opportunities for his guys. No way, he's in their corner. But that's why signing the first deal mattered, IMO. Until it didn't.
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Right but my whole point was stating your "if", is already a formality for any assistant coaching contract. That's what nullifies the rest before it even starts.

 

[OpenWheels]

I guess the key is we have to last longer in the playoff, ideally be the last one standing. So the other teams will be waiting on us, instead of us on them, when it comes to poaching coaches.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

Unfortunately good coaches have all the leverage.

 

[td75]

Indiana is very serious about football. The two times restructuring of Haines' contract in a very short window tells just how serious they are about winning football.

 

[red hornet]

Ohio St. tried to poach DL Durkin, DC from Auburn. HC Hugh Freeze doubled his salary to retain him. BTW, just saw Michigan's NIL is now 24M!

 

[rrdd2021]

Ohio St. tried to poach DL Durkin, DC from Auburn. HC Hugh Freeze doubled his salary to retain him. BTW, just saw Michigan's NIL is now 24M!

It was somewhere between $17 million last year. Also read that Oregon is now well over $30 million and rising

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

It will be interesting if this ever reaches a ceiling

 

[rrdd2021]

It will be interesting if this ever reaches a ceiling

Everybody made a big deal about OSU's $20 million last year but they let those figures out. If the truth was known, teams like Texas, Oregon, TAMU and a couple of others had higher NILs but just kept the figures under wrap. The 2 Texas QBs (Ewers and Manning) pulled in $8 to 9 million together. God only knows what Manning will make in 2025

 

[td75]

Now that Dolson has witnessed what a completely sold out Memorial Stadium can produce, I'm sure he's drumming up NIL for football.

The Indiana/Nebraska game was a beautiful sight for any longtime Indiana football person. I'm forever grateful that I was there with my wife and teenage son. Games like that WILL pump the NIL $$$!

 

[mobilehoosier]

I believe Cig is showing everyone that he values successful assistants. If you were looking, who would you want to work for?
Go Hoosiers!

 

[Bucket Getter]

I’ve heard directly from an AD staffer that Cig’s got all the NIL he needs. Not entirely sure how that relates to Oregon or Michigan or anyone else with a $30M war chest, but it’s almost got to be minuscule by comparison. Right?

 

[red hornet]

I’ve heard directly from an AD staffer that Cig’s got all the NIL he needs. Not entirely sure how that relates to Oregon or Michigan or anyone else with a $30M war chest, but it’s almost got to be minuscule by comparison. Right?

I hear ya, but as things keep inflating, "we may need a bigger boat"

 

[Tammany Hall]

Key question is how much NIL does Cig need? We aren’t close to the big schools but we have made great progress in 12 months.

 

[Walt542]

Key question is how much NIL does Cig need? We aren’t close to the big schools but we have made great progress in 12 months.

Yes, and the better players will benefit greatly as they have these schools bid against each other for their services. But the prices will just keep, going up and the price of playing for schools will keep going up.