I see. So then what is the difference between a college and a professional player?Welcome to reality. College athletes make 500,000
Your inference is that since a college player may get NIL money, torching them is fair game. Where’s the divide?
I see. So then what is the difference between a college and a professional player?Welcome to reality. College athletes make 500,000
I think you might want to do some more digging and check some assumptions of yours at the door.Well TJD was at 830,000 last year. A lot of clueless people buy Trey and Cupps shirts but I bet I'm very close.
High school players don't get paid. There is the divide.I see. So then what is the difference between a college and a professional player?
Your inference is that since a college player may get NIL money, torching them is fair game. Where’s the divide?
Maybe you should.I think you might want to do some more digging and check some assumptions of yours at the door.
How quaint…A radio commentator "torching" a college athlete? I think so.
Can't get the ball down the floor vs. Penn State. 8th in NIL sales. That's your Indiana fan base.Maybe you should.
5 Big Ten Schools Among Top-10 in NIL Store Sales For December
A total of five Big Ten schools ranked in the top-10 in sales for December, per The NIL Store. Purdue topped the list. Other conference schools in the mix included Iowa, Illinois, Indiana and Nebraska.www.si.com
Yeah, same here. Will take awhile before I get to any players. Can’t fire players.I’m never going to listen to Dakich, but Trey isn’t high on my list of problems.
Funny you mention that. I read an article today about Dartmouth mens team can unionize since a labor arbiter ruled they are employees of the university. Oh, boy!Yeah, same here. Will take awhile before I get to any players. Can’t fire players.
Man that would be something else. Knight had a team in 1993-1994 that was absolutelty perfect to go up against that Temple zone. Bailey, Graham, Leary, Evans and Hendedson. All five could make a three. I'd take any of those five to help come in and try and improve things. But it's not needed. Woodson has this lmao.Did I hear Todd Leary correctly say that he called the basketball office and offered to come in and help with some shooting mechanics on his own dime but the staff declined? If that's what I heard him say it just shows the arrogance of some members running this clown show.
Why does Buckner hate Alford?But he pretty much confirmed what we all know that woodson was quinn's hire. Said quinn hates alford.
We can’t even hire a “slightly above average college coach”.I still don’t have the slightest idea why anyone believes the fact that Alford played here would make him a better coach than what he has proven to be everywhere else.
None of the players would care at all about him playing here before.
He is a slightly above average college coach at best. Those are a dime a dozen
I'm not putting much credence in whatever the NIL Store is. Caleb Furst # 3 in overall sales? No Caitlin Clark, and Gabe Cupps in the top 10 in "sales"? Meaningless imo.Can't get the ball down the floor vs. Penn State. 8th in NIL sales. That's your Indiana fan base.
5 Big Ten Basketball Players Dominate NIL Sales in December
Big Ten basketball players accounted for half of the top-10 spots in sales for December, per the NIL Store. Purdue's Zach Edey, Braden Smith and Caleb Furst occupied the top-three spots. Indiana's Gabe Cupps and Iowa's Gabbie Marshall also made the list.www.si.com
Yes, being respectful and displaying tact often is anymore.How quaint…
Both are often still kids it’s just one gets paid. And if they didn’t? Then torching them would be off limits?High school players don't get paid. There is the divide.
Don't we have a dime to give?I still don’t have the slightest idea why anyone believes the fact that Alford played here would make him a better coach than what he has proven to be everywhere else.
None of the players would care at all about him playing here before.
He is a slightly above average college coach at best. Those are a dime a dozen
Yes.Both are often still kids it’s just one gets paid. And if they didn’t? Then torching them would be off limits?
That’s very interesting. Employees based on NIL?Funny you mention that. I read an article today about Dartmouth mens team can unionize since a labor arbiter ruled they are employees of the university. Oh, boy!
The real question is why is Quinn Buckner is in charge of hiring?
The top high school kids are also getting paid.Both are often still kids it’s just one gets paid. And if they didn’t? Then torching them would be off limits?
I’m gonna keep banging this drum: Is Woody a client of Quinn’s wealth management firm? Inquiring minds want to know if the Chairman of the BOT perhaps steered an enormous state employment contract to a client.The real question is why is Quinn Buckner is in charge of hiring?
It’s easy to read between the lines here… “liaison” my butt… was Woody on ANYONE’S shortlist? That hire came outta nowhere and it happened FAST too… it’s not like Woody had the world banging down his door… guy hadn’t been a head coach in seven years…For me, the real question is - Where is the evidence that QB "hired" anyone?
I remember quotes he made something like Woodson being a good man but other than that......
Yeah, that doesn't fit th "IU" narrative!I'm not putting much credence in whatever the NIL Store is. Caleb Furst # 3 in overall sales? No Caitlin Clark, and Gabe Cupps in the top 10 in "sales"? Meaningless imo.
It’s easy to read between the lines here… “liaison” my butt… was Woody on ANYONE’S shortlist? That hire came outta nowhere and it happened FAST too… it’s not like Woody had the world banging down his door… guy hadn’t been a head coach in seven years…
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Those systemic advantages have manifested how the last 30 yrs?At this point he would not be a better coach due to playing at IU, but year ago he certainly would have a recruiting gold mine not to mention the systemic advantages the IU program offers to coaches
Not one dollar amount mentioned, just rankings.Maybe you should.
5 Big Ten Schools Among Top-10 in NIL Store Sales For December
A total of five Big Ten schools ranked in the top-10 in sales for December, per The NIL Store. Purdue topped the list. Other conference schools in the mix included Iowa, Illinois, Indiana and Nebraska.www.si.com
Those systemic advantages have manifested how the last 30 yrs?
I've seen you mention this angle more than once. I hope there is not a shred of evidence to it. Because if it is true, that is a serious conflict of interest. And then some. As in...'relieved of all future duties" - serious.I’m gonna keep banging this drum: Is Woody a client of Quinn’s wealth management firm? Inquiring minds want to know if the Chairman of the BOT perhaps steered an enormous state employment contract to a client.
Because if Beard had interest in the IU job… it’s patently insane that he wasn’t interviewed for it. Or it’s perhaps something worse than insane…
Not saying he is the top answer, but we would kill for what he did at UCLA right now.Alford already flopped at UCLA. He's also not been in the Midwest for decades. I think he'd be better than Woodson, but not a high bar.
Sure, it’s all speculation… but if the Chairman of the BOT is openly influencing the AD’s choice on large state employment contracts (the hire of someone who is clearly his close friend) whilst also a partner in an Indianapolis wealth management firm (Mack Financial)… beyond the blatant nepotism, one feels inclined to speculate if there’s any financial connection between the parties and if Indiana University’s best interests are being upheld.You are still making assumptions about his role. If QB was driving force behind this, why hide it? Why didn't the press release say something like "QB was instrumental in this search" or "QB was the driving force for Woodson to hired"?
I think it is just as plausible that the conversation went this way.
SD - Hey Quinn, Stevens is out. What are your thoughts on the next candidate?
QB - Give Woody a call. He wanted the job when Archie was hired.
SD - I will. Do you think you could help out.
QB - Sure, whatever you need.
Neither mine or yours is based on anything but speculation.
I'm not a fan of Alford as a coach....or a person. His cookies n milk persona morphed into something more snobbish. Maybe we should shy away from hiring any more former heroes.
That said, to call Alford's coaching career mediocre is not accurate. He'll soon be at 700 career wins. Soon to be in the top 30 all time, with less years coaching than most above him. We're talking same range as people like Izzo, Tarkanian, etc.. The only thing Alford doesn't have is deep success at a P5 program. And some deep tourney runs. And Pierre Pierce on his resume. And...and...
When Steve's coaching career is over, he'll likely be known as the coach who won the most...and yet, won nothing.
With cause we could clean house for a discount lol (that fits my agenda).I've seen you mention this angle more than once. I hope there is not a shred of evidence to it. Because if it is true, that is a serious conflict of interest. And then some. As in...'relieved of all future duties" - serious.
I thought that kind of crap only happened inside the Beltway. And CrOOK County, IL.
oh I agree. If he stays healthy and interested for another 10-15 yrs, he'll go down in the books as one of the top 20 winningest coaches of all time. But won't even be considered one of the top 20 coaches. Ever.He's done really well at the non P5 level. Nothing wrong with that. Good career.
You are right if there is a financial tie between them then something should be done.Sure, it’s all speculation… but if the Chairman of the BOT is openly influencing the AD’s choice on large state employment contracts (the hire of someone who is clearly his close friend) whilst also a partner in an Indianapolis wealth management firm (Mack Financial)… beyond the blatant nepotism, one feels inclined to speculate if there’s any financial connection between the parties and if Indiana University’s best interests are being upheld.
Surely nobody would let such a conflict of interest slip by unnoticed… we’d have been all over that like a 3-way phone call, right?
Did you read the Indy Star article?You are right if there is a financial tie between them then something should be done.
You say that QB "openly" influenced the AD. You have no proof of that.
Once again, pure speculation.
Do you know what it is? When I google it, it looks like a single online retailer/store, so I don't believe this is anything but representative of 1 companies sales. NIL is a ruling, not an individual entity, and I'm guessing NIL Store has some PU or B10 background as the sales are heavily slanted towards B10 and PU. If you want to believe there is some big ground swell of interest and support in one of your bench players, go ahead. I also called into question anything that would have Gabe Cupps in it's top 10, and doesn't even have Caitlin Clark gear apparently, and I'd guess over the last 2 years her jersey sales dwarf everyone on the list.Yeah, that doesn't fit th "IU" narrative!
Exactly. This is obviously, OBVIOUSLY, one small part of the total NIL. Sad you had to type this out.Do you know what it is? When I google it, it looks like a single online retailer/store, so I don't believe this is anything but representative of 1 companies sales. NIL is a ruling, not an individual entity, and I'm guessing NIL Store has some PU or B10 background as the sales are heavily slanted towards B10 and PU. If you want to believe there is some big ground swell of interest in support in one of your bench players, go ahead. I also called into question anything that would have Gabe Cupps in it's top 10, and doesn't even have Caitlin Clark gear apparently, and I'd guess over the last 2 years her jersey sales dwarf everyone on the list.
I don't know what it is, but until I do, I'm not putting any stock into it. If you want to, be my guest.
Dan's opinion is that Trey Galloway is very talented and is not utilizing his gifts. I'd like to see Trey as a better leader. Perhaps he just can't shoot and never will. But he can affect the game in other ways he is presently not.