Everyone said the same thing about this year. And the year before. And oh yea, the year before that. I feel sorry for the kid that he made the mistake of coming to IU and staying. How could anyone in good faith advise a high level recruit to come to IU these days?
Amen to #7. Just can't wait for more player interview fun facts from Cav on favorite snack foods or tv shows for Bates and Lander. Yippee
Again, Mike Davis gave us hope his first couple years when most of his players were trained by Knight. Most of us thought with the more relaxed atmosphere and just because "It's Indiana!", IU was back on it's way to more banners, after all, "Any halfway decent coach can do well in Bloomington with our blue blood tradition" (snicker, snicker). If Davis had the elusive "it" as you and some others initially thought, he wouldn't be at Detroit Mercy today, winning games riding on not the coattails of Knight, but now on those of his talented son.
The Davis situation was tough he took the team to the NCAA the first year so it was going to be pretty hard to cut his loose at that point. Where it all went off the rails was the sampson hire. That was the legit time to get his hire right and I believe we could of had Beilein if we wanted if Herbert did not sitck his two cents. Obviously if we hire Beilein historey is totally different and we probably are talking about a couple of final fours we had made in the past instead of the current mess we are still in. You want to believe it will get fixed but it almost feels like we are simply a cursed program at this point. We have simply wasted to much time and so many years. Sampson set us back at least three years and Archie set us back another four years or at least wasted four years. And yes they were all wasted years under Archie.
How do you know no established coach would touch us with a ten foot pool did we actually try and get any of them? Did we try and get Scott Drew or Nate Oats? Rick Pitino? Are you telling me Iona could get Pitiono but we could not? No we did not want him because well IU wont touch a guy like that. I have read it was Stevens and Woodson second period. I did not read anything that said we even looked at anyone else. When we hired Archie it has been said he was the only one Glass looked at. He did not interview anyone else. So if you do not even attempt to get the big names you have no idea if we could get them or not.
Another post you are wrong. He runs at least 4-5 plays for Stewart every game. Out of every time out he runs something for both. We do not run an nba offense.
Layups uuughhh I think we need to learn how to make layups!
This isn’t who we are…yet. We do not run 4 out exclusively. He tries to. That’s why race takes those supposedly Ill advised shots. We simply don’t have enough shooters especially from the 4 spot to run it exclusively. Bottom line is we will eventually be an NBA style team. Guarding multiple spots. Running a wide open shooters game. It will be nice having 6’7” to 6’9” guys knocking down shots. We certainly haven’t had that and that’s what we are missing now.
Davis recruited and developed those players more than Knight. He wasn’t the ball boy.
Dumbest post of the year candidate. Great coaches aren’t afraid of high expectations. I can assure you the expectations are a lot higher at UK and they hire top notch coaches. We need to be more like UK and less like Iowa. Having too low of expectations left us with 9 years of Crean.
I have made that same argument before but just get shot down and told they are Knight players. But I am pretty sure Jeffries, Hornsby, Newton, Guyton, Leach, and Perry would not have come to IU with out Davis recruiting them for Knight.
We wouldn’t have that 2002 roster without Davis. We went to the title game in his 2nd season not the first.
Uh, he would be welcome on virtually every NCAA team next year if he opted for the portal.
You are wrong they wouldn't have come without Davis. Wasn't he only here for 1 year before he became HC?
Davis's last 2 teams were just not good.
He was hired without a formal coaching search, a stop-gap attempt to heal the gapping wounds from Knight's abrupt firing. When the athletic department caved in to the returning players demands for Davis to be hired or they would transfer elsewhere, Fife included, it was backpedaling in handcuffs, stuck in damage control duties. Davis lost me at, "I never understood the motion offense" uttered in smile at his first press conference as new head coach.
Yes, that was an epic moment.
Yeah but the problem was knight got fired in September and there was no chance to do a search so sadly the players did not of have some power. The timing was awful. So I guess you could tellhim he is out of a job in the spring right after he just made the NCAA but Davis is not the first guy who was made head coach after being interim coach for a season. I think Steve Fisher for one ws interim coach before his 1989 run and then got the job. It is easy to look back now and say we should not have given Davis a second year but at the time he had just won 21 games and had a good team coming back so it was a tough call. In fact I belive Davis won 20 plus games all of his first three seasons so he was not a complete bust at least compared to Archie and Crean. I think he made the NCAA four of six years. Archie the big zero for four.
I don't believe that bullshit for one second - that Knight went to his house and talked him out of it.
I heard from a reliable source that he actually reached out through back channels to express his interest in the IU job. However that was before the UT job had opened up.
If I recall there was a meeting before May decided and the word was he suddenly changed his mind after meeting with Knight. It was a long time ago so I do not totally remember the details but I remember people were shocked and did not see it coming because May was constantly with that current IU team and always hanging out at Assembly Hall.
I believe it. He was made for IU. We should have backed up the Brink's truck to his door.
I'm not saying Knight didn't influence him.
That is why I find it so hard to believe it when people say Woodson was all we could get, etc and nobody wanted the job. I do not believe that in fact I think Scott Drew probably would have taken it but he was never offered that we know of. I simply think Dolson had a two person list period and that was it.
Sure thing, fakepeaugh. Don’t confuse actual program expectations with fans who have no other meaningful thing to do with their lives then go online and beat their chests about a 30-year old set of expectations.
