Was Sudfeld a 4 or 5 year guy? Looking back, I wish he could have red shirted in 2012.
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WRONG. Paul Chryst runs an ACE offense with a lot of Fly Motion. They will fake or handoff the jet sweep on their dives, off-tackle sweeps, and traps.
I watched our guys push them around pretty good. Stevie Scott was impatient a lot and missed some holes that Gest was able to get in, while I think he did a nice job he still will get better.
Then you saw first hand that they didn’t run it all that well between the tackles. Not bad, but not a great night for the O line. Nothing wrong with the jet sweep, was just making the point that those 5 carries counted for an inordinate amount of the overall rush total.
That's not unusual. Many good rushing game stats are padded by a handful of big gainers.
I don’t know if you have ever called plays in a game but teams try to take away what they perceive is your strength. So instead of running at the strength bog the defense you attack the weakness.
I agree with your post. We really aren’t used to a coach who can utilize a strategy like that. We usually have to play first team from start to finish every game. Maybe we are in for a surprise. Next week we’ll learn much more. At least I hope so. Go Hoosiers!
525 yards in offense. 213 yards rushing a 6 minute drive to keep the FIU offense off the field. To end the game
You obviously didn’t pick up on the jet sweep discussion. Shouldn’t have tried to go into a more in depth discussion with you. Have a nice night!
Figured you had more of an appreciation for the nuances and details of the game since you said you used to coach.
Sill don’t know what you are talking about. Having coached offensive lines for 30 years I tend to focus on o-line play. Also having played for Coach DeBord I know he learned play calling from one of the best play callers ever in Red Faught. Run a play until the stop it.
4 year. I really don’t think it would’ve mattered. He probably would’ve left for the NFL regardless. He’s a rare QB for a program like IU. Hopefully Penix can have the same or better success over his career.
Maybe for next year. Right now, it's by far the best position group on the team.
150 yards between the tackles is pretty good. As I stated before people try to take away what they believe is your strength. They tried to take away our downhill running game and we crossed them up by running the jet sweeps also the passes in to the flat although not counted in run stats are part of run game now days. Also Stevie Scott missed opportunities to cut the ballots back and perhaps gain even more yardage. Yes it was not a perfect game but I will take 213 yards rushing and 525 yards and 38 points and I don’t care who you play. The other thing is that most teams make their biggest improvements between games 1 and 2.
I have to chuckle reading some of these posts. Somebody said “we have 5 good WRs and then not much after that.” I paraphrased that a bit but that was essentially the essence of it.
Do people not understand that this is the same case for pretty much every team? They have 4-5 guys that play the bulk of the snaps and 2 of those guys will be the main weapons. After those 5 guys, pretty much it’s guys that don’t get to play or are pure backups. So, in a sense, with exception of the really elite teams, everybody is going to be thin at WR.
Do people not understand that this is the same case for pretty much every team? They have 4-5 guys that play the bulk of the snaps and 2 of those guys will be the main weapons. After those 5 guys, pretty much it’s guys that don’t get to play or are pure backups. So, in a sense, with exception of the really elite teams, everybody is going to be thin at WR.
I wasn’t trying to be critical or complain about it, just trying give context for why Allen said WR was the thinnest position in the team
Danc and I go way back and aren't exactly friends...vbg...but you just said his posts are trash.
Judge and jury aren't you? You go all over this site just bashing people. You add nothing with such comments.
I guess trash is something you know well. Takes one to know one. Why don't you just post FB comments and leave people to their opinions. Believe me...they are every bit as good as yours.
Wow...what is the burr under your saddle? People are going to disagree...that doesn't make them stupid or trash. Grow up...
I think he was referring to Larry/Ord, not DanC. Larry trashing a thread is a regular occurance. He would argue with Vince Lombardi about who has the most football knowledge. PalmBeach will soon learn the ignore feature was made for Larry's multiple obnoxious, condescending personalities.
I didn’t trash any thread because I was trying to have a conversation about the running game. There are some posters here who definitely have some “interesting” agendas, that’s for sure.
IU has solid defense the last two years. Biggest turnaround on defense in the nation two years ago. Did you miss the last two seasons?
The defense has definitely improved but at the same time we haven’t set the world on fire. We had the 9th best Big Ten D in 2016 and 10th best last year. Not last, but not even top half of the conference. Still a lot of progress to be made.
The plan was to red shirt Sudfeld, but Tre Robertson - I believe it was Tre - got hurt and there was little to no choice but to play Suds. IU never looked back, except when Suds himself got hurt and the cupboard was pretty darned bare by then.
I was thinking Cam Coffman took most of the snaps after Tre got hurt. Did he get hurt too? I can't remember.
In 2012, I believe Coffman relieved out at UMASS where Tre was hurt. After that, I think both Sudfeld and Cam split time pretty much every game. I know both played in all 3 games I was at.
It was about a dearth of explosion plays from the run game, something we’re probably going to need. I’ll let you know when there’s another thread about Purdue and Northwestern s football facilities, which is much more your speed.
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You are always going to have explosive plays in the inside run game it is not that easy. Stevie Scott is not Jordan Howard, Tevin Coleman or even Divne Redding yet. It was his first game. I believe you would have seen some had Cole Gest not gone out of the game. I believe once Scott learns to be patient and looks for cutback they will come. He seems to run to contact instead away from it. But hey 70 yards is not bad for first college game.
Defensively, I am extremely disappointed in Jacob Robinson. Hes a Senior. And one of the most experienced DTs in CFB. A Captain. And he had 1 tkl. For comparison, Jerome Johnson had 4 tkls, 1 sack, and 1 forced fumble. Start Johnson please.
At first I agreed with your analysis, but after watching the recorded game, he was held so often his shirt was stretched to the point it did not come close to fitting. I don't think this will happen again.
Holding by FIU was amazing...I mean it was evey play and blatant at that...vbg. That was true homer stuff. He wasn't the only one held to be sure.
It's about how I thought it would go. Offensive improvement from last year with so many returnees, and the opposite for the defense. Everyone could hope that guys could step in and take the place of all of the starters we lost last year, but that just is not the reality. They were starters over these guys for a reason.
Rare? Since '79, we've had Clifford, Laufenberg, Bradley, Schnell, Green, ARE, Lewis & Chappell. I would have taken all of those guys, other than Green (as a college QB) and Chappell over Nate.
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