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Government has no rights. Only people do. I’m not impressed with anybody who argues about Musk’s processes. Who cares? Substance matters.

Those who worry about Musk accumulating too much power don’t understand what power is. Trump and Musk, are exposing government weasels, charlatans, and crooks every day. Good.
Correct. I am guessing if musk was doing this under a democrat they would have no issues with it at all. Its all because he is doing it under trump period. Trump bad = musk bad!
 
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Government has no rights. Only people do. I’m not impressed with anybody who argues about Musk’s processes. Who cares? Substance matters.

Those who worry about Musk accumulating too much power don’t understand what power is. Trump and Musk, are exposing government weasels, charlatans, and crooks every day. Good.
Maybe they're exposing 'weasels and crooks' but to say they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater doesn't even begin to cover what they're doing. Good people are losing their jobs and having their careers ruined, all while Musk tweets (or x-cretes) the smiling sunglasses wearing emoji. It won't be so funny to the low-income MAGA voters when they feel the effects of all this government hacksawing.

And when will there be investigation into who is unloading billions into Trump's meme coin start? Oh right - there probably isn't an IG to look into it. Would you put your life savings on none of that money impacting the Trump administration's foreign policy?

The very real power of the US government is being concentrated at the top with no accountability and people are f*&k yeah-ing over some trimming of the fat on the edges of federal spending.
 
Why don't you explain to the board why you're suddenly against donor advised funds.

I guarantee you that if they go after those, some cause, group or even person you care about is going to be negatively impacted in a BIG way. Again, this type of overreach we're seeing might expose some questionable behavior, but the long-term effects it'll have on a lot of good being done is going to hurt this country for a generation.
 
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Why don't you explain to the board why you're suddenly against donor advised funds.

I guarantee you that if they go after those, some cause, group or even person you care about is going to be negatively impacted in a BIG way. Again, this type of overreach we're seeing might expose some questionable behavior, but the long-term effects it'll have on a lot of good being done is going to hurt this country for a generation.
None of your doom forecasts will come true. And you will never come back and eat your crown.

Rinse. Repeat.
 
Why don't you explain to the board why you're suddenly against donor advised funds.

I guarantee you that if they go after those, some cause, group or even person you care about is going to be negatively impacted in a BIG way. Again, this type of overreach we're seeing might expose some questionable behavior, but the long-term effects it'll have on a lot of good being done is going to hurt this country for a generation.
I’m just happy to see the transparency. You can draw your own conclusions. Without the transparency you are missing key data
 
Maybe they're exposing 'weasels and crooks' but to say they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater doesn't even begin to cover what they're doing.
Don’t necessarily agree. I won’t deny there may be some worthwhile programs lost, however it looks to like a pause or delay is most likely.

The very real power of the US government is being concentrated at the top with no accountability
Strongly disagree. The Trump administration is the most watched in history. To the point of being petty.
 
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Don’t necessarily agree. I won’t deny there may be some worthwhile programs lost, however it looks to like a pause or delay is most likely.

I guess we're wired differently. Exposing corruption is one thing, but spiking the football while some 'worthwhile programs' disappear overnight is kind of a sad state of affairs. It'll be interesting to see if some of the MAGA crowd directly impacted will make the connection with the impacts they'll feel down the road.

Strongly disagree. The Trump administration is the most watched in history. To the point of being petty.
Do you know who is investing Trump's meme coin?
 
If I were a church or any type of foundation or non-profit, I would be very worried about DOGE having donor advised funds in their sites.


Let’s see….hopefully nothing nefarious going on and this is all on the up and up. But I think we both know the answer.
 
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If I were a church or any type of foundation or non-profit, I would be very worried about DOGE having donor advised funds in their sites.
You need to quit replying to this thread, it really shows your ignorance!
 
Government has no rights. Only people do. I’m not impressed with anybody who argues about Musk’s processes. Who cares? Substance matters.

Those who worry about Musk accumulating too much power don’t understand what power is. Trump and Musk, are exposing government weasels, charlatans, and crooks every day. Good.
You claim to be a lawyer and yet couldn't care less about process? Serious question. What's wrong with you?
 


Let’s see….hopefully nothing nefarious going on and this is all on the up and up. But I think we both know the answer.
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We agree that transparency is a good thing, I'll give you that.
WOW !!! You are bitch because YOUR weasels may not be receiveing tax dollars from an obvious under the table swamp design, and then say that you are for "transparency". No shame you have.
 
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WOW !!! You are bitch because YOUR weasels may not be receiveing tax dollars from an obvious under the table swamp design, and then say that you are for "transparency". No shame you have.
My weasels? Who are my weasels? What are you talking about?
 
I guess we're wired differently. Exposing corruption is one thing, but spiking the football while some 'worthwhile programs' disappear overnight is kind of a sad state of affairs. It'll be interesting to see if some of the MAGA crowd directly impacted will make the connection with the impacts they'll feel down the road.
The programs that are worthwhile can be done without tax dollars. I wish them the best of luck.
 
The programs that are worthwhile can be done without tax dollars. I wish them the best of luck.
I would like you to explain this line of thinking to me. By all means, please do a deep dive into what you consider “worthwhile” programs and how they’re going to supplement a chunk of their budget overnight.

I’m actually being serious because I can’t understand how you might be here.
 
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I would like you to explain this line of thinking to me. By all means, please do a deep dive into what you consider “worthwhile” programs and how they’re going to supplement a chunk of their budget overnight.

I’m actually being serious because I can’t understand how you might be here.
The ones that are worthwhile are the programs that are able to exist without tax dollars.
 
I would like you to explain this line of thinking to me. By all means, please do a deep dive into what you consider “worthwhile” programs and how they’re going to supplement a chunk of their budget overnight.

I’m actually being serious because I can’t understand how you might be here.
I could go through every nonprofit in my community and cut out half the programs. They make no difference. Fictional outcomes. They’re in existence to fund the social workers who work there and create work for themselves
 
I would like you to explain this line of thinking to me. By all means, please do a deep dive into what you consider “worthwhile” programs and how they’re going to supplement a chunk of their budget overnight.

I’m actually being serious because I can’t understand how you might be here.

This isn’t meant to be an insult or snide comment, but that might be the most naive and clueless post to ever appear here.
I don’t think it is. Degrees matter and we’re generalizing. What’s not okay is to immediately cut funding. But gradually with an onus you need to find alt funding is potentially a good thing.

United way used to have a panel process. A massive volunteer recruitment and agencies divided into groups. Kids. Addicts. Health. Etc. Then the volunteers would visit each agency, review the books, listen to a board presentation, then go back and decide allocations.

They moved away from that to legacy agencies. Total bs. Old guard nonprofits that are entrenched just get money. Good for their budget. Bad for outcomes. That’s the Joe Biden way of gov. Day one I will restore every penny to WHO. Well wait. They fckd up. Wouldn’t it be better to actual audit their books and outcomes? That’s the trump Musk way. We need that
 
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I could go through every nonprofit in my community and cut out half the programs. They make no difference. Fictional outcomes. They’re in existence to fund the social workers who work there and create work for themselves
That may be true, but it doesn't discount the point I was making though.
 
This isn’t meant to be an insult or snide comment, but that might be the most naive and clueless post to ever appear here.
You belong the the losing party that supports only spending others people money with no accountability. If it is so damn important and critical, go find funding outside of tax dollars and also make sure that you assume some lifestyle pain so that you actually have skin in the game. I officially refuse for your and your ilk to spend my tax money that I have no way to stop (that is THEFT!). If you can explain why I should voluntarily donate, I will be all in! hundred% ! Now put your $ where your mouth is, or your foot and STFU. Put in the effort (outside of my forced servitude)!
 
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I don’t think it is. Degrees matter and we’re generalizing. What’s not okay is to immediately cut funding. But gradually with an onus you need to find alt funding is potentially a good thing.

United way used to have a panel process. A massive volunteer recruitment and agencies divided into groups. Kids. Addicts. Health. Etc. Then the volunteers would visit each agency, review the books, listen to a board presentation, then go back and decide allocations.

They moved away from that to legacy agencies. Total bs. Old guard nonprofits that are entrenched just get money. Good for their budget. Bad for outcomes. That’s the Joe Biden way of gov. Day one I will restore every penny to WHO. Well wait. They fckd up. Wouldn’t it be better to actual audit their books and outcomes? That’s the trump Musk way. We need that
There are definitely non-profits who misuse their funding. And it is usually the bigger ones like you mentioned that are the worst offenders. There are watchdog programs that monitor that stuff and in my experience in past roles, donors really do look at that kind of reporting. And 990s. And I've seen and heard of non-profits tightening their belts as a result. It's usually bloated CEO salaries, but it's also areas of actually losing sight of their mission and just focusing on being overstaffed in a bigger building than they actually need.

That said, there are some real initiatives and non-profits that won't last long if their federal funding dries up. The Appalachian region is filled with them. There is zero chance most of those would survive on private and corporate philanthropy.
 
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You belong the the losing party that supports only spending others people money with no accountability. If it is so damn important and critical, go find funding outside of tax dollars and also make sure that you assume some lifestyle pain so that you actually have skin in the game. I officially refuse for your and your ilk to spend my tax money that I have no way to stop (that is THEFT!). If you can explain why I should voluntarily donate, I will be all in! hundred% ! Now put your $ where your mouth is, or your foot and STFU. Put in the effort (outside of my forced servitude)!
This isn’t meant to be an insult or snide comment, but that might be the most naive and clueless post to ever appear here.
 
There are definitely non-profits who misuse their funding. And it is usually the bigger ones like you mentioned that are the worst offenders. There are watchdog programs that monitor that stuff and in my experience in past roles, donors really do look at that kind of reporting. And 990s. And I've seen and heard of non-profits tightening their belts as a result. It's usually bloated CEO salaries, but it's also areas of actually losing sight of their mission and just focusing on being overstaffed in a bigger building than they actually need.

That said, there are some real initiatives and non-profits that won't last long if their federal funding dries up. The Appalachian region is filled with them. There is zero chance most of those would survive on private and corporate philanthropy.
Agreed. And I don’t even necessarily mean to imply there’s malfeasance and defalcation and all that shit. Just to say hey. Shine a light on it. This is being funded at this amount. Is it worth it. What are the outcomes. What is it costing taxpayers to achieve them. Etc.
 
Elon please confirm this. I wouldn’t be surprised if.

Get your anti-US and anti-Ukraine propaganda straight from Russia controlled Pravda instead of a Twitter Twit.

 
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