If Indiana was smart enough to hire him he would take them back to being good every year. Unfortunately half the fanbase lives in 1960 and thinks kids come to school to make A’s and wear the cream and crimson. He’s not a straight arrow so he can’t lead men!
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Exactly....Just like I don't think anyone condoned the actions of KS. Sometimes, even if we don't agree, we accept---especially when it comes to , well, sports. To question someones integrity/morals, for accepting how things are, is silly.
I do not condone stealing---but I can accept why some do it. Does that put my integrity into question?
EDIT---TBH my friend, I just have a hard time with those who approach life with the , "holier than thou" stance. It reaks of hyprocisy.
Not sure you understand that you're accepting to the point of condoning a lying cheat.
Kelvin Sampson resigned. IU couldn't have kept him even if they wanted to. The NCAA slapped a five-year "show cause" penalty on him. IU couldn't possibly have shown cause.
1. Doesn't make any sense.
2. You don't know me if you think I'd piss on the military.
Not a Navy guy.....But most Sr. Officers I knew, spent their time behind a desk.
I don't know you....But the somewhat, "holier than thou" persona you put off, makes me think some of the stories would make you question some of us "grunts" integrity. Or , well, some of the military's practices.
Getting the job done behind a desk, is much different than getting the job done outside of that desk.
What Kelvin Sampson did was nothing literally in the scale of college basketball. It’s like the smallest infraction I could ever imagine and people at IU acted like he was Jerry Sandusky. If you all would have gotten over that he would have Indiana constantly in the final four picture. He’s a great coach.
You’d be wrong about how I led.
We don’t start out as Senior officers.
There’s nothing holier than thou about expecting honesty and integrity in leaders.
Drugs and guns were on campus. But ok..
I don’t know what about IU not being able to keep Sampson even if they had wanted to people don’t understand.
so weird how so many posters try to take blind shots at your.naval career. what the hell. I'm not going to tell anyone that I am neurosurgeon and a porn star.
1. I would be then
2. Ya don't say
3. Agree. But sometimes hands get dirty my friend. And it doesn't have a damn thing to do with honesty/integrity.
Who took a shot? I certainly didn't. As a fellow veteran, I would never do that. He worked extremely hard to obtain Senior Officer, status----I tip my cap. I just explained to him the scenery aint as pretty as it from behind a desk.
And he knows this.
Drugs and guns on a college campus? Oh the horror. Please tell me this was only a problem in the late oughts?
No? Oh dear.
My bad. Mis read your original question.
Interesting status for IU, if it plays out.
I get that, I’m saying after the show cause, they should have offered him again. As shown at Houston he can build a power. They could have even sued the NCAA as shown many times since then.
Ok.. I mean I’m sure that’s never happened in the history of college athletics. Look at Michigan State, another of their players just got shot but everyone loves Izzo and he’s had more incidents than any coach in the Big 10.
In all large organizations that have major field operations there are politicians trying to poison each other with power point presentations in administrative positions and there are the guys in the field often up to their necks in shit that are tasked to get things done. As long as people are placed in the proper of these groups based on their natural abilities, and both groups respect the reasonable efforts of the others, then things work out. When administrators turn their lofty attention on the field guys for minor transgressions then the whole organization is poisoned and IU basketball is still trying to recover from two poisonings.
We have the worst case-two broken eggs with no omelet.
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Things are going to head south soon buckle up. I have a feeling this big ten season were going to finish near the bottom. If May and Beard do very well you have to go after one plus season 4 looks very bad for Woodson roster wise you might as we start over with Beard or May Woodson is 65.
Something else was brewing too. Knight controlled a lot of the endorsements. The Athletic department wanted those sponsorships very badly. Knight was a purist and a control freak. He didn’t want anything in assembly hall. Money played some part in this.
He burned his bridge and didn't deserve a second chance. This doesn't even get at the drug and scholastic issues that were going on at IU while he was there. It was reportedly a serious mess.
Well.. I would have a hard time rooting for that..sue me.
Even if this year goes verey south and next year is bad I bet IU would still keep woodson unless he quits. They will not fire a former player, especially dolson, because woodson is his buddy. I do not think we are very good but luckily for woodson the big ten is awful this year so a .500 record is something that can be achieved in conference.
I hope your wrong this board might melt down two straight years not making the tournament and May or Beard goes to Louisville.
Louisville and Michigan are both pretty attractive jobs that are very likely to be open this year. My guess is, one or both may wind up there, unless Beard is just confident he can do as well at Miss and in the SEC. I definitely think there are benefits of being at a football first school in the SEC if you're looking for a career position. No reason he can't take them to the top of the SEC, as Pearl has done at Auburn.
Sampson’s cheating was minor and leas than half of the problem.
His disdain for what IU stands for academically, behaviorally and culturally was the issue. Far worse than Knights temper issues
I keep hearing about the "drug/gun" issues. So I have to ask----Was this being overlooked, UNTIL KS got whacked(again) with the calls/text? Or.....was IU willing to look the other way with the texts/calls, but then uncovered the other issues, i.e drugs and guns, scholastic issues?
TBH, either way, its not a good look for IU. At all.
Why its a top 10 program plus he will get paid alot a money. I think Beard, Pearl, or May will be in Lousville next season.
It's not a word. Generation doesn't change that.
Serious question. How do you get it past autocorrect? I can't type it without effort.
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