No, here's how ESPN described that game: "Suddenly, the ground game has replaced Tom Brady as the heart of the Patriots' offense."
Make sure you buy Brady dinner before you take him home.
Brady suspended for 4 games HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Make sure you buy Brady dinner before you take him home.
54 pages, savor every word (I did), Brady's case:
https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows....edia Resources/7.29.15 petition to vacate.pdf
https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows....edia Resources/7.29.15 petition to vacate.pdf
Wow. I don't have time to read all of that, nor do I care to, but just glancing at parts, I'm impressed. NFLPA's lawyers are suitably combative, and made a coherent argument, even if I don't think it will fly.
Unfortunately, it won't matter. The NFL filed first, probably for the sole purpose of preventing the case from being heard in Minneapolis, and federal courts usually go with a first-filed rule. It will be really hard for Brady to claim that going to NY is somehow a debilitating inconvenience for him, but traveling to Minny is not. Did they address the venue issue at all in the filing?
And that didn't take long. The NFL has already made a motion to have the NY court enjoin the case from proceeding in Minnesota. They probably already had it written before the NFLPA even filed.
I just got a disturbing mental pic of chitter fapping to an already soiled copy of the NFLPA's brief....This is devolving to lows that I did not think possible.
No need to read it. Everyone outside of the few remaining brainwashed Pats fans know exactly what happened. Everyone knew from the start. The throwing away of the phone was monumentally stupid and mere icing on the cake.
And hence why it took them so long to issue the ruling in the first place. They had $1,000 / hour top-shelf lawyerly types, wearing fine suits, I'm sure, on this for a month, anticipating all the potential legal maneuvers that the NFLPA would come up with.
This was an ambush.
Here's what I'm hoping:
NFLPA responds to the NFL's motion with the accusation that the timing of their original lawsuit was suspicious as hell, coming right on the heels of The Rog's order, and that they clearly had not valid reason to file, but were only trying to venue-shop. Then this thing turns into prime time courtroom drama level nastiness.
Also, I loved Kraft apologizing to his own fans today. This is the most entertained I've ever been by a team I really don't care about.
NFLPA responds to the NFL's motion with the accusation that the timing of their original lawsuit was suspicious as hell, coming right on the heels of The Rog's order, and that they clearly had not valid reason to file, but were only trying to venue-shop. Then this thing turns into prime time courtroom drama level nastiness.
Also, I loved Kraft apologizing to his own fans today. This is the most entertained I've ever been by a team I really don't care about.
They tie facts in this case to the Adrian Petersen case
On July 28, 2015, Commissioner Goodell issued the Award upholding
Brady's discipline in its entirety. The Award is self-effectuating.
96. Despite this fact, the NFL engaged in attempted preemptive forum
shopping by filing-virtually simultaneously with the issuance of the Award (the timing
of which was unknown to the Union and Brady)-a proceeding to confirm the award in
the Southern District of New York. The League knew that the central notice issues the
CASE 0:15-cv-03168-RHK-HB Document 1 Filed 07/29/15 Page 32 of 54
Union had raised in the arbitration were directly related to the Peterson proceedings
pending before this Court and yet deliberately sought to avoid review by this Court.
97. The next day, the NFLPA and Brady filed this Petition and will shortly
hereafter file a Motion for Preliminary Injunction, or in the Altemative, for Expedited
Disposition, seeking to have Brady's suspension enjoined prior to September 4,201'5 in
order to prevent him from suffering severe and irreparable harm from the loss of regular
season games due to his unlawful suspension.
also
JURISDICTION AND VENUE
29. This is an action to vacate the Award pursuant to Section 301 of the LMRA
and Section l0 of the FAA. This Court has subject matter jurisdiction in this action
pursuant to 28 U.S.C. $ 1331.
30. The NFL derives revenue from advertising, ticket sales, merchandising and
broadcast revenue throughout the State of Minnesota and is subject to personal
jurisdiction here. The Minnesota Vikings, one of 32 NFL franchises, is headquartered in
Eden Prairie, Minnesota and does business in this district.
31. Venue is proper in this court under 28 U.S.C. $ 1391 and 29 U.S.C. $ 185,
as the NFL regularly transacts business in this district.
The NFL was so slick that today they had to re-file their flimsy rushed 4-page complaint because they forgot to sign the one they filed yesterday
Their scheme to distance the proceedings from the same exact CBA arguments waged in the Minnesota district is laughable.
Yeah, but the NFLPA is going to have to convince the judge in NY of that, not the judge in Minneapolis.
All hope is not lost. Under 2nd Circuit case law, a court may ignore the first-filed rule in cases where there is a "showing of balance of convenience in favor of the second action" or "there are special circumstances which justify giving priority to the second." The first one isn't going to be an issue, but if the NFLPA can convince the judge that the NFL's suit was filed only for the purpose of forum shopping, they have a chance.
I said before it was almost impossible for Brady to win in court. The "almost" is dependent on them successfully removing the case to Minneapolis. Then he has a chance.
According to one expert, it is not uncommon for one judge to discuss it with the other, to consider the relevance of the cases before them to case law in the two districts, giving that more weight than the order of filing.
With the long history of NFLPA-NFL disputes being played out in Minnesota, that would seem to be a short discussion.
It is also pretty obvious forum-shopping.
I'm sure the judges will talk. There is also a history of NFL cases in NY so that's irrelevant. And yes, it's forum-shopping, but the NFLPA will have to show it's ONLY forum-shopping. They'll have to attack the NFL's stated reasons for staying in NY, as well.
Isnt the NFLPA forum shopping themselves by selectively choosing Minneapolis? If they feel they have a case it shouldn't matter what district they file in.
Yes, they are but they have a valid argument that the case deals with issues currently before the 8th Circuit.
I'd still give the NFL a 70/30 chance of winning.
It's a video of outside chitter and the removal of the logic and reasoning part of his brain.
Not "everybody" else. Some people believe in playing by the rules and winning the right way. That just has never been the Patriot way.
Case ordered to New York.
United States district judge Richard Kyle said in a statement that "This court perceives no reason for this action to proceed in Minnesota," according to Mike Garafolo of Fox Sports.
"Indeed, the court sees little reason for this action to have been commenced in Minnesota at all," says Kyle, via Garafolo. "Brady plays for a team in Massachusetts; the Union is headquartered in Washington, D.C.; the NFL is headquartered in New York; the arbitration proceedings took place in New York and the award was issued in New York."
There goes Tom Brady again....always trying to break the rules.
United States district judge Richard Kyle said in a statement that "This court perceives no reason for this action to proceed in Minnesota," according to Mike Garafolo of Fox Sports.
"Indeed, the court sees little reason for this action to have been commenced in Minnesota at all," says Kyle, via Garafolo. "Brady plays for a team in Massachusetts; the Union is headquartered in Washington, D.C.; the NFL is headquartered in New York; the arbitration proceedings took place in New York and the award was issued in New York."
There goes Tom Brady again....always trying to break the rules.
Here's another good quote by the judge in that same transfer order:
"In a footnote, Kyle said the court 'strongly suspects the union filed in Minnesota because it has obtained favorable rulings from this court in the past on behalf of its members.' "
Imagine that.
I've gotta say, this thread is fascinating. I have NEVER seen a single poster publicly eviscerated so many times, and I've been around for a LOOOOOONG time.
And to think Brady could've killed all the commotion (and this thread) by simply admitting, "I did it, and I flocked up" when the issue first arose in January. The whole thing would've dried up and blown away in a couple of news cycles (3-to-5 days, depending on what was happening elsewhere in the world). Instead, he lied and he keeps lying, and now this will NEVER die.
The cell phone is the cherry on the sundae. What an absolute dope he is. When this began, it was fairly easy to view this as, "every QB does crap like this - no big deal." But as it's gone on, it's become apparent that he has sociopathic tendencies, specifically: he can't stop lying and admit that he did something, and will go as far as destroying a cell phone on or around the day he's to meet with the commissioner to avoid discovery of his acts.
No rational person can look at that and think anything other than, "He did it, and he will do ANYTHING to avoid admitting he did it." And the NFLPA jumping to his defense so stridently is akin to MLBPA jumping to the defense of the 'roiders in baseball: they have no other choice but to do it, even if it is clear to ANY RATIONAL PERSON that the player or players in question knowingly and willfully broke the rules.
Now, please excuse me - I've gotta go make more popcorn.
And to think Brady could've killed all the commotion (and this thread) by simply admitting, "I did it, and I flocked up" when the issue first arose in January. The whole thing would've dried up and blown away in a couple of news cycles (3-to-5 days, depending on what was happening elsewhere in the world). Instead, he lied and he keeps lying, and now this will NEVER die.
The cell phone is the cherry on the sundae. What an absolute dope he is. When this began, it was fairly easy to view this as, "every QB does crap like this - no big deal." But as it's gone on, it's become apparent that he has sociopathic tendencies, specifically: he can't stop lying and admit that he did something, and will go as far as destroying a cell phone on or around the day he's to meet with the commissioner to avoid discovery of his acts.
No rational person can look at that and think anything other than, "He did it, and he will do ANYTHING to avoid admitting he did it." And the NFLPA jumping to his defense so stridently is akin to MLBPA jumping to the defense of the 'roiders in baseball: they have no other choice but to do it, even if it is clear to ANY RATIONAL PERSON that the player or players in question knowingly and willfully broke the rules.
Now, please excuse me - I've gotta go make more popcorn.
Not when that much money is involved. There's 1696 players in the league. How many do you think have used steroids in their career starting in HS? And, here these people are infatuated with a few deflated balls, and yelling "cheater" when the legaue most likely has 3392 deflated balls on their rosters.
Money ruins everything, that's why ALL pro sports are nothing more than an industry creating idols for idiots to worship and with the money they make and want to continue making, what's a few msisteps. Cheating? Blah .. they all cheat. Every freakin one of them .Integrity in pro sports. That's laughable..
You could make the same statements about high-D1 sports, at least the "money" sports (football, men's basketball), especially the integrity component as it relates to the term "Student/Athlete." THAT is laughable, at every single school.
Agreed with the student athlete part, that's as laughable, especially at major univerities. Yup when it's grotesque amounts of money, and the people who play the games are not, ugh smart, (and football players are by far the dumbest) and the person they are competing for a lineup spot against uses, what do they do? Just give up making that kind of money and work at a car lot for chump change? Yea, right. LeBron's noggin is a good example. Best player in the world having tons of nagging injuries and losing his energy due to age. What to do.. what's a pair of deflated balls compared to millions.
I am glad that this thread is only convenient when you have things to say. It fits your M.O.
I am also positive that you searching for and posting those images is far worse than us flying right by them.
Unless you really get off on them.
Ugh, doesn't that fit EVERYONES MO? Or do you say stuff when you don't have anything to say. Oh, wait. you just did. Carry on, saying nothing.
I don't throw a tantrum and ruin the thread for others when I find it annoying. Then decide the thread isn't so annoying and worthy of my commentary when I have something to say.
Idiot.
Blah blah blah blah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ... that's what you sound like. Do you know that?
lol Ruin threads? Bwa ha ha ha ha .. Right Moops. You've never done that. Ever.
Those banners have all the merit of Marlon Brando's trophy in The Wild One. Or, if you don't know that one, they have all the merit of Barry Bonds' batting records.
The St. Louis Cardinals is a team that both sides of my family have followed for 4 generations. It is the only team we all have in common.
The Cards have been accused of hacking into the Astros scouting programs. Instead of covering up and making excuses, everyone that I have talked to is accepting it happened, want the guilty to be identified, accept the punishment, and get along with the season. There are differing opinions on why it happened, but fighting it makes you look desperate and that the game is more important than just entertainment and it somehow influences the quality of your life.
Like the Cardinals, the Patriots don't need to cheat to be successful. As a fan, I would hate to continue to drag my team though the mud. A minor thing like deflated ball should not be this big of a deal. Let Brady miss his games and come back healthy to make the playoffs in the final 12 games. It would be over. I figure the Patriots and the NFL can drag this out for another year.
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