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If they skip her, wow it sure makes the Democratic party look weak. The white elephant in the room is she is also a woman of color how would that play to the voters who are women and especially women of color? Trump is a wet dream for those who would market against him, if they passed on Harris it would become the biggest marketing target of all time.
Hmmmmm.
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Governor Parson Announces COVID-19 Related State of Emergency to Expire on December 31 | Governor Michael L. Parson
Governor Mike Parson announced that Missouri's COVID-19 related State of Emergency will expire and not be renewed on December 31, 2021. Governor Parson first issued an Executive Order (EO) declaring a State of Emergency existed due to COVID-19 on March 13, 2020.
I tried to find something similar to the top link for Missouri but couldn't.
Michigan's covid emergency order lifted in August 2021 which MO stayed in place til end of 2021.
All this to say, your thoery of Whitmer's authoritaian nature is going to be difficult to pull off based on the confusing state level responses and their inherenet vagary/inconsistency. I don't see Whitmer as on the front lines of wokeism by any real measure other than some probadbly regretable sound bites during the summer of Floyd.
Hmmmmm.
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Governor Parson Announces COVID-19 Related State of Emergency to Expire on December 31 | Governor Michael L. Parson
Governor Mike Parson announced that Missouri's COVID-19 related State of Emergency will expire and not be renewed on December 31, 2021. Governor Parson first issued an Executive Order (EO) declaring a State of Emergency existed due to COVID-19 on March 13, 2020.governor.mo.gov
I tried to find something similar to the top link for Missouri but couldn't.
Michigan's covid emergency order lifted in August 2021 which MO stayed in place til end of 2021.
All this to say, your thoery of Whitmer's authoritaian nature is going to be difficult to pull off based on the confusing state level responses and their inherenet vagary/inconsistency. I don't see Whitmer as on the front lines of wokeism by any real measure other than some probadbly regretable sound bites during the summer of Floyd.
Meanwhile...
It wasn’t duration as much as overreach. The extent of lockdowns and closings and absurdity of same. Nurseries golf etc. I’ve read that Michigan had the highest percentage of businesses forced closed in the country. Sue was also sued for her overreaching executive actions. There’s a reason her name is associated with lockdowns.Hmmmmm.
Michigan COVID-19 Tracker
COVID-19 pandemic in Missouri - Wikipedia
Governor Parson Announces COVID-19 Related State of Emergency to Expire on December 31 | Governor Michael L. Parson
Governor Mike Parson announced that Missouri's COVID-19 related State of Emergency will expire and not be renewed on December 31, 2021. Governor Parson first issued an Executive Order (EO) declaring a State of Emergency existed due to COVID-19 on March 13, 2020.
I tried to find something similar to the top link for Missouri but couldn't.
Michigan's covid emergency order lifted in August 2021 which MO stayed in place til end of 2021.
All this to say, your thoery of Whitmer's authoritaian nature is going to be difficult to pull off based on the confusing state level responses and their inherenet vagary/inconsistency. I don't see Whitmer as on the front lines of wokeism by any real measure other than some probadbly regretable sound bites during the summer of Floyd.
And no she set a progressive agenda to lure young voters.
Gov. Whitmer and Democrats flex new power in Michigan
In her State of the State speech, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer vowed to further defend abortion rights, expand protections for LGBTQ people and pursue stricter gun measures.
I have. Michigan was in the middle. Wasn't Florida but wasn't California either. About the same timeline as Ohio. Schools were same timeline as Indiana. Shut down for remainder of spring 2020 then opened back up fall 2020.
She was sued because she is a Democrat. Did Dewine get sued in Ohio? Maybe he did.
She was sued bc of overreach. Outdoor activities. Rules that made zero sense. Target open golf closed
If two year olds are in schools, there's a larger problem. Just sayin. And a regulation is never perfect.
Maybe MI's economy sucked or had a high number of businesses vulnerable to short term interruption. I have no clue.It wasn’t duration as much as overreach. The extent of lockdowns and closings and absurdity of same. Nurseries golf etc. I’ve read that Michigan had the highest percentage of businesses forced closed in the country. Sue was also sued for her overreaching executive actions. There’s a reason her name is associated with lockdowns.
And no she set a progressive agenda to lure young voters.
Gov. Whitmer and Democrats flex new power in Michigan
In her State of the State speech, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer vowed to further defend abortion rights, expand protections for LGBTQ people and pursue stricter gun measures.www.nbcnews.com
Agree with Mrhighlife, MI's response overall was middle of the road.
And that she lured young voters. I mean, yeah. She's a politician. They are, in my best MTIOTF, vote whores.
Whitner will have some 'splainin'Hmmmmm.
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COVID-19 pandemic in Missouri - Wikipedia
Governor Parson Announces COVID-19 Related State of Emergency to Expire on December 31 | Governor Michael L. Parson
Governor Mike Parson announced that Missouri's COVID-19 related State of Emergency will expire and not be renewed on December 31, 2021. Governor Parson first issued an Executive Order (EO) declaring a State of Emergency existed due to COVID-19 on March 13, 2020.
I tried to find something similar to the top link for Missouri but couldn't.
Michigan's covid emergency order lifted in August 2021 which MO stayed in place til end of 2021.
All this to say, your thoery of Whitmer's authoritaian nature is going to be difficult to pull off based on the confusing state level responses and their inherenet vagary/inconsistency. I don't see Whitmer as on the front lines of wokeism by any real measure other than some probadbly regretable sound bites during the summer of Floyd.
to do regarding the False Flag alleged kidnapping conspiracy.
As in 'what do you know and when did you know it?
It will drag her into a sordid mess of sketchy fed prosecutions.
Why would she have to explain that? If anything people need to explain some shit to her. I'd be livid at both sides I were her.
Whitmer says her COVID restrictions in hindsight 'don't make a lot of sense'
(The Center Square) – Three years after COVID struck Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer now admits that many of her early lockdown rules, in retrospect, “don’t make a lot of sense.”
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Gretchen Whitmer COVID report card: Lives saved, economy hurt, test scores fall | Bridge Michigan
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s first term was defined by COVID. A Bridge analysis finds the facts are clear: Her orders spared lives, but did so at a cost to the economy and K-12 learning.
Michigan had the worst COVID lockdowns, yet more deaths than other states
Gov. Whitmer shut down the economy and schools more than Indiana, Ohio or Wisconsin
www.michigancapitolconfidential.com
Pandemic lockdown closed 32% of Michigan businesses, highest of all states in U.S.
(The Center Square) – Pandemic restrictions forced 32% of Michigan businesses to close at least temporarily, the most of all 50 states in the nation, federal data show.
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Perhaps you could reread the post..?
'What did you know and when?'
Are you claiming Whitner played no part in the kidnapping plot?
Pool noodles cut to fit in the cups so people wouldn't spread covid by reaching into the cup to get your ball. 😄
COVID was only ever about one thing. I hope you normies have figured that out by now.
I go back and forth on this.
On the one hand, skipping over her just because they feel she can’t win would be pretty sketchy. It would beg the question why she’s there in the first place. There’s also the identity politics angle, which would be ammo for a lot of people.
On the other hand, if they could manage to get her completely on board with being skipped over somehow, a lot of the impact of the above would be negated.
Who knows what will happen. I tend to think in the end you’re right.
I think you're right, and that finally answers the question for me. Biden should drop out and endorse Harris. I'm confident the Dems are losing the white house no matter what, so this way gets past Biden and Harris both and truly opens up the party to move in a new direction for 2028.
They finally found the solution to revive Biden's comatose campaign...suprise travel junk fees. Who in the hell is running this shitshow?
Unless Harris doesn't want it...it'll be either Biden or Harris. Either way, Harris is about to become quite a lot more active in campaigning and politics in general.
I don't agree with quite a lot of what she's done, and her VP performance and overall absence is unsettling. But my goodness, the bar the other two fellas are setting is so incredibly low. I honestly just want someone that can come across as a normal human being. Her being a woman, and/or a minority doesn't zap a nerve for me...like I know it does a lot of people (on both sides of the aisle truthfully). So I'm open to actually evaluating her based on her words and deeds.
Not perfect. Not ideal. I wouldn't likely choose her anywhere near a top choice from either side. But is she better than the likely choices, at this point? Without question. With honestly the only reason being, she's marginally normal, and most likely doesn't have to wear a diaper.
He could still be prosecuted for at least some of the Ukrainian bribes given that he was only VP at the time. Just sayin'.
Shitlibs in Bloomington would stop their cars, get out, and yell "You're ****ing killing people, assholes" when I'd be playing 9, as my daughter played "soccer golf" from the 150 yd marker. 😄
They snuck in and vandalized the pro shop, and even painted over the starters clock we have (no, not a Rolex). 😄 No shame.
Just a cult.
Many of us saw what Fonda said out loud as soon as Pelosi reversed course from her "come down to Chinatown" speech in Spring 2020.
When the BLM riots were given "covid leeway" (which they should have, no 80 year old nursing home patients were rioting), it was obvious they knew Covid was largely meaningless to anyone under 50...
but you can't rig mail-in voting without amp'd up, "danger" in voting in-person.
Michelle could could get away with it, if she was willing to knee-cap Kamala.
Otherwise, the Dems will have to consider bribery. I don't think a SC position will cut it. Perhaps some private citizen could advance her $20M on a book deal if she steps aside.
No.....those actions had 0 to do with Trump as President.....
Wrong. And many legal analysts disagree. He made the payment to Stormy while President and the prosecution essentially argued, although we don't really know, is that the entire purpose of it was to win the Presidency. Much of the evidence introduced such as his conversations with Hope Hicks, again while President, has to be excluded. At minimum they have to do a hearing on the matters before any trial can be held. It was not held and will be thrown out. Maybe Bragg is crazy enough to try him again.
You have a conspiracy theory for every occasion. She lost. Period.
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Won’t vote for Covid crazies
MAGA-Nuts are very easy to understand. They’re slavishly devoted sycophants and when all those people were on the good side of Trump, they unanimously thought those people are good or great. Soon as they move to the bad side of Trump they’re all horrible. Happens every single time. Dbm is the poster child.
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It is quite odd how you butt heads with every single other Republican poster on the board. Who is the problem? You? Or every other single republican? I know how a narcissist would answer.
It has to do with him running for President.....has nothing to do with his official duties.
They claimed the entire purpose was to help his Presidential campaign. The Hope Hicks testimony must be struck per the decision. New trial.
Are there any obviously false Conspiracy Theories that you don’t believe in? Are you a Truther too? I need accurate answers for my file.
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They had their chance a year ago to change course but instead went along with status quo. It's my understanding that all Biden funds raised would default to Harris if he stepped aside. There is no capability for anyone else to setup any real campaign in this short of a period.
It's either Biden or Harris. I fully expect Biden to continue on.
If he isn't going to run he should just resign from office in full now, and let Harris take over the POTUS chair.
I thought he was referring to Harris. Got it mixed up with another Mushroom thread.
Not the same situation. Biden wasn't on the incumbent ticket. Harris is running on the incumbent ticket. Then there's the obvious identity politics issue of an old white guy vs. a younger woman of color.
'Helping his campaign' has nothing to do with his official duties as President. They are entirely separate matters, unlike the speeches he made prior to to 1/6 riot, wherein he was addressing the public on public matters.
You might want to check your facts. Pretty sure Michigan golf was back open by May 2020. I played up there late that summer. Our courses were also closed for the month of April 2020 here so not really any difference.
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