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Clinton only benefitted after Republicans gained control of the Congress and Clinton adjust his policies, I liked that Clinton adjusted to reality. Obama lied about ObamaCare and keeping your doctor; one of the architects laughed about fooling the people about it. Obama gave his supporters millions of dollars IE Solyndra and others that failed. After Republicans said GM would need bankruptcy and that is what happened anyway after bailouts. Trump had the economy humming before COVID but you go by media reports that edited his comments to make him look bad and wanted to destroy Trump despite him improving wages and helping minorities - especially.

I am not a big Trump supporter and would rather have DeSantis run for President in the 2024 election - he isn't a millionaire and still has student loans to pay back. The Democrats are full of billionaires and millionaires not the people you think run it. We need a president that is America first instead of spending so much in other countries. I am a libertarian that is somewhat conservative not locked into a political party until the democrats turned so far left. Now I just choose not to vote for most democrats or some republicans that are still locked into free trade with anyone.

You buy into too much propaganda.
 
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I'm petty sure AOC and her ilk would disagree.

Tell me about all the radical progressive policies Biden has implemented. I'd like to know.
What's implemented is immaterial to the bait and switch that he pulled. That moderates and republicans blocked his agenda has nothing to do with the bait and switch. He didn't get his way. That doesn't speak to what he wanted, which wasn't what people expected from a supposed moderate when he ran.

 
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How many did they add from this speech? And what does Trump have to do with it? Biden’s inflation is through the roof and my 401K is tanking. Biden is in charge not Trump. Does this dumbass think the louder he yells makes what he’s lying about true?

Trump is not the President, live in the present.

Playing cards last night and of course politics come up, one guy who claims to not be a Democrat said he just hates Trump, Trump will be arrested and Trump will be impeached? I looked at him and said he's not the President and let him out of your head it's too small a space for him to live.

Finally.
It's good to see the door closed on all those references to HRC and Obama...right?
 
Biden sounds more and more like a grouchy old man every time he speaks. I'm guessing he's feeling the walls closing in on him, as even Democrats are souring on him and ready to dump him in 2024. He spent 32 years running for president and it's all fallen apart 18 months into office.
Biden's issue is the post pandemic economic hangover is a president killer....and he doesn't have the personality, especially at his age, to be able to navigate it.

So he looks weak, old and ineffective while every week people get reminded at least twice how bad this inflationary post pandemic period is when they go grocery shopping or get gas.

This is a president killing economy.

Biden can't do much to stop it which makes him look weak.

Biden doesn't have the charismatic personality to deflect blame....so again he looks weak.

It's going to kill his presidency.

Don't kid yourself, the pubs have no ideas or solutions. They've shot down and refused any potential legislative relief efforts because that's what they do....they eliminate the fire department and then complain that the houses are burning down.

Biden is not the guy who can effectively navigate in that kind of environment, especially at his age. He needed Covid to fade away and the hangover to be small. Then coast on....

1. Removing Trump
2. Getting the country back to work.
3. Get us back to a fairly normal political environment.

He's got the personality to do that. He doesn't have the personality to navigate the economy going off the rails. Very few do, especially THIS economy but Biden absolutely doesn't.

You're hearing and will hear a lot of 'the economy was good before covid' from the pubs.

Yeah no shit and Nagasaki was quite lovely in 1944.

How will you (the pubs) fix it? Especially if Dems refuse to pass any of your proposed legislation in the name of political sabotage like the pubs just did?

I mean inflation is almost 12% in Florida. What the f is that clown governor doing!!!!!
 
What's implemented is immaterial to the bait and switch that he pulled. That moderates and republicans blocked his agenda has nothing to do with the bait and switch. He didn't get his way. That doesn't speak to what he wanted, which wasn't what people expected from a supposed moderate when he ran.

Are you saying you really expected FJB to govern as a moderate? Lmao. Everyone with the IQ of an Indiana corn cob knew he would be the most socialist President in US history if elected.
 
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Finally.
It's good to see the door closed on all those references to HRC and Obama...right?
Idk, I haven’t spent much time thinking about them. Didn’t like ObamaCare and some other policies of President Obama. I think he could have helped improve race relations and he didn’t. I do think he is a smart man with his heart in the right place even if I didn’t agree with it.

Hillary is a different story. And I’ll leave it at that.
 
Idk, I haven’t spent much time thinking about them. Didn’t like ObamaCare and some other policies of President Obama. I think he could have helped improve race relations and he didn’t. I do think he is a smart man with his heart in the right place even if I didn’t agree with it.

Hillary is a different story. And I’ll leave it at that.
My point was that if we can't bring up Trump because he is no longer president, then Obama is out, too...and HRC was never even president.
Right?
 
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Biden's issue is the post pandemic economic hangover is a president killer....and he doesn't have the personality, especially at his age, to be able to navigate it.

So he looks weak, old and ineffective while every week people get reminded at least twice how bad this inflationary post pandemic period is when they go grocery shopping or get gas.

This is a president killing economy.

Biden can't do much to stop it which makes him look weak.

Biden doesn't have the charismatic personality to deflect blame....so again he looks weak.

It's going to kill his presidency.

Don't kid yourself, the pubs have no ideas or solutions. They've shot down and refused any potential legislative relief efforts because that's what they do....they eliminate the fire department and then complain that the houses are burning down.

Biden is not the guy who can effectively navigate in that kind of environment, especially at his age. He needed Covid to fade away and the hangover to be small. Then coast on....

1. Removing Trump
2. Getting the country back to work.
3. Get us back to a fairly normal political environment.

He's got the personality to do that. He doesn't have the personality to navigate the economy going off the rails. Very few do, especially THIS economy but Biden absolutely doesn't.

You're hearing and will hear a lot of 'the economy was good before covid' from the pubs.

Yeah no shit and Nagasaki was quite lovely in 1944.

How will you (the pubs) fix it? Especially if Dems refuse to pass any of your proposed legislation in the name of political sabotage like the pubs just did?

I mean inflation is almost 12% in Florida. What the f is that clown governor doing!!!!!
The things being blocked are doing the moron in chief and his party a favor. Manchin saved them from even worse inflation. The gas gouging bill was more political stupidity that doubled down on the types of shit (Executive Order 13990) that has oil companies reticent to expand as is.

The Democrats are in control of the Executive and Legislative branches. They own the response and the problem.
 
The things being blocked are doing the moron in chief and his party a favor. Manchin saved them from even worse inflation. The gas gouging bill was more political stupidity that doubled down on the types of shit (Executive Order 13990) that has oil companies reticent to expand as is.

The Democrats are in control of the Executive and Legislative branches. They own the response and the problem.
 
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The things being blocked are doing the moron in chief and his party a favor. Manchin saved them from even worse inflation. The gas gouging bill was more political stupidity that doubled down on the types of shit (Executive Order 13990) that has oil companies reticent to expand as is.

The Democrats are in control of the Executive and Legislative branches. They own the response and the problem.
The gas gouging bill:

Yea- Dems 217, Pubs 0
Nay-Dems 4, pubs 203

Baby shortage relief bill:

Yea: Dems 219, Pubs 12
Nay: Dems 0, Pubs 192

All while complaining the loudest to the media about those two things (among others).

So yeah, typical two faced, back stabbing republican behavior of screaming the loudest and then intentionally blocking action.
 
The gas gouging bill:

Yea- Dems 217, Pubs 0
Nay-Dems 4, pubs 203

Baby shortage relief bill:

Yea: Dems 219, Pubs 12
Nay: Dems 0, Pubs 192

All while complaining the loudest to the media about those two things (among others).

So yeah, typical two faced, back stabbing republican behavior of screaming the loudest and then intentionally blocking action.
 
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As a older person we sometimes are referred to as a statesman.

It can be difficult to maintain the title of "statesman", which at one point in your life may have been deserved, when your not sure what day it is.

We former statesman learn to hide our lack of cognitive deficiencies in different ways. Trump has his style, and Biden has his.

Getting behind either Trump or Biden is doing harm to both of them and the country IMO.
 
lol, I can see why you would say that but everyone else see's things as I do other than him "the non-Democrat" it is a good group all on the same page. Politics hardly ever comes up unless the "non-Democrat" starts it and he gets his feelings hurt and leaves.
Is this the post that is supposed to explain why it's really a fun scene?
 
The gas gouging bill:

Yea- Dems 217, Pubs 0
Nay-Dems 4, pubs 203

Baby shortage relief bill:

Yea: Dems 219, Pubs 12
Nay: Dems 0, Pubs 192

All while complaining the loudest to the media about those two things (among others).

So yeah, typical two faced, back stabbing republican behavior of screaming the loudest and then intentionally blocking action.
They were bad bills...particularly the gas gouging bill. It would have helped nothing, in fact, it probably would have exacerbated the problem.
 
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The Washington Post fact checker tallies all falsehoods stated by all Presidents since GWB. As a raw count, Trump told about twice as many falsehoods per month than Biden and Obama combined. There are levels to lying, from bald-faced lies to distortions of fact to merely being misleading. Trump was to lying (each type) what Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are to wealth accumulation.

Like I am going to believe the Washington Post one of the most crap papers going.
 
Look into the mirror and you see who buys into propaganda too much. I research and don't rely on the MSM because they are too biased any more. But keep telling yourself you know the truth.

And I don't research? You are the one pied piping fox news bs
 
He got duped. He thought the cult represented the masses because they were amplified by the media and celebs. Now he's backtracking and floundering and it's too late. In just a matter of months he'll be a lame duck. 50 years in gov you'd have thought he wouldn't fall for a fad

He made the mistake of selling his soul and his presidency to the progressives, rather than just being the center- left guy he was for decades.

I'm not sure it would have matterd all that much... but he's done the dance of trying to appeal to everyone at the same time, pleasing no one, and looking rather incompetent with everything.

I'm not really surprised. I believe I posted back in the transition period that the bar of expectations for Biden was incredibly low.... that him just surviving (not dying) 4 years would have been all that could be called a success.
 
The asshole only cared about undoing anything obama did. Obama got the economy thriving. Trump did shit...other than getting people killed by trying to hide/downplay covid.

Also, you guys cared about what Clinton did when it had nothing to do with the job he was doing as president. Guess it just depends on who it is. ;)
When did obama have the economy thriving? You can't possibly be as stupid as the shit you have posted in this thread can you?
 
"The asshole"....lmao...why do people care if he's an asshole? I have never understood that facet. Is the mentality really "I would rather the country be garbage and have a nice guy as my president,than the president be an asshole and the country be thriving"?...and if so....why? Is it seriously all in the name of "being nice"? I don't get it. Maybe I'm an asshole though too,so it would make sense that I don't understand that way if thinking. The only problem....I don't care if I'm an asshole either. The "asshole" had us in a much better position than the "nice guy".
My thoughts 100% , been saying it for years. I don't want a ''nice guy'' for president. Biden isnt a nice guy either he is a bitter vindictive fool that can't do the job.
 
He made the mistake of selling his soul and his presidency to the progressives, rather than just being the center- left guy he was for decades.

I'm not sure it would have matterd all that much... but he's done the dance of trying to appeal to everyone at the same time, pleasing no one, and looking rather incompetent with everything.

I'm not really surprised. I believe I posted back in the transition period that the bar of expectations for Biden was incredibly low.... that him just surviving (not dying) 4 years would have been all that could be called a success.
Agreed on all counts.
 
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My thoughts 100% , been saying it for years. I don't want a ''nice guy'' for president. Biden isnt a nice guy either he is a bitter vindictive fool that can't do the job.
Forget nice. Do you want a President with some type of moral compass? I'm not opining on Trump's moral compass or Biden's, just asking the generic question--does that matter to you?
 
Forget nice. Do you want a President with some type of moral compass? I'm not opining on Trump's moral compass or Biden's, just asking the generic question--does that matter to you?
What moral compass are we discussing? You are opining on Trump's or you wouldn't have brought it up. Do I give a damn if a president is a womanizer? presidents have been having affairs long before Trump was in office and I know of no affairs while he was in office. FDR had a mistress, The Kennedy's? JFK was only one that was president but that whole family. Clinton, I'm sure many others. No, I could care less about a president's personal life. Hell catholic priests don't have a great track record on moral compasses. What I care about is doing their job. At least doesn't have a history of sneaking up from behind on children and doing creepy stuff and smelling their hair.
 
SKU, which news sources do you trust?
Unfortunately in today's world I really do not trust any of them. some are worse then others. i will watch and read news/opinions from both sides see if they agree on anything. I have read books from people on both sides. I will decide my opinion on if i feel it benefits or hurts the American people and what effect it has on the world. It's not perfect but everyone puts out stories to fit their narrative.
 
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Forget nice. Do you want a President with some type of moral compass? I'm not opining on Trump's moral compass or Biden's, just asking the generic question--does that matter to you?
WE hire a president to run an economy, among many other things, that directly effects and directs the entire globe. I want that person to put US first and with that, bring our friends along to reap the rewards. I could care less of he was to get a Kamalalala job in the oval, or call Jim Acosta a Corksucker. I want him to lead through strength, remove barriers for all Americans, ESPECIALLY the entrepreneurial middle and lower class that have SO much potential that only needs a mentor that will help them.
Moral compass, meh. go to confession, become an adviser, be a mentor to those that haven't achieved their potential. YOU (and that is a collective you, not a you you) be a part of something uplifting, be a part of the answers, not the questions.
Moral Compass question my ass.
 
Biden's issue is the post pandemic economic hangover is a president killer....and he doesn't have the personality, especially at his age, to be able to navigate it.

So he looks weak, old and ineffective while every week people get reminded at least twice how bad this inflationary post pandemic period is when they go grocery shopping or get gas.

This is a president killing economy.

Biden can't do much to stop it which makes him look weak.

Biden doesn't have the charismatic personality to deflect blame....so again he looks weak.

It's going to kill his presidency.

Don't kid yourself, the pubs have no ideas or solutions. They've shot down and refused any potential legislative relief efforts because that's what they do....they eliminate the fire department and then complain that the houses are burning down.

Biden is not the guy who can effectively navigate in that kind of environment, especially at his age. He needed Covid to fade away and the hangover to be small. Then coast on....

1. Removing Trump
2. Getting the country back to work.
3. Get us back to a fairly normal political environment.

He's got the personality to do that. He doesn't have the personality to navigate the economy going off the rails. Very few do, especially THIS economy but Biden absolutely doesn't.

You're hearing and will hear a lot of 'the economy was good before covid' from the pubs.

Yeah no shit and Nagasaki was quite lovely in 1944.

How will you (the pubs) fix it? Especially if Dems refuse to pass any of your proposed legislation in the name of political sabotage like the pubs just did?

I mean inflation is almost 12% in Florida. What the f is that clown governor doing!!!!!
It's going to take years for anyone to fix. Just one thing though...it's not a president killing economy. It's a president killing the economy. His policies are directly to blame for the vast majority of the economic issues. He let's the squad and the like minded environmental cult shape and form his policies. Killing the oil industry is a surefire way to make the entire country take a step or 2 down the financial ladder. Just another way to gain more power,and all in the name of "saving the planet". Make more people dependent on the government and its easier to force them to do what you want. Dems did it with minorities in the 60's,70's and 80's,and now they are trying it on the entire country,while using those minorities' hopes of change to get elected. It's a disgraceful group of people.
 
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