Bennett hints at changing his "system"

[IUNorth]

The guy won the NCAA title 3 years ago. He routinely makes NCAA tournaments. He's made an entire career on playing a specific style, and pace.

And yet, he's perceptive enough, seemingly, to see that basketball has changed, and he needs to make sure he's changing with it.

And then there's our guy...quadrupling down on 2010 NBA basketball... Fun.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

The guy won the NCAA title 3 years ago. He routinely makes NCAA tournaments. He's made an entire career on playing a specific style, and pace.

And yet, he's perceptive enough, seemingly, to see that basketball has changed, and he needs to make sure he's changing with it.

And then there's our guy...quadrupling down on 2010 NBA basketball... Fun.

Bo Ryan did the same. Tweaked his system. Not saying they are the same but Ryan had a similar approach.

 

[shooter1977]

IU should make an offer to Bennett. Provide him a basketball GM that will handle NIL/recruiting - so Tony can just coach and lead players. UVA doesn't have the money to keep players around for 3-4 years, and his system needs that. Have heard he's looking for a situation like this.

IU could provide that - and sprinkle in a top 30 recruit here and there. Having seen Bennett transform UVA from a low P5 program to one of the strongest fan bases in the country, he'd have a statue in front of Assembly Hall in 25 years.

 

[Tammany Hall]

Bennet passed on IU during the coaching search that ended in Crean. Things have changed though.

 

[Vern Pain]

Bennet passed on IU during the coaching search that ended in Crean. Things have changed though.

Has he put his sister's dismissal behind him?

 

[Tammany Hall]

Has he put his sister's dismissal behind him?

Ah, right, forgot about that.

 

[IUbball_lifer]

I’ve never been a fan. And after watching VA last night, he wouldn’t be in my top 10. So we would take him under the premise that he is going to effectively change from the only style he has ever known and played for several years? No thanks.
There are plenty of good coaches out there who already play the modern game. I’d take the CO St coach over him.

 

[shooter1977]

I’ve never been a fan. And after watching VA last night, he wouldn’t be in my top 10. So we would take him under the premise that he is going to effectively change from the only style he has ever known and played for several years? No thanks.
There are plenty of good coaches out there who already play the modern game. I’d take the CO St coach over him.

Lifer - I've watched a lot of UVA, you'd LOVE him at IU.

He has a .729 winning percentage at UVA. RMK had a .730 winning percentage at IU. He's had UVA finish in the top 20, 10 of his 15 years there. And from all accounts he's an incredible person.

 

[IUNorth]

Lifer - I've watched a lot of UVA, you'd LOVE him at IU.

He has a .729 winning percentage at UVA. RMK had a .730 winning percentage at IU. He's had UVA finish in the top 20, 10 of his 15 years there. And from all accounts he's an incredible person.

I don't know if I'd like him at IU or not. I AM NOT a fan of the Wisconsin/Virginia style of basketball. The point of my post though wasn't that I want him at IU. The point was that someone that has been as successful as he has been, playing a very, very specific style...that is a huge part of that overall success...is now seeing how tough it is to compete consistently with the skill and athleticism that's taking over the game at all levels, playing their style...so he's going to look in to changing it.

And we have a coach that's literally never been consistently successful, in the NBA or now in college, that is clinging to outdated, long since abandoned NBA principles. It'll be fun to watch Virginia start getting high level portal guards, and get right back to competing for ACC titles and Final Fours, before IU sniffs any similar level of success.

 

[Ty Webb iu]

I’ve never been a fan. And after watching VA last night, he wouldn’t be in my top 10. So we would take him under the premise that he is going to effectively change from the only style he has ever known and played for several years? No thanks.
There are plenty of good coaches out there who already play the modern game. I’d take the CO St coach over him.

Exactly. Bennett makes no sense for IU, imo.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

I don't know if I'd like him at IU or not. I AM NOT a fan of the Wisconsin/Virginia style of basketball. The point of my post though wasn't that I want him at IU. The point was that someone that has been as successful as he has been, playing a very, very specific style...that is a huge part of that overall success...is now seeing how tough it is to compete consistently with the skill and athleticism that's taking over the game at all levels, playing their style...so he's going to look in to changing it.

And we have a coach that's literally never been consistently successful, in the NBA or now in college, that is clinging to outdated, long since abandoned NBA principles. It'll be fun to watch Virginia start getting high level portal guards, and get right back to competing for ACC titles and Final Fours, before IU sniffs any similar level of success.

Wisconsin averaged more this year than they ever have. they weren't the slow plodders they have been in the past. what I watched last night Virginia doesn't have good players. all systems look better if you have talented players who can execute said system.

 

[edub72]

Bennet reached out to Woody for some help😁

 

[CriticArisen]

Bennet turned down an offered raise after he won the championship so contrast his character and honor with what we have.

 

[ulrey]

Exactly. Bennett makes no sense for IU, imo.

I would take Colorado staff before Bennett. Colorado st offensive sets were awesome last night!

 

[GeorgeStrait IU]

The guy won the NCAA title 3 years ago. He routinely makes NCAA tournaments. He's made an entire career on playing a specific style, and pace.

And yet, he's perceptive enough, seemingly, to see that basketball has changed, and he needs to make sure he's changing with it.

And then there's our guy...quadrupling down on 2010 NBA basketball... Fun.

Can Bennett be succesful under todays NiL /style of system? Cojld be a step above Gard and with Painter if he came to IU. Id rather watch TB than Mike Woodson in a heartbeat

 

[IUNorth]

Can Bennett be succesful under todays NiL /style of system? Cojld be a step above Gard and with Painter if he came to IU. Id rather watch TB than Mike Woodson in a heartbeat.

Bennett coaching his current system/style? Probably not.

Bennett's teaching ability...teaching a more modern version of his style? Yes, I'm sure he could. Indiana affords any coach resources that Gard and Painter don't have. Any coach that utilizes them well, has a great chance to pull past those two guys and their programs, possibly in quick order.

I haven't thought much about what could be a modernized version of Virginia/Wisconsin's style. But I will say, Gard saw enough issues with his team last year, to go get a couple guys in the portal that have allowed, encouraged, forced...him to making some adjustments to their style. I would say its been a mixed result thus far, but I do think it'll end up likely raising their ceiling.

 

[frikkenfrakken]

Lifer - I've watched a lot of UVA, you'd LOVE him at IU.

He has a .729 winning percentage at UVA. RMK had a .730 winning percentage at IU. He's had UVA finish in the top 20, 10 of his 15 years there. And from all accounts he's an incredible person.

I think this fanbase and the packline defense are broken up for good. Words were typed, feelings were hurt. Some things can't be unsaid.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

Bo Ryan did the same. Tweaked his system. Not saying they are the same but Ryan had a similar approach.

Another example along the same lines was Beilein hiring a defensive specialist as an asst coach.

I think Woody would have been more successful has he done something similar. On both O/D. He does not appear to be accepting any input from his asst coaches.....if they are giving him any. Looking back on it now, it looks like he was just too arrogant to accept assistance from Matta & Fife. Old dog, new tricks.

 

[IUNorth]

Another example along the same lines was Beilein hiring a defensive specialist as an asst coach.

I think Woody would have been more successful has he done something similar. On both O/D. He does not appear to be accepting any input from his asst coaches.....if they are giving him any. Looking back on it now, it looks like he was just too arrogant to accept assistance from Matta & Fife. Old dog, new tricks.

I think the idea was good with Matta/Fife, but Dolson failed to match the personalities well. Fife and Woody were just way too different...and both too strong of personalities to coexist well. And I don't think Matta really ever was overly involved in the program, and even if he was, would have been too accomplished to effectively act as an advisor, I would think.

I think some sort of very proven, very successful, NAIA/D3 level coach, that is fairly mild mannered, that would embrace the challenge of helping and advising Woody with their own expertise, to help take IU to another level...that's the type of person that would work. Not even sure a young, up and coming D1 level guy would be the right type of guy.

 

[SIhoosier26]

I’ve never been a fan. And after watching VA last night, he wouldn’t be in my top 10. So we would take him under the premise that he is going to effectively change from the only style he has ever known and played for several years? No thanks.
There are plenty of good coaches out there who already play the modern game. I’d take the CO St coach over him.

Dude has won 8 ACC titles, multiple coaches of the year, and a national championship. All if this at Virginia of all places.

Would absolutely love to have him as he's a phenomenal coach.

 

[gator mcCluskey]

Dude has won 8 ACC titles, multiple coaches of the year, and a national championship. All if this at Virginia of all places.

Would absolutely love to have him as he's a phenomenal coach.

I’ve been pining for Bennett since before we hired Crean. Don’t think it’ll ever happen though.

 

[Tammany Hall]

His regular season record so damn good. Amazing results with UNC and Duke constantly being elite challengers. I cannot deny it.

His tournament struggles are odd — I guess the game changes a bit in the tourney. The natty run was the waters parting and they played a lot of easier teams if you look at the seeds: 16, 9, 12, 3, 5, 3. And those last three games were OT, 1 pt win in regulation, OT.

He’s very good. Just a coach I’ve found confusing.

 

[IUNorth]

His regular season record so damn good. Amazing results with UNC and Duke constantly being elite challengers. I cannot deny it.

His tournament struggles are odd — I guess the game changes a bit in the tourney. The natty run was the waters parting and they played a lot of easier teams if you look at the seeds: 16, 9, 12, 3, 5, 3. And those last three games were OT, 1 pt win in regulation, OT.

He’s very good. Just a coach I’ve found confusing.

The system he chose to coach years ago was much more effective then, than it is now. Way, way, way too many skilled and athletic players, at all levels, to run things like he does to limit possessions to the extent that he does. It closes the talent gaps, and lowers your margin for error. So his teams will beat some teams they maybe shouldn’t. But they’ll lose to teams they shouldn’t as well.

It’s a recipe for decent season long success. Not a recipe for winning 4-6 games in a row in March.

 

[Al Bino]

The system he chose to coach years ago was much more effective then, than it is now. Way, way, way too many skilled and athletic players, at all levels, to run things like he does to limit possessions to the extent that he does. It closes the talent gaps, and lowers your margin for error. So his teams will beat some teams they maybe shouldn’t. But they’ll lose to teams they shouldn’t as well.

It’s a recipe for decent season long success. Not a recipe for winning 4-6 games in a row in March.

At least he is playing in March!

 

[4IUSox2]

Granted the game and talent has changed since Bennett rose to success first at Wazzu, then at UVA, but his ability to teach the game, coach up his players/team and have them regularly overachieve against the likes of Duke and UNC has been impressive. Would be nice to see a coach at IU who could exceed collectively, the sum of its parts, which for most of his time at UVA and WSU, has been the case. It’s been way too long here at IU.

 

[IUHoopster]

IU should make an offer to Bennett. Provide him a basketball GM that will handle NIL/recruiting - so Tony can just coach and lead players. UVA doesn't have the money to keep players around for 3-4 years, and his system needs that. Have heard he's looking for a situation like this.

IU could provide that - and sprinkle in a top 30 recruit here and there. Having seen Bennett transform UVA from a low P5 program to one of the strongest fan bases in the country, he'd have a statue in front of Assembly Hall in 25 years.

Didn't Bennet's sister get canned from IUWBB? I don't think he is coming nor do I think I could stay awake during his games.

 

[Harpo Marxist]

Another example along the same lines was Beilein hiring a defensive specialist as an asst coach.

I think Woody would have been more successful has he done something similar. On both O/D. He does not appear to be accepting any input from his asst coaches.....if they are giving him any. Looking back on it now, it looks like he was just too arrogant to accept assistance from Matta & Fife. Old dog, new tricks.

Yep.....Woody's right.....no matter how many games he loses. When you're right...you're right. Am I right?

 

[ButHerEmails]

Ah, right, forgot about that.

You’d think that anyone who had anything to do with that is long gone by now. Although RMK refused to come back for the fans for a loooooong time even after Myles Brand was dead. Some people stay sore for a while.

 

[ButHerEmails]

Didn't Bennet's sister get canned from IUWBB? I don't think he is coming nor do I think I could stay awake during his games.

I can’t stay awake for them now, but it would be nice to wake up and find out we won.

 

[Harpo Marxist]

You’d think that anyone who had anything to do with that is long gone by now. Although RMK refused to come back for the fans for a loooooong time even after Myles Brand was dead. Some people stay sore for a while.

Had nothing to do with the fans.....IU not only fired Knight....but up to and including his death and since...has not formally recognized his contribution to IU sports. Knight shared his feelings about the fans the day he was fired...and he spoke to thousands. I think he did IU a favor by coming back at all. The debt of gratitude hasn't been paid. IU can put Simons' name on a building...but not the guy who made it famous.

 

[CriticArisen]

I can’t stay awake for them now, but it would be nice to wake up and find out we won.

If we won it means you are still sleeping. It will get worse when you actually wake up.

 

[ButHerEmails]

Had nothing to do with the fans.....IU not only fired Knight....but up to and including his death and since...has not formally recognized his contribution to IU sports. Knight shared his feelings about the fans the day he was fired...and he spoke to thousands. I think he did IU a favor by coming back at all. The debt of gratitude hasn't been paid. IU can put Simons' name on a building...but not the guy who made it famous.

Oh I know he talked to the fans. I was standing in Dunn Meadow for his speech.

 

[ams66]

Had nothing to do with the fans.....IU not only fired Knight....but up to and including his death and since...has not formally recognized his contribution to IU sports. Knight shared his feelings about the fans the day he was fired...and he spoke to thousands. I think he did IU a favor by coming back at all. The debt of gratitude hasn't been paid. IU can put Simons' name on a building...but not the guy who made it famous.

I’m not defending IU admin here but they do have a policy about not naming buildings or significant memorials until a person has been dead 10 years I think.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

You’d think that anyone who had anything to do with that is long gone by now. Although RMK refused to come back for the fans for a loooooong time even after Myles Brand was dead. Some people stay sore for a while.

You’d think that anyone who had anything to do with that is long gone by now. Although RMK refused to come back for the fans for a loooooong time even after Myles Brand was dead. Some people stay sore for a while.

Well, Scott Dolson was here when Kathi was here. Not saying he did or did not have anything to do with her being fired, but he was a major figure in the department even back then.

 

[hookyIU1990]

You’d think that anyone who had anything to do with that is long gone by now. Although RMK refused to come back for the fans for a loooooong time even after Myles Brand was dead. Some people stay sore for a while.

Tony Bennett probably remembers that IU canned her. That's the most important thing to consider, not whether the people who canned her are there or not.

I know I'd side with family before a job, but maybe that's not as common as I believe it to be.