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Beard and Ole Miss about to beat Alabama at Bama

One key role Pam and the BoT has in this process is considering reputation and headline risk for the university. There are many good coaches out there, Beard’s baggage isn’t worth it. Every article on the new IU hire would talk about the DV allegations. And there are stories beyond the DV stuff that isn’t good either. He isn’t the right candidate.
Please share the other stories. I think Beard is a terrific candidate, but I've always said you have to vet him obviously and see if there's anything else. If it's that one incident, I think that could be accepted if you talk to him and he convinces you he's addressed it personally. If he's had other DV issues, there will be a trail and I think that would disqualify him.
 
Please share the other stories. I think Beard is a terrific candidate, but I've always said you have to vet him obviously and see if there's anything else. If it's that one incident, I think that could be accepted if you talk to him and he convinces you he's addressed it personally. If he's had other DV issues, there will be a trail and I think that would disqualify him.
I believe the other issues are being a drunk a la Kevin Wilson. Being a drunk and having a DV background aren't a good mixture. I may be wrong that those are the other rumored issues though.
 
Seems to me they are trying to be Carmel but without the median income level and tax base to support it.

Living in Georgia I’m overly familiar with the city/college town versus rural dichotomy. Atlanta/Athens/Savannah/Augusta could not be more different than the rest of the state….especially Atlanta and Athens.
 
Living in Georgia I’m overly familiar with the city/college town versus rural dichotomy. Atlanta/Athens/Savannah/Augusta could not be more different than the rest of the state….especially Atlanta and Athens.
Hard to beat the difference in the Raleigh/Durham (Research Triangle) area vs the rest of the state. Probably the Medical Center of Houston vs the rest of the state?
 
I don’t think there is any way President Whitten allows Beard to be hired. She already faced a no confidence vote - the optics and backlash she would face from faculty wouldn’t fly. It doesn’t matter if he committed the assault or not. JMO
 
If it's inevitable lay there and enjoy it. This from a previous IU coach that was an acceptable quote to the rabid fan base.
 
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Any fanbase that wants to hire Beard must ask themselves if they want an abuser as their HC. This article summed it up well when Arkansas was looking for a Musselman replacement: Got off of the charges on a technicality over the way he choked her
I have no doubt that there was some sort of physical altercation, but I don't think anyone who wasn't there will ever know what happened. If he is an alcoholic with a violent temper or history of being an abuser, there will be a lot more than 1 incident, and they will be easy to uncover. If it all comes back to this 1 night, where no criminal charges were pressed and you investigate it and interview him about it and are satisfied with the answers you get, I would have no problem if they would hire him. I think what that writer says about being choked with a forearm vs hands is a bunch of BS unless he talked to the officers/DA involved or has a whole lot more knowledge about domestic assaults than one would assume of a sportswriter.
 
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I think what that writer says about being choked with a forearm vs hands is a bunch of BS unless he talked to the officers/DA involved or has a whole lot more knowledge about domestic assaults than one would assume of a sportswriter.
Why do you think it's BS? There was no physical evidence based on the way it happened. If there had been physical evidence, it wouldn't have mattered that she changed her tune. Author didn't provide any opinion in the whole piece, it didn't seem to me.
 
Why do you think it's BS? There was no physical evidence based on the way it happened. If there had been physical evidence, it wouldn't have mattered that she changed her tune. Author didn't provide any opinion in the whole piece, it didn't seem to me.
Saying because he used a forearm it wouldn't leave marks vs using your hands and that's why he got off. If they were in a drunken knock down drag out, there would be plenty of physical evidence, I believe. But that's my opinion too. Personally, from the comments I've seen I think she was at least partially responsible for the altercation and as I said, if this is the only episode and you investigate it and are satisfied with what you hear from him, I see no problem with hiring him. As I've also said, if he's an alcoholic, has a violent temper and history of domestic abuse, there will be a lot of evidence to that and then I think he shouldn't be considered.
 
Saying because he used a forearm it wouldn't leave marks vs using your hands and that's why he got off. If they were in a drunken knock down drag out, there would be plenty of physical evidence, I believe. But that's my opinion too. Personally, from the comments I've seen I think she was at least partially responsible for the altercation and as I said, if this is the only episode and you investigate it and are satisfied with what you hear from him, I see no problem with hiring him. As I've also said, if he's an alcoholic, has a violent temper and history of domestic abuse, there will be a lot of evidence to that and then I think he shouldn't be considered.
I don't think you read it very closely if you didn't catch that the whole reason it was dropped was because they couldn't prove strangulation. There was no doubt or denial of the physical altercation. The strangulation part was what drove it to a felony and without her testimony that it happened, they would be reliant on physical evidence, which they didn't have based on the way that he did it.
 
Why do you think it's BS? There was no physical evidence based on the way it happened. If there had been physical evidence, it wouldn't have mattered that she changed her tune. Author didn't provide any opinion in the whole piece, it didn't seem to me.

Nah, they dismiss misdemeanor domestic assaults all the time with solid evidence.
 
I don’t think there is any way President Whitten allows Beard to be hired. She already faced a no confidence vote - the optics and backlash she would face from faculty wouldn’t fly. It doesn’t matter if he committed the assault or not. JMO
Losing Whitten would be asking for Cignetti to leave too. She and her support has been a big factor for him.
 
He's the guy. If he can win at Ole Miss, he can win at IU. Let's ****ing making this happen!
He's not as clean as Stevens but this would be the next guy on the list as far as coaching ability. He has been amazing at getting the most out of his guys. He's also a former Bob Knight assistant.

A funny thought...would the average IU fan be willing to hire a 50 yr old Bob Knight? Many would say his conduct would rule him out. For arguments sake, I think Chris Beard is worth it if he is open to coming to IU.
 
He's not as clean as Stevens but this would be the next guy on the list as far as coaching ability. He has been amazing at getting the most out of his guys. He's also a former Bob Knight assistant.

A funny thought...would the average IU fan be willing to hire a 50 yr old Bob Knight? Many would say his conduct would rule him out. For arguments sake, I think Chris Beard is worth it if he is open to coming to IU.
I spent a lot of time in the inside at TTU… ( riding my Dads coat tails ) Team buses, team hotels, pre game meals and defensive walk through etc. Beard was a work horse and soaked up a lot of what RMK had to offer. He is young, energetic and demands performance. Good in game coach and would not shrink under the limelight and pressure of IU job. Dolson should be on the phone with Pat Knight to get a feel for where Beard’s mind is in relation to the Indiana job. He would win really big at Indiana.
 
I spent a lot of time in the inside at TTU… ( riding my Dads coat tails ) Team buses, team hotels, pre game meals and defensive walk through etc. Beard was a work horse and soaked up a lot of what RMK had to offer. He is young, energetic and demands performance. Good in game coach and would not shrink under the limelight and pressure of IU job. Dolson should be on the phone with Pat Knight to get a feel for where Beard’s mind is in relation to the Indiana job. He would win really big at Indiana.
Agreed 100%
 
About that moral compass... The country just elected a convicted felon without any sense of morality by a landslide. Most acknowledge his reprehensible character, but yet they thought he was the man to lead our country.

Would bet that many of those taking the high ground on Beard probably voted for our next president. But, I understand that the IU coaching job is probably more important, so I'm sure we need to uphold our standards.
This guy watches the The View every morning! 🤣
 
You don't know crap. He was not even married. Texas made a mistake in firing him. Hopefully IU hires him. Maybe he will add Gregg Marshall as an assistant.
When did knowing anything become a prerequisite for posting on these boards?
 
This guy watches the The View every morning! 🤣
Good one. I detest The View. That show illustrates the kind of crap that has taken the dems down the road of wokeness and away from the average Joe. Now, let's not forget the other side. Fox News is the Republican equivilant.

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.......
 
Good one. I detest The View. That show illustrates the kind of crap that has taken the dems down the road of wokeness and away from the average Joe. Now, let's not forget the other side. Fox News is the Republican equivilant.

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.......
You are a Smerconish listener
 
He's not as clean as Stevens but this would be the next guy on the list as far as coaching ability. He has been amazing at getting the most out of his guys. He's also a former Bob Knight assistant.

A funny thought...would the average IU fan be willing to hire a 50 yr old Bob Knight? Many would say his conduct would rule him out. For arguments sake, I think Chris Beard is worth it if he is open to coming to IU.
Bob Knight 20 years ago is a lot different in this day and age. I don’t think anyone would hire a 50 year old Bob Knight now.
 
Some of these attitudes are what gave the Salem Witch Trials a bad name. Not there but by gum I know there was evil in the air.

You can’t completely eliminate performance risk in naming a new coach and the less there is on the resume the higher the risk. Archie Miller is a good example of an up and comer that came and went.
 
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