Because there aren’t enough of them that want to work, especially night construction
Baltimore bridge collapse
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Because there aren’t enough of them that want to work, especially night construction
Nobody wants to work. How do you thread that needle. Paying job or no job. One you can survive on the other you cannot.
Ending welfare would be a start, but drugs, etc give alternate income generation (see The Wire).
eh - most welfare recipients work but qualify for assistance because it's not enough. See Walmart.
Mr. Balls, you're telling us you watched The Wire and your conclusion is that the people portrayed within just don't want to work? It wasn't that the fake war on drugs had so altered them and their families to the point where they couldn't function in "normal" society? hell, even the cops are dysfunctional in that regard and are portrayed as such.
you must have the director's cut box set. lol. send it over!
Your take was that, if there wasn't a "fake" war on drugs, they would be hard-working citizens? You cannot be serious.
My conclusion is that Marlo Stanfield dealt with his opposition with too much of a heavy hand. Ultimately it ended him up in prison.
I thought Stringer Bell was the most prudent of all the the leaders, but he ended up dead.
So in conclusion, that are no guarantees on the streets. The game is the game.
yes, that is seriously what the series is about. Creators wanted to show how the fake war on drugs and the rotting out of city institutions was effecting the lives of people who work and live in west Baltimore. That's why they focused each season on an institution after the first. .
the illegal drug trade
the port system
the city government and bureaucracy
education and schools
and the print news medium
dude, you seriously thought it was a show about lazy people? that is awesome.
man, I don't agree with you often but I seriously admire your consistency. keep it simple: poor people are lazy and muslims are murderers. hard stop
yes, that is seriously what the series is about. Creators wanted to show how the fake war on drugs and the rotting out of city institutions was effecting the lives of people who work and live in west Baltimore. That's why they focused each season on an institution after the first. .
the illegal drug trade
the port system
the city government and bureaucracy
education and schools
and the print news medium
dude, you seriously thought it was a show about lazy people? that is awesome.
man, I don't agree with you often but I seriously admire your consistency. keep it simple: poor people are lazy and muslims are murderers. hard stop
I'll give you credit, you certainly like to twist your panties into a bunch for no reason. I didn't suggest the show was about anything other than what it is - the decay of a one great urban metro for various reasons. Saying the drug addicts and dealers are too lazy to do hard work, like construction, doesn't change the fact that the show is about their influence on societal demise.
That was exactly my point that Spartan seems to be taking issue with.
You are saying they are terrible jobs that the citizens will not do.
So let’s throw the noncitizens out there and make them do it.
I’m sure there are people in that county that are drawing unemployment…let’s have them do the work
Zeke is right here. These are not jobs that citizens want. Hard labor, in shitty conditions (hot, cold, rain, snow, etc.) is difficult enough, but to find night shift is nearly impossible anywhere. Many manufacturers would love to have a larger 2nd or 3rd shift, but cannot find people willing to work those hours.
Worker shortages and smaller families are why illegals have long (decades) been utilized to do farming across the country.
There is an inherent subset of people in this country who are unwilling to work in difficult circumstances (think roofers, window cleaners, etc.) and/or physically incapable (you can't pull any person to be in construction usually).
My father worked 3rd shift in an underground coal mine until he retired at 67.
I’m sure he didn’t want to go to work…what the hell is the other option?
Live on the street?
Baltimore is heavily populated…shouldn’t be a problem to find citizens to do the work
Times are different. Cultures are different. Context matters.
We will just have to disagree. If the noncitizens weren’t here they would be able to hire a citizen to do the work.
Where have you been in the last couple years? Tons of places are understaffed and not able to find workers. Restaurants, construction, all kinds of service industry, let alone tough working conditions.
Are we making the non citizens do it? Do you have a plan to MAKE citizens take those jobs?
How do you pay your bills without an income?
Unless you are saying that the county is fully employed.
At what price? Unemployment is still incredibly low. You aren't going to hire someone from the ghetto in Baltimore or drug-riddled Hagerstown to do the work. I'm not "for" illegal immigration, certainly the way it is, but the immigration system in this country is a huge mess.
Don’t know I have a job and pay my bills. Unemployment is at record low, but I don’t know where you’ve been if you haven’t read about the problem finding employees, especially for tough jobs the past couple years. Also people are making money at all kinds of untraditional things now, gaming, influencers, etc. Lots of people figured out other ways to make money during Covid.
Work was kind of slow last week so I did a little extra door dash and in like 22 hours, I made an extra $450+.
Obviously, I don’t know the employer. State, city, county, contractor? I also don’t know the pay scale. If they are setting the pay rate too low knowing all they will get is noncitizens…then I see that as a bug not a feature.
Covid changed a lot of us…myself included. I look at things a lot differently than I did before Covid hit.
I now support some healthcare spending, some entitlement spending, some safety net. I was for the most part a hard no on those things
Obviously not one person here has ever worked for a municipality or state highway. Hard labor..... effing priceless. Hard labor went out the window decades ago. Harder than welfare, check! Harder than selling crack, check. Harder than being a sorority house mom..... ummm... check.
the shovel has been replaced with a mini excavator. The jack hammer has been replaced by a mini excavator with a jack hammer attached to it. Shovels exist to lean on, in 95% of the job. Coffee breaks are 45 min long in many times and much of the work day is driving around looking for potential projects that need planned out.
NOT to diminish these poor souls that perished, but 2 so far was setting in their truck. I did it myself when I actually work on the street department. I mean them ZERO ill will and pray for their families.
Much of the times, the dirtiest they one gets on a daily bases is washing or greasing the equipment, or dump cold covfefe on their uniform.
Again, nothing but respect for these guys. But lets not fool ourselves with all of this BS talk from progressive cooler swill that wants to make these jobs out to be the 13 yr old India kids barefoot in a steel mill.
Usually that type of construction is low bid work done by private contractors.
Which are very much of the time union laborers and operators. Laborers make between $20 and $36/ hr. Operators slightly more and they don't even grease or clean their own equipment. I've got 2 SON in law's that do this, and multiple friends/ sons/ daughters of friends that do it. Is it desk duty with your socks off, no. Is it the naked women in el salvador cutting coke... most of the time, also no. My #1 SIL was on the union carpenter crew for Kroger, Making $32/ hour, working 3rd shift. Hardest thing he did was assemble shelves or displays that are pre engineered, put slot A into tab B, just like the old Mad MAgazine.
Singaporean firm whose ship took down the Baltimore bridge just cited an 1851 maritime law to cap liability at $44 million
The companies' “limitation of liability” petition is a routine procedure for cases litigated under U.S. maritime law.
It appears they are investigating if the ship had problems long before it entered the channel. That would be some sort of reckless endangerment or whatever lawyers call it, not a terrorist attack.
Criminal Investigation
www.nbcnews.com
FBI opens criminal probe into Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse in Baltimore
Federal agents boarded the 985-foot Dali early Monday with search warrants.
www.nbcnews.com
Keep it up, Marv, and we’ll be extending you an invitation to attend CoH School of Law in the fall.
Does one only have to half the assigned reading there? That's my MO.
Get used to having your questions answered with a question.
I just read there are still 21 people on the Baltimore barge. Fing miserableIn the comments
