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The AD schedules Cincy, Louisville, we lose, and its "why are we scheduling losses?"
The AD schedules FIU, Charlotte, and you complain about the attendance.
The AD schedules FIU, Charlotte, and you complain about the attendance.
Cig started it.
Although I don't see him thinking we're scheduling losses no matter who it is.
Beer selection still sucks. I'm a beer snob and love IPA's, but only having a malty 16 oz. Dragonfly on a 90 degree day is not enjoyable. Have some sessions like Campside, Lil Dragonfly. And sell 12 oz cans. The beer gets warm too quickly.
Attendance has sparked at least a couple threads of discussion per year going back to the advent of internet message boards (the Bruce Strom days). I used to participate and get all worked up the topic, but I don't anymore because I've come to the following conclusions:
1. To get any real change to fan behavior, the program must win some significant games first. This fan base is just too jaded (and maybe rightfully so) to think we will get folks to show (and stay) without tangible proof that things are different.
2. Even with significant wins, we still may never get to the point where we are selling out the Rock consistently. Culture doesn't change overnight, and I'm not even sure there is a desire to develop a football-obsessed culture in Bloomington.
With that said, I don't believe attendance is as important as it once was. Recruits are much more concerned with how much money they will get paid than how many fans are in the stands these days.
1. To get any real change to fan behavior, the program must win some significant games first. This fan base is just too jaded (and maybe rightfully so) to think we will get folks to show (and stay) without tangible proof that things are different.
2. Even with significant wins, we still may never get to the point where we are selling out the Rock consistently. Culture doesn't change overnight, and I'm not even sure there is a desire to develop a football-obsessed culture in Bloomington.
With that said, I don't believe attendance is as important as it once was. Recruits are much more concerned with how much money they will get paid than how many fans are in the stands these days.
Everyone should encourage others to get tickets to the Maryland game. It’s gonna be gorgeous football weather. Conference opponent at home with a chance to start 5-0.
We need it to be packed and rockin for all 4 quarters.
If folks are waiting for a CFP bid before shelling out $50, they’re just being silly.
It really was. You can say it’s an excuse but my clothes were absolutely soaked. I was drinking water all game and I still felt bad. If it’s that hot, I need to be in a pool!
Great weather.
I’d rather sit in that than a blizzard or torrential downpour.
Put on some sunscreen and enjoy a 3.5 free tanning session.
I was very pleased with the results. My very nice base tan turned it up a notch.
We got a passout, came back and stayed until the end. While we were heading out to get our tickets scanned for a passout, a big crowd walked on out. I didn't see another person scan their ticket around us. As we were heading back in, our tailgating neighbor seemed shocked we were going back in.
My thought on tailgating is it is fun and I look forward seeing our friends every Saturday, But I can sit outside and listen to the game while sipping on a drink and eating meat du jour at home. Why would I drive to the game and not go in? We had some younger adults sit by us that came in the middle of the second quarter and didn't return. Pu$$ies! They said it was too hot.
The first half was hot. There was cloud cover and a breeze in the second half. It was a good move to allow water bottles to be brought in and refilling stations.
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My thought on tailgating is it is fun and I look forward seeing our friends every Saturday, But I can sit outside and listen to the game while sipping on a drink and eating meat du jour at home. Why would I drive to the game and not go in? We had some younger adults sit by us that came in the middle of the second quarter and didn't return. Pu$$ies! They said it was too hot.
The first half was hot. There was cloud cover and a breeze in the second half. It was a good move to allow water bottles to be brought in and refilling stations.
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A lot can change in a week but rainfall projections are small amounts right now.
I've said it recently and I'll say it again, any fanbase that chooses bball over football in the pecking order, is hard for me to take seriously. I've felt this way since I was a kid and actually liked IU bball! It has never made any sense...
Such fanbases need to check their manhood, that's the truth. I'm glad I'm an outlier!!
Such fanbases need to check their manhood, that's the truth. I'm glad I'm an outlier!!
That’s true lol.
I will say IU is looking good and may have found the right coach. Could be a case of establishing staying power but I have never liked the scheduling model
”the Rock” is a stupid name sounds forced. Whats wrong with Indiana University Memorial Stadium or IUMS, if you are in to that whole brevity thing?
Forecasts can vary. But I use accu-weather & my iPhone app
The National Weather Service has a Forecast of a 20% possibility of rain with a high temperature on Saturday in Bloomington of 76...
Their high temps don't usually occur before 4pm which means it could be as low as 70 at Kickoff...
Sounds like good Football Weather to me...
Weighing in on attendance and game experience yesterday.
Double IU grad, played some frosh ball. 75ish years old, enough to remember both "rose bowl" games now.
Die hard IU football and basketball (and soccer and volleyball and base/softball) all of which are decent and (if soccer steps up again like I think they will again this season) ... all on the rise.
Live 5 hours away in O$U central (hate 'em).
Bought 2 tickets weeks ahead, $120. Bought parking ahead, and ticket office was less than helpful, have mobility issues, "best available" was in Forest green lot, $35 + another $10. Answer to "Is there handicap drop off?" was "I don't think so." Contacted about seat backs, again less than helpful "must pick them up inside stadium and can't reserve" and "not sure where in the stadium that's at." Hotel $170. And then, the traffic (which is the same for 50+ years) sucks and both city & university incapable/unwilling (or?) to fix it. $450+. And, yes, hotter than hades, with no tailgate to resort to. Great win, but the experience wasn't pretty. Well, pretty embarrassing IMO on the university's part ... have a good team on the field and chaos from start to finish. I don't want to think what three times the attendance will look like!
Love the direction fb is going, but was one of the worst fan/ticket/parking experiences I've seen (and I've seen a lot of Universities/arenas).
Oh, you "don't have to get off my lawn."
Double IU grad, played some frosh ball. 75ish years old, enough to remember both "rose bowl" games now.
Die hard IU football and basketball (and soccer and volleyball and base/softball) all of which are decent and (if soccer steps up again like I think they will again this season) ... all on the rise.
Live 5 hours away in O$U central (hate 'em).
Bought 2 tickets weeks ahead, $120. Bought parking ahead, and ticket office was less than helpful, have mobility issues, "best available" was in Forest green lot, $35 + another $10. Answer to "Is there handicap drop off?" was "I don't think so." Contacted about seat backs, again less than helpful "must pick them up inside stadium and can't reserve" and "not sure where in the stadium that's at." Hotel $170. And then, the traffic (which is the same for 50+ years) sucks and both city & university incapable/unwilling (or?) to fix it. $450+. And, yes, hotter than hades, with no tailgate to resort to. Great win, but the experience wasn't pretty. Well, pretty embarrassing IMO on the university's part ... have a good team on the field and chaos from start to finish. I don't want to think what three times the attendance will look like!
Love the direction fb is going, but was one of the worst fan/ticket/parking experiences I've seen (and I've seen a lot of Universities/arenas).
Oh, you "don't have to get off my lawn."
I would b calling iu first thing Monday and may start with call to AD office asking for who is the head of those situations u spoke of. They want fb success and all of that is another peg in the hole to fix towards reaching that goal. No excuse for not fixing traffic to all the help u were asking forWeighing in on attendance and game experience yesterday.
Double IU grad, played some frosh ball. 75ish years old, enough to remember both "rose bowl" games now.
Die hard IU football and basketball (and soccer and volleyball and base/softball) all of which are decent and (if soccer steps up again like I think they will again this season) ... all on the rise.
Live 5 hours away in O$U central (hate 'em).
Bought 2 tickets weeks ahead, $120. Bought parking ahead, and ticket office was less than helpful, have mobility issues, "best available" was in Forest green lot, $35 + another $10. Answer to "Is there handicap drop off?" was "I don't think so." Contacted about seat backs, again less than helpful "must pick them up inside stadium and can't reserve" and "not sure where in the stadium that's at." Hotel $170. And then, the traffic (which is the same for 50+ years) sucks and both city & university incapable/unwilling (or?) to fix it. $450+. And, yes, hotter than hades, with no tailgate to resort to. Great win, but the experience wasn't pretty. Well, pretty embarrassing IMO on the university's part ... have a good team on the field and chaos from start to finish. I don't want to think what three times the attendance will look like!
Love the direction fb is going, but was one of the worst fan/ticket/parking experiences I've seen (and I've seen a lot of Universities/arenas).
Oh, you "don't have to get off my lawn."
Disappointing to read. If it happened to you it probably did to many others. Very fixable but someone at IU has to care.Weighing in on attendance and game experience yesterday.
Double IU grad, played some frosh ball. 75ish years old, enough to remember both "rose bowl" games now.
Die hard IU football and basketball (and soccer and volleyball and base/softball) all of which are decent and (if soccer steps up again like I think they will again this season) ... all on the rise.
Live 5 hours away in O$U central (hate 'em).
Bought 2 tickets weeks ahead, $120. Bought parking ahead, and ticket office was less than helpful, have mobility issues, "best available" was in Forest green lot, $35 + another $10. Answer to "Is there handicap drop off?" was "I don't think so." Contacted about seat backs, again less than helpful "must pick them up inside stadium and can't reserve" and "not sure where in the stadium that's at." Hotel $170. And then, the traffic (which is the same for 50+ years) sucks and both city & university incapable/unwilling (or?) to fix it. $450+. And, yes, hotter than hades, with no tailgate to resort to. Great win, but the experience wasn't pretty. Well, pretty embarrassing IMO on the university's part ... have a good team on the field and chaos from start to finish. I don't want to think what three times the attendance will look like!
Love the direction fb is going, but was one of the worst fan/ticket/parking experiences I've seen (and I've seen a lot of Universities/arenas).
Oh, you "don't have to get off my lawn."
You cannot expect Mayberry to be like Raleigh. It takes at least 100 years to make progress. We just got an honest to goodness interstate going through town now.Weighing in on attendance and game experience yesterday.
Double IU grad, played some frosh ball. 75ish years old, enough to remember both "rose bowl" games now.
Die hard IU football and basketball (and soccer and volleyball and base/softball) all of which are decent and (if soccer steps up again like I think they will again this season) ... all on the rise.
Live 5 hours away in O$U central (hate 'em).
Bought 2 tickets weeks ahead, $120. Bought parking ahead, and ticket office was less than helpful, have mobility issues, "best available" was in Forest green lot, $35 + another $10. Answer to "Is there handicap drop off?" was "I don't think so." Contacted about seat backs, again less than helpful "must pick them up inside stadium and can't reserve" and "not sure where in the stadium that's at." Hotel $170. And then, the traffic (which is the same for 50+ years) sucks and both city & university incapable/unwilling (or?) to fix it. $450+. And, yes, hotter than hades, with no tailgate to resort to. Great win, but the experience wasn't pretty. Well, pretty embarrassing IMO on the university's part ... have a good team on the field and chaos from start to finish. I don't want to think what three times the attendance will look like!
Love the direction fb is going, but was one of the worst fan/ticket/parking experiences I've seen (and I've seen a lot of Universities/arenas).
Oh, you "don't have to get off my lawn."
No thanks to the hardcore tree-huggers there who would have preferred the entire county be declared a 10-speed bike only zone. Big cities that are used to hosting big events don’t bat an eye at stuff like this. This is a big complex logistics coordination for a hamlet like Bloomington. They are all learning what being in a P4 conference means. The days of hanging out in one of the two premier conferences in the entire nation but conducting yourself like Indiana State are over.
Weather won't be an excuse next week. The Rock will be damn near sold out.
Hopefully the AD and the president, who apparently believes the school is "all in" on football, sees this shit and demands it gets fixed.Weighing in on attendance and game experience yesterday.
Double IU grad, played some frosh ball. 75ish years old, enough to remember both "rose bowl" games now.
Die hard IU football and basketball (and soccer and volleyball and base/softball) all of which are decent and (if soccer steps up again like I think they will again this season) ... all on the rise.
Live 5 hours away in O$U central (hate 'em).
Bought 2 tickets weeks ahead, $120. Bought parking ahead, and ticket office was less than helpful, have mobility issues, "best available" was in Forest green lot, $35 + another $10. Answer to "Is there handicap drop off?" was "I don't think so." Contacted about seat backs, again less than helpful "must pick them up inside stadium and can't reserve" and "not sure where in the stadium that's at." Hotel $170. And then, the traffic (which is the same for 50+ years) sucks and both city & university incapable/unwilling (or?) to fix it. $450+. And, yes, hotter than hades, with no tailgate to resort to. Great win, but the experience wasn't pretty. Well, pretty embarrassing IMO on the university's part ... have a good team on the field and chaos from start to finish. I don't want to think what three times the attendance will look like!
Love the direction fb is going, but was one of the worst fan/ticket/parking experiences I've seen (and I've seen a lot of Universities/arenas).
Oh, you "don't have to get off my lawn."
It will be nowhere close to being sold out. No way. . And, now there is a chance of light sprinkles in the area on Saturday , the little Strawberry Shortcake student section will fear they will dissolve once they step outside.
IU is like the WNBA- incompetently run organizations totally unprepared to handle success.
Everyone likes to look at the decision point in a vacuum. The reason teams like Nebraska can fill the stadium every week including the weak teams is those tickets are the only ones available. Once Indiana starts filling the stadium for “big games” more people will go to the non-conference “cupcakes” since these will be the only tickets available and affordable.
It all goes together…..
It all goes together…..
I was also disappointed by the crowd but the headwinds against this program are hard to overcome. Coach Cig will though. He is the rocket ship that Hep foretold about.
This weekend might be 2 top 25 teams. It better be a sell out(or at least close. . Season ticket holders and students who don't show up this weekend should lose their tickets for the rest of the season.
bought 6 tix for my group today on stubhub and the screen said 'high demand'.
IU ticket office says 'almost gone'
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Not me.
The Cincy game was the best non-B10 atmosphere we've had since the Bourbon Barrel days...and it was right after we pissed ourselves at Iowa.
Bring in a solid opponent, and the crowd will show...especially now.
Had we come back home after beating UCLA and hosted just a (let's say) WVA...or Pitt...place would have been packed.
You mean the rocket scientists who scheduled the Fever’s first round playoff game at 3:00 pm on an NFL Sunday? Those geniuses?
Who are you to take away seats? I'm 86 years old, two degrees from IU, season tickets to football, basketball, and ladies basketball. I live 3 1/2 hours away. Because I had pneumonia this weekend and didn't attend the game you are going to take my seats? Next week guests coming from Texas - they did not ask me if we had a weekend game. Such narrow mindedness! Night games get me hone at @3 A.M. 3:30 games get me home after 10. Such mindlessness.
I apologize. I was joking. Of course that would never happen. And of course shit comes up. I'm just hoping for a full house next week.
Well, the good thing is our final 5 home games include four legitimate national football programs, who have all won National Titles...
And Purdue.
And Purdue.
While I’m not convinced in general that a weak OOC schedule at a school like IU will result in a SUSTAINABLE winning program, I could live with a “mixed” OOC schedule that had, say, 2 lesser opponents and 1 more “legit” opponent from a Big 12 or even SEC school. That kind of arrangement would IMO probably do more to help attendance and get IU ready for Big 10 competition than facing a lineup like FIU, WIU and Charlotte does.
I do remember that good Cinci crowd. Some of their fans, but a strong IU turnout.
Makes me think it's not just the strength or name of the team, but regional rivalries matter too. People want to beat Cincinatti, they want to beat Kentucky, Louisville. Maybe Mizzou. I enjoy when one or two of those teams are on the schedule. Now if Cig is going to recruit Chicago hard maybe a team like Northern Illinois falls in there.
Makes me think it's not just the strength or name of the team, but regional rivalries matter too. People want to beat Cincinatti, they want to beat Kentucky, Louisville. Maybe Mizzou. I enjoy when one or two of those teams are on the schedule. Now if Cig is going to recruit Chicago hard maybe a team like Northern Illinois falls in there.
Hoping for a good turnout Saturday. I am curious to see the Homecoming crowd, as Nebraska really showed up in force the last time they were here. I was a little surprised to see that was the HC game. Great to believe we can win for sure but I will be disappointed if the crowd has alot of audible support for the visitors.
Idaho, the week after the Iowa debacle and the week before cincy was darn near filled. Was a beautiful night and sight. Unfortunately, the season was an absolute disaster and let down after expectations were so high.
Meanwhile, this team has brought me in and MD will be my 3rd game already. Looking to make another 2-3 the rest of the year and the bowl game.
Meanwhile, this team has brought me in and MD will be my 3rd game already. Looking to make another 2-3 the rest of the year and the bowl game.
I’ve never understood why we can’t do better at traffic. Any why do they close off the Walnut/College exit? They do have handicap drop off. Whomever you spoke with wasn’t very knowledgable. And you can flag down the golf carts, that are there for that purpose.Weighing in on attendance and game experience yesterday.
Double IU grad, played some frosh ball. 75ish years old, enough to remember both "rose bowl" games now.
Die hard IU football and basketball (and soccer and volleyball and base/softball) all of which are decent and (if soccer steps up again like I think they will again this season) ... all on the rise.
Live 5 hours away in O$U central (hate 'em).
Bought 2 tickets weeks ahead, $120. Bought parking ahead, and ticket office was less than helpful, have mobility issues, "best available" was in Forest green lot, $35 + another $10. Answer to "Is there handicap drop off?" was "I don't think so." Contacted about seat backs, again less than helpful "must pick them up inside stadium and can't reserve" and "not sure where in the stadium that's at." Hotel $170. And then, the traffic (which is the same for 50+ years) sucks and both city & university incapable/unwilling (or?) to fix it. $450+. And, yes, hotter than hades, with no tailgate to resort to. Great win, but the experience wasn't pretty. Well, pretty embarrassing IMO on the university's part ... have a good team on the field and chaos from start to finish. I don't want to think what three times the attendance will look like!
Love the direction fb is going, but was one of the worst fan/ticket/parking experiences I've seen (and I've seen a lot of Universities/arenas).
Oh, you "don't have to get off my lawn."
I can’t believe we’re having this conversation again.
Let’s look at some other top team OOCs:
Georgia: Clemson, Tennessee Tech, UMASS, Georgia Tech
Bama: Western Kentucky, South Florida, Wisconsin, Mercer
Texas: Colorado St, Michigan, UTSA, UL-Monroe
Ole Miss: Furman, Middle TN, Wake Forest, GA Southern
Miami: Florida, Florida A&M, Ball St, South Florida
Ohio State: Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall
The other conferences play 8 game slates, so one of those OOCs can be considered equivalent to an added B1G game we play.
Look at the top teams’ schedules. They aren’t scheduling a murderers row on top of their conference slates. Why would we?
There are three levels of OOC scheduling.
Wins= FCS and low tier FBS
Challenge= decent teams, still expect wins but not blowouts. Mediocre G5 teams or low P4 teams
Marquee= top contests vs top teams.
1) 3 “wins”
2) 2 “wins” and 1 “challenge” game
3) 1 “win,” 1 “challenge,” 1 “marquee”
IU is at stage 1. We have trips to UCONN and UVA coming up over the next couple seasons. Thats level 2. We have ND on the schedule a few years after that That’s level 3. We’ll get there. Scheduling like we’re a MAC school getting its “money games” in is silly.
Let’s look at some other top team OOCs:
Georgia: Clemson, Tennessee Tech, UMASS, Georgia Tech
Bama: Western Kentucky, South Florida, Wisconsin, Mercer
Texas: Colorado St, Michigan, UTSA, UL-Monroe
Ole Miss: Furman, Middle TN, Wake Forest, GA Southern
Miami: Florida, Florida A&M, Ball St, South Florida
Ohio State: Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall
The other conferences play 8 game slates, so one of those OOCs can be considered equivalent to an added B1G game we play.
Look at the top teams’ schedules. They aren’t scheduling a murderers row on top of their conference slates. Why would we?
There are three levels of OOC scheduling.
Wins= FCS and low tier FBS
Challenge= decent teams, still expect wins but not blowouts. Mediocre G5 teams or low P4 teams
Marquee= top contests vs top teams.
1) 3 “wins”
2) 2 “wins” and 1 “challenge” game
3) 1 “win,” 1 “challenge,” 1 “marquee”
IU is at stage 1. We have trips to UCONN and UVA coming up over the next couple seasons. Thats level 2. We have ND on the schedule a few years after that That’s level 3. We’ll get there. Scheduling like we’re a MAC school getting its “money games” in is silly.
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