Atlantic just released all the texts this a.m. and it is not good

[Ohio Guy]

aoc is the leader of the dems. most polls have her as the voice of the party. she controls the narrative. she is the dem party.
maga is the right. i think we need to come to terms with the way teh system is set up we'll be choosing between the fringes for some time. hell walz today was just saying they didn't lean into dei and immigration enough. they need to be more woke

I had to drive to/from DC the last few days and listened to an interview with Andy Beshear. I really liked what I heard from him. I don't think AOC has any real chance at being a Democratic nominee for president. I suppose she could muck things up and run as an Independent, but I'm sort of hopeful that by 2028 the Democrats will have things figured out.

I'm also hopeful that without Trump MAGA will go the way of the Tea Party. I don't know who could step up and lead that wing of GOP.

In some ways, I'm sort of hopeful we're headed toward a post vitriolic political climate. I'm not putting money on that just yet, but a good start to that would be for Democrats to put forth a more moderate Democratic candidate who beats the anointed MAGA guy in '28 by a landslide. I think that could happen.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Do I have a penchant for neocons?

Well. Your opinions in here have not evidenced as much.

Your infatuation with Ferguson and Bari Weiss says otherwise.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Answer the question, what would you do under Biden if the texts to a civilian had happened. I commend you for not lying because you know the answer will label you a partison POS.

Dayum!
Class is cancelled indefinitely due to a Martian attack. You have poked the bear (let's make it a bear from Mars to avoid metaphor mixing), and campus is closed for an early spring break.
See the bursar on your way out.

 

[Bligedy]

Perhaps. No different than a Teams or slack chat at work. Point being these people are in the fly. They need to be able to communicate via cell.

Maybe the government can build a new app.

The obvious difference is the nature of the content. The job isn't speed or convenience.

Not to mention, there's a reason why China is able to steal so much and so often from Silicon Valley. They not stuffing file folders down their pants and walking out of the building.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

The obvious difference is the nature of the content. The job isn't speed or convenience.

Not to mention, there's a reason why China is able to steal so much and so often from Silicon Valley. They not stuffing file folders down their pants and walking out of the building.

No society has ever become a global hegemon off of stealing IP.

We can try and put a wall up around our software innovation as much as we like. Innovation still requires openness.

We tried to put a wall up around developing the atom bomb as well. A few years later, what do you know?

Time doesn’t stand still for the innovators.

The only real answer is to keep innovating and keep the other a few steps behind.

 

[DANC]

Here’s why I can’t agree with you on your argument and demands that people be fired.

The Houthis have been attacking commercial shipping in the Red Sea for years. Biden played defense and successfully thwarted the Houthis having any success against our Navy.

Now the Houthis are toast.

They are toast because our service people took out leadership, air defense assets, offensive assets, and these attacks have been going on for days without any reporting. . Yeah, bad shit could have happened with the Signal screw up but it didn’t. The people you want to shitcan are the same people responsible for these success. Biden shows us that if you don’t do anything, nothing good or bad will ever happen. . We know that when you do do something good things happen despite foul ups that turn out to be harmless errors.

As I write this B2’s, air tankers, and ammo and supply ships are at or headed to Diego Garcia. One carrier battle group has had the deployment extended and a second one is on the way to the Middle East. Something big is going on, or Trump is trying to intimidate Iran. The point is, except for these asset movements that can’t be hidden, nobody knows what is going on. Now is not the time to fire the group in charge.

It's just his way of bashing Trump, no matter what happens. If this had been under Biden, he'd have posted something like 'Austin should take responsibility' or some innocuous statement. Then, when anyone notes that he didn't insist on Austin resigning, he can go back and say 'I said they shoudl take responsibility'.

He always insists on punishing Trump/Republicans for the slightest error or f-up. With Democrats, he either doesnt comment or issues some milquetoast comment. Either way, he doesn't harp on it, like he does with Trump/Republicans.

He follows the same pattern time after time and it's obvious his reasons.

 

[DANC]

Just ask yourself. If this was done by a democratic administration you feel exactly the same way? We all know that’s not true. See Clinton email outrage by Hegseth, Rubio, Waltz and definitely the Dancing Orange Orangutan.

And what happened to Clinton?

 

[DANC]

What if an American airman was killed? Harmless error. Amazing the excuses you followers of the dancing Orange Orangutan will use for a national security breach as well as violations of multiple laws. Good lord the DOD sent out a warning against using the Signal Chat the week before.
I saw interviews with current and former F18 pilots who said this was absolutely unconscionable. Any service member who had done this would have immediately been prosecuted and court martialed.

What if 13 servicepeople were killed and many other seriously wounded at Abbey Gate?

Oh, that's right. They were. Nothing happened - no one resigned.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

It's just his way of bashing Trump, no matter what happens. If this had been under Biden, he'd have posted something like 'Austin should take responsibility' or some innocuous statement. Then, when anyone notes that he didn't insist on Austin resigning, he can go back and say 'I said they shoudl take responsibility'.

He always insists on punishing Trump/Republicans for the slights error or f-up. With Democrats, he either doesnt comment or issues some milquetoast comment. Either way, he doesn't harp on it, like he does with Trump/Republicans.

He follows the same pattern time after time and it's obvious his reasons.

For me, I said early on no one would be fired. But taking them over to Memorial Stadium and running stair laps until they puke isn't out of the realm of suitable punishments. At least it would be if an offensive linemen texted our gameplan to someone not authorized to have it. And assuming they were good enough we weren't going to just dismiss them.

Trump should have called them in, read them the riot act, told everyone to report that the windows were shaking from his yelling, and we'd be pretty much done with it. This wasn't a heat of combat thing, these people were all well away from anything. It was an unforced error. The continued, "nothing was compromised, we don't know how he got into the thread, etc" just keeps it a story.

Run their stair laps and be done.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

And what happened to Clinton?

She lost an election...

 

[DANC]

well, stop being hypocrites based on what party did it and people would stop pointing it out.

That's a kid that constantly acts out complaining that they always get in trouble

Just following your reaction after Abbey Gate and 4 years of the Biden Crime Family getting rich off his Presidency.

 

[DANC]

For me, I said early on no one would be fired. But taking them over to Memorial Stadium and running stair laps until they puke isn't out of the realm of suitable punishments. At least it would be if an offensive linemen texted our gameplan to someone not authorized to have it. And assuming they were good enough we weren't going to just dismiss them.

Trump should have called them in, read them the riot act, told everyone to report that the windows were shaking from his yelling, and we'd be pretty much done with it. This wasn't a heat of combat thing, these people were all well away from anything. It was an unforced error. The continued, "nothing was compromised, we don't know how he got into the thread, etc" just keeps it a story.

Run their stair laps and be done.

Agreed and I don't lump you in with Aloha or any of the other hypocrites.

Although you do have your moments. lol

 

[DANC]

She lost an election...

OK, so we will have another election in 2028.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

Just following your reaction after Abbey Gate and 4 years of the Biden Crime Family getting rich off his Presidency.

Maybe because I don't follow your fake news.

Where was your outrage over the Trump crime family getting richer off his presidency?

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Link to article?

He doesn't need any stinking backup - he is an authority on everything. What he doesn't know is a lot of what the thinks he knows. These guys travel with secure communications capability. It's slightly more inconvenient than their government phones and a lot more inconvenient than personal phones which it appears some or all were using. However, it can be done. Reality is that their discussion was OK (minus the record keeping requirement) initially. It crossed the line to unauthorized when Hegseth injected classified strike mission information. Then it was off the rails. That was secure communications only stuff.

 

[DANC]

Maybe because I don't follow your fake news.

Where was your outrage over the Trump crime family getting richer off his presidency?

Oh, that's right. You'd never heard of Abbey Gate before I educated you. You can't act like you don't know about it now.

The Trump kids made money during his Presidency with legitimate business deals that were well publicized. There as no denials of meetings or 'loan' payments to his family where there were no recoreds of loans.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Although you do have your moments. lol

Don't we all.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

Oh, that's right. You'd never heard of Abbey Gate before I educated you. You can't act like you don't know about it now.

The Trump kids made money during his Presidency with legitimate business deals that were well publicized. There as no denials of meetings or 'loan' payments to his family where there were no recoreds of loans.

Legitimate business deals my ass

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

It's just his way of bashing Trump, no matter what happens. If this had been under Biden, he'd have posted something like 'Austin should take responsibility' or some innocuous statement. Then, when anyone notes that he didn't insist on Austin resigning, he can go back and say 'I said they shoudl take responsibility'.

He always insists on punishing Trump/Republicans for the slights error or f-up. With Democrats, he either doesnt comment or issues some milquetoast comment. Either way, he doesn't harp on it, like he does with Trump/Republicans.

He follows the same pattern time after time and it's obvious his reasons.

Everything you said there is wrong. Every word. How can I read BS like that and not call you a lying hypocrite? I'm consistent on this always. Change Hegseth to Austin and Waltz to whoever the NSA was for Biden and I'd be calling for their resignations and recommending the President firing them. No change for me at all. I guarantee it's a change for you because you're not consistent at all. It's all about Trump for you. In fact, what you posted absolutely matches you. Just Change Trump to Biden and Republicans to Democrats and it's you 100 percent.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Legitimate business deals my ass

No pardons needed. Only the Biden crime family

 

[DANC]

So you want to play that game do you. Well how about the 4,419 American soldiers killed in the Iraq war. Which btw was started on Republican lies about WMD. I voted for W and can admit that my former party made a terrible decision that cost the lives of thousands of Americans. The best you have are your insults. But that is familiar territory for you MAGA cultists.

Want to go back and see who was President during WWI and WWII?

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

OK, so we will have another election in 2028.

I sure hope so.

 

[DANC]

Everything you said there is wrong. Every word. How can I read BS like that and not call you a lying hypocrite? I'm consistent on this always. You're not - what you posted absolutely matches you. Just Change Trump to Biden and Republicans to Democrats and it's you 100 percent.

Everyone here knows every word I posted was true. They know you and how you are.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

It's just his way of bashing Trump, no matter what happens. If this had been under Biden, he'd have posted something like 'Austin should take responsibility' or some innocuous statement. Then, when anyone notes that he didn't insist on Austin resigning, he can go back and say 'I said they shoudl take responsibility'.

He always insists on punishing Trump/Republicans for the slightest error or f-up. With Democrats, he either doesnt comment or issues some milquetoast comment. Either way, he doesn't harp on it, like he does with Trump/Republicans.

He follows the same pattern time after time and it's obvious his reasons.

VICTIMHOOD!!!

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Agreed and I don't lump you in with Aloha or any of the other hypocrites.

Although you do have your moments. lol

Other hypocrites! I guess civility is over. FAFO.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Everyone here knows every word I posted was true. They know you and how you are.

Classic projection.

 

[DANC]

Legitimate business deals my ass

How were the not legitimate?

 

[DANC]

Classic projection.

Classic Aloha

 

[Bowlmania]

Everyone here knows every word I posted was true. They know you and how you are.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Answer the question, what would you do under Biden if the texts to a civilian had happened. I commend you for not lying because you know the answer will label you a partison POS.

I admit to being partisan. Quit suggesting that there is something wrong with that. I advocate for and support my opinions. Funny you don’t bring partisanship up when I say I’m pro gun control pro choice and anti-tort immunity.

I have no control over whether you think I’m a piece of shit.


As far as Biden is concerned he was the worst president ever. This mistake wouldn’t have happened on his watch because he never did anything that spies would want to know about. He was the only person who opposed the Bin Laden op.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

I’m pro gun control pro choice and anti-tort immunity.

Pro gun control? I have seen you argue to remove immunity, I haven't seen the arguments to pass control. In fact it seems you usually blame Ds for pursuing control and not the immunity, blaming them for incidents over the people who argue against both (Republicans).

The problem with partisanship is a house divided against itself cannot stand. Some genuis said that when you were a young lawyer. We keep driving the two sides further and further apart. It suits the partisans to do that, the fanatics. Every hill is a hill to die on.

We need to find our commonality and work on that. But that isn't what attracts the fanatics. So we are stuck with people putting on red or blue jerseys and dying on every hill to keep us apart.

Finding real waste and fraud was a great opportunity. Making things up, and now making it very hard to sign up for things like Social Security, isn't that. Diverting those food trucks wasn't that (hint, the food was already purchased).

Biden wasn't a very good president. I have no personal loyalty to anyone in the Democratic Party. Hell, until the GOP jumped the shark and went full on Birch I long argued the Democratic Party was the worst organization in America. Now the Republicans said "hold my beer" by dumping on their own head.

So we are stuck with an incompetent blue team and a red team that just wants to destroy everything regardless of whether it helps or hurts a damn thing. The goal is Götterdämmerung, burn it down, we don't give a damn.

 

[outside shooter]

...these people are in the fly. They need to be able to communicate via cell.

Maybe the government can build a new app.

My understanding is that secure government apps already exist and have been developed at great expense.

But those apps do not auto-destruct the texts, since doing so is clearly illegal.

Acting in a legal and secure manner, though, is not aligned with the priorities of this administration

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

My understanding is that secure government apps already exist and have been developed at great expense.

But those apps do not auto-destruct the texts, since doing so is clearly illegal.

Acting in a legal and secure manner, though, is not aligned with the priorities of this administration

Maybe they’ve been developed recently. H.R. McMaster contended there was no easy way for informal comms with sensitive info.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Maybe they’ve been developed recently. H.R. McMaster contended there was no easy way for informal comms with sensitive info.

They’ve been around for years and I’ve used them. H.R. McMaster has blasted Waltz, Hegseth and gang for this Signal fiasco specifically stating that kind of information is very sensitive and classified and had to be discussed over secure channels which they all had access to. Whatever you heard you likely misunderstood it because you know zilch about this stuff.

 

[hookyIU1990]

 

[Cortez88]

Harmless this time. It’s indefensible.

Sure I was drunk as hell and driving on the wrong side of the highway at night, but I got the kids home and in bed by 10:00pm so it’s fine. That’s what he’s saying right?

 

[UncleMark]

I have no control over whether you think I’m a piece of shit.

Maybe try not being a piece of shit.

 

[UncleMark]

Sure I was drunk as hell and driving on the wrong side of the highway at night, but I got the kids home and in bed by 10:00pm so it’s fine. That’s what he’s saying right?

I was going to post something similar. It's like B1G bball officiating -- no blood, no foul, as long as it's your team doing the fouling.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/28/politics/waltz-ratcliffe-concerns-houthi-intelligence/index.html

SignalGate Isn’t About Signal

The Trump cabinet’s shocking leak of its plans to bomb Yemen raises myriad confidentiality and legal issues. The security of the encrypted messaging app Signal is not one of them.

www.wired.com

'A bad signal': Trump team's shifting SignalGate explanation

How did The Alantic magazine's editor wind up in a group chat where officials discussed imminent airstrikes? The Trump team's explanations clash.

www.usatoday.com

 

[LedZep17]

Intersting how amateur-hour in the WH and Pentagon with this joke of an Admin and its appointments rolls downhill with the MAGA cucks. They all fall in line thinking they are helping the gaslight mission, and this is how Dear Leader News addresses it.