Validating that you are reading their text/email chain is stupid. Blue light special, have an active target in sight is all that accomplishes.
Atlantic just released all the texts this a.m. and it is not good
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I used to represent a Trump. Own apartment projects in several locations around the state and acted as his own general contractor on all of them. The only difference was the client liked his booze. He’d send me all over on his business because I was the only lawyer he trusted. (Ha). The very first cell phone I ever saw in use was his. Made and spent tons on money. Never took crap. Would litigate anything. Great client!
This reporting....at a minimum, will get national security leaders off of personal phones and the use of third party apps when discussing classified material. Something that most assuredly would not have happened without this reporting. This is a journalist doing their job and holding govt officials accountable.
There is zero unethical or immoral action done by this reporter.
Good grief.
This is rich coming from a Trump apologist.
Those are the low key freaks. Been around the block and knows what she's doing.
You're missing out.
Interesting article on the ethics of a journalist:
You're a journalist added to a classified group chat. Here’s what you need to consider. - Poynter
5 ethical questions journalists should consider if, like The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, they are added to a top-secret conversation about war plans.
www.poynter.org
Michael Waltz’s Venmo Is Public, and It’s Full of Journalists
The figure who tagged a journalist into a Signal chat about the attack on Yemen also failed to set his Venmo to private, revealing his willingness to engage with reporters of all political stripes.
prospect.org
Guess we are just different. I don't eavesdrop. I don't read an open diary.
And I stated he could have written a story about the incident and how sloppy Waltz was. But he decided to stay on there, knowing he didn't belong. And don't tell me he didn't know. That's BS. He knew or sensed it could be legit.
Did you read the article and the timeline?
Most of the right complain about reporters using anonymous sources in govt. How would a report as crazy as this have been received, without proof?
"Well I received a signal request from a 'Mike Waltz'.... Shit my pants and immediately deleted thread"
that's why i'm curious about how this went down. opening your phone and seeing this entire chain already completed is different htan logging on and eavesdropping as it's taking place and electing not to say "hey i'm not an intended audience here." the former is fine the latter is wrong
Goldberg could have behind the scenes discussed what happened and privately conveyed his complaints in hope the perpetrators would have learned a lesson.
Or he could make the mistake public in hopes the perpetrators would learn from their mistakes.
The mistake in my view being not to communicate via a method as dictated by highly classified protocol to only persons with the proper security clearances.
Let us face it, political appointees often have a lot to learn and should seek advice from professional and experienced department personnel (I.e., bureaucrats
)
There is no way to know this because the journalism profession has no established universal rules of ethics. This is complicated by the fact that anybody with a smart phone and an internet connection can claim to be a journalist.
In various opinions the Supreme Court has held people have a constitutional right to lie, to make up quotes, and to make up other material about a public person or a matter of public interest—unless the journalist is motivated by malice. The malice test is becoming increasingly troublesome.
Not at all surprising but this confirms there’s no chance any charges are brought for this.
With Bondi, Patel and Martin in charge of federal investigations and prosecutions in DC, top Trump officials have de facto immunity for job-related activities. Another “first” for this administration.
apnews.com
With Bondi, Patel and Martin in charge of federal investigations and prosecutions in DC, top Trump officials have de facto immunity for job-related activities. Another “first” for this administration.
Bondi signals probe into Signal chat is unlikely, despite a long history of similar inquiries
FBI Director Kash Patel may not have been part of a Signal chat in which other Trump administration national security officials discussed detailed attack plans.
apnews.com
He's Dick Cheney's buddy and a saboteur. He likely gets fired eventually.
Michael Waltz’s Venmo Is Public, and It’s Full of Journalists
The figure who tagged a journalist into a Signal chat about the attack on Yemen also failed to set his Venmo to private, revealing his willingness to engage with reporters of all political stripes.
Decades ago I had a very interesting discussion with the publisher of our local paper about journalists and ethics. We were discussing business ethics in general and I suggested her profession would be improved if journalists were subject to an enforceable code of ethics like lawyers had. She responded that journalists are protected by the first amendment and ethics codes would impinge on that. I responded by noting that right to counsel and jury trials are also mentioned in the constitution and enforceable ethics codes don’t impinge on us. We traded comments about the point for a while then she moved on to a different paper.Interesting article on the ethics of a journalist:
You're a journalist added to a classified group chat. Here’s what you need to consider. - Poynter
5 ethical questions journalists should consider if, like The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, they are added to a top-secret conversation about war plans.
You must get whiplash changing your opinions to match the changing opinions of your Twitter Twits.
OK, so he obviously knows the dude, and probably had his number in his contacts.
Waltz needs to come clean on who me was intending to invite when he added "JG".
If they were chummy, I doubt Goldberg would blow up his source like he has.
Who wasn't on the chat, that was supposed to be instead of Goldberg? Should be pretty easy to pin down.
Pete injected classified strike mission information. He and everyone in the administration that says it wasn’t is a liar. Just about everyone in DoD knows their boss is a liar. This has to be strike one and two if not strike three. It’ll be tough for anyone to trust him after this.
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We’ll get to the bottom of this. You ain’t gotta worry about that. Hammering NPR at the moment.
I don’t remember the name but they named another guy with this initials at the national security council that he probably meant to invite. President Trump fired the DoD IG for reasons that remain undisclosed but the IG is a big office so they can investigate this if permitted.
The conversation is marked to disappear in 4 weeks. They know that this isn't how they should be discussing it.
It makes you wonder how much other stuff could be out there. I bet it's a lot.
Yes. And unless the messages were otherwise retained, that’s a clear violation of the Records Act.
Fire his ass.
And for the record Aloha, everyone I trust on X the people who have been right about everything (the people you call crazy but who are almost always right), said right away that Waltz was a deep state scumbag and was only put in the administration to commit sabotage. I've also been consistent for years that Trump's biggest weakness, his only big one really, is the people who he hires.
I expect Waltz to be canned as soon as the investigation is complete. It's completely fair to criticize the appointment of Waltz.
Do lawyers have a constitutional right to lie also? In terms of any code of ethics that they are beholden to, when are they allowed to lie and when not?
That’s the problem. The worst mistake is the one we don’t learn from and keep repeating. Trump keeps hiring himself.
You teed that one up, dbm… 🙋♂️
Your Twitter Twits are wrong 95 percent of the time and I’m being generous. They’re morons and liars.
Like that teacher in Martinsville.
Perhaps one of the 18 high-level government officials should have said something like “hey, maybe we shouldn’t be having this discussion on a commercial messaging app” when the classified information started flying.
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